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 by: Oleg Smirnov - Mon, 11 Dec 2023 08:30 UTC

> The swampy riparian zone of the left bank of Dnepr is difficult
> to keep under complete control, but it also is not a place from
> where it's possible to develop a powerful offensive. The purpose
> why Zelensky sends soldiers there is to produce some news-media
> effect. Artillery and drones kill these poor obedient ones - who
> "didn't get into strategy" - in large numbers, and then Zelensky
> sends more manpower there, and when most of them have been
> killed, he sends even more soldiers there and so on, so on.
> It's ugly, but this way the regime could report that the troops
> "hold the bridgehead" (so they must be winning soon).

Some pro-regime outlets ("we're fed up!") begin to confirm.

<https://tinyurl.com/yqbtwz76> dumskaya.net

... Cлучай особый, и мы уже не можем молчать. Левый берег Днепра ..
Как это происходит? Матросы переправляются через реку на подручных
средствах, и большинство убивают еще на подходе к берегу. Тех, кто
выжил и переправился, утюжат всем, что есть в арсенале Великой
России. Оттуда не вывозят раненых. Людей просто постоянно бросают
за реку - волну за волной. Ни о каком прорыве дальше и речи не
идет, сейчас силы и средства растрачиваются просто на то, чтобы
оставаться там. Ради чего? .. Нас наверняка обвинят .., но молчать
более не можем .. Необходимо срочно сворачивать эту операцию ..

... This is a special case, and we can no longer remain silent.
Left bank of Dnepr .. How it happens? The soldiers cross the
river using improvised means, and most of them are killed just
as they approach the shore. Those who survived and crossed over
will be ironed with everything that is in the arsenal of Russia.
Wounded ones aren't taken out from there. Men are just constantly
being thrown across the river - wave after wave. There's no aim
of any further breakthrough; now forces and resources are being
wasted simply on staying there. For what? .. We will probably be
accused .. but we can no longer remain silent .. It is urgent to
curtail this operation ..

>> <https://tinyurl.com/yr638zjg> pravda.com.ua
>>
>> Zelensky communicates with commanders bypassing Zaluzhny ..

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 by: Iakov Senatov - Mon, 11 Dec 2023 11:44 UTC

On 11.12.2023 11:30, Oleg Smirnov wrote:

> .. Cлучай особый, и мы уже не можем молчать. Левый берег Днепра ..
> Как это происходит? Матросы переправляются через реку на подручных
> средствах, и большинство убивают еще на подходе к берегу. Тех, кто
> выжил и переправился, утюжат всем, что есть в арсенале Великой
> России. Оттуда не вывозят раненых. Людей просто постоянно бросают
> за реку - волну за волной. Ни о каком прорыве дальше и речи не
> идет, сейчас силы и средства растрачиваются просто на то, чтобы
> оставаться там. Ради чего? .. Нас наверняка обвинят .., но молчать
> более не можем .. Необходимо срочно сворачивать эту операцию ..

Идёт подготовка к полной оккупации и изгнанию населения из букраины,
но это будет нескоро. И в генштабе цинично решили истребить наиболее
активных, политизированных и вообще упоротых там, где их удобнее всего
подвести
под уничтожение квадратно гнездовым методом - на фронте. Чтобы потом не
ловить их по одному в тылу.

Опять же, осваиваются бюджеты, капает фронтовое жалование, льготный
фронтовой стаж, разворачивается и дальше военное и прочее производство.

Все при деле, все довольны, поэтому война на реке и игры в "плацдарм"
и тот же "полукотлы" будут оставаться неизменными и незакрытыми, над
Крынками и Работино будут раз в месяц снова торжественно вешать
укрофлаг... пока хахлам эта игра не надоест.
Русским она не надоест никогда.
--
Благословлѧю на ​добрыꙗ​ дѣла. Вашь Іаковъ.

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 by: Oleg Smirnov - Wed, 13 Dec 2023 17:55 UTC

<http://tinyurl.com/58dhjwvv> businessinsider.com

Unrealistic US expectations helped doom Ukraine's counteroffensive
to fail .. The US underestimated Russia's defenses and had unrealistic
expectations, the report said ..

....

F*ck!

"NATO training" is a joke.

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 by: Oleg Smirnov - Sat, 16 Dec 2023 13:38 UTC

<https://archive.is/3qGbg> bild.de

... Ukraine's new war plan ..
Now Ukraine is reorienting its defenses and adopting a new, surprising
strategy .. "What we are experiencing is basically a controlled
rearguard action. You build a minefield and watch as many Russians as
possible die in it and their tanks are destroyed. And when they make it
through there, you retreat a kilometer and let the Russians drive into
the next minefield that has been set up in the meantime." ..

....

The above description is exactly what things looked like to the regime's
troops when they sought to implement the summer "counter-offensive" (and
managed to advance few kms near Robotino <https://tinyurl.com/7p8zyk4z>).

Now, after they had experienced this approach applied to them by Russian
military, the silly German outlet presents this "surprising strategy" as
a brillliant invention of the regime's own military thought.

The meditation on "killing as many Russians as possible" is also notable.

The western post-"Protestant morals" are essentially close to paganism.

> <http://tinyurl.com/58dhjwvv> businessinsider.com
>
> Unrealistic US expectations helped doom Ukraine's counteroffensive ..

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 by: Oleg Smirnov - Sat, 16 Dec 2023 13:43 UTC

>> The swampy riparian zone of the left bank of Dnepr is difficult
>> to keep under complete control, but it also is not a place from
>> where it's possible to develop a powerful offensive. The purpose
>> why Zelensky sends soldiers there is to produce some news-media
>> effect. Artillery and drones kill these poor obedient ones - who
>> "didn't get into strategy" - in large numbers, and then Zelensky
>> sends more manpower there, and when most of them have been
>> killed, he sends even more soldiers there and so on, so on.
>> It's ugly, but this way the regime could report that the troops
>> "hold the bridgehead" (so they must be winning soon).
<https://archive.is/HMtjP> nytimes.com

Fresh troops arriving on the east bank have to step on soldiers'
bodies that lie tangled in the churned mud .. Some of the dead marines
have been lying there for as long as two months ..

Since the war's outset, Ukrainian officials have sought to maintain a
positive narrative .. Zelensky of Ukraine and other .. have suggested
recently that the marines have gained a foothold .. The "Ministry of
Foreign Affairs" of the regime posted a statement .. But marines and
soldiers who have been there say .. "There are no positions .. It is
impossible to gain a foothold there. It's impossible to move equipment
there." ..

....

The purpose maniac Zelensky sends men to replenish the load of dead
bodies lying in the mud is to make a pretext to claim that "the
counteroffensive is in progress, give me more money and more weapons".

> Some pro-regime outlets ("we're fed up!") begin to confirm.
>
> <https://tinyurl.com/yqbtwz76>

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 by: Oleg Smirnov - Sat, 16 Dec 2023 18:03 UTC

<https://archive.is/9pWYy> nytimes.com

'People Snatchers' .. Wrongful draft notices, unprofessional medical
commissions .. With Kiev regime's military facing mounting deaths ..
army recruiters have become increasingly aggressive in their efforts
to replenish the ranks, in some cases pulling men off the streets and
whisking them to recruiting centers .. Recruiters have confiscated
passports, taken people from their jobs and send mentally disabled to
military training .. Videos of soldiers shoving people into cars and
holding men against their will in recruiting centers are surfacing
with increasing frequency on social media ..

....

The fact the regime treats draftees like cattle was known already
for months. Why deceitful NYT reports it now, likely, because it's
no longer possible to conceal it. And the east bank bloody mess too.

Given that in Russia anything similar can not be seen (and the exit
abroad keeps open), someone with IQ > 80 can decide for themselves
which of the military commands would spend soliers' lives easier.

> <https://archive.is/HMtjP> nytimes.com
>
> Fresh troops arriving on the east bank have to step on soldiers'
> bodies that lie tangled in the churned mud .. Some of the dead
> marines have been lying there for as long as two months ..

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 by: Oleg Smirnov - Tue, 19 Dec 2023 13:45 UTC

<https://tinyurl.com/23kdfc9t> europapress.es

Russian Defense Minister, Sergei Shoigu, has estimated the number of
mercenaries who have fallen fighting on the side of the Kiev regime in
this war .. at nearly 6,000, the majority of them being Polish.

"More than 1,400 mercenaries from Poland who fought in the ranks of the
regime's troops have been eliminated in the special military operation"
... Shoigu has also said that about 470 of these killed mercenaries have
American nationality, while about 350 are British .. Estimated the
casualties among the regular Kiev troops at 383,000, counting dead and
wounded .. "NATO military personnel directly control air defense
systems, operational tactical missiles and multiple launch rocket
systems. "When we prepare attacks with these means, we record American,
Polish and British speeches in radio interceptions," he said.

> <https://archive.is/WRnbs>
>
> .. Tensions at the top, exhaustion .. frustration ..

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 by: Oleg Smirnov - Thu, 21 Dec 2023 13:18 UTC

<http://tinyurl.com/4ert3y7p> globalvillagespace.com

The Kiev regime must copy 1944 Nazi Germany ..

The regime needs to look at what Germany did in WWII to stand a
chance against Russia, according to Ben Hodges, former commander
of US Army forces stationed in Europe .. In an interview with the
Australian YouTuber Perun <https://youtu.be/n9CBdzpZEmw?t=3397>,
published over the weekend, he repeatedly cited examples from the
Second World War .. "I mean, think about what Germany did in 1944
... Hodges did not help his case by arguing that the regime needs
to "improve their recruiting system to maximize available
manpower," including mobilizing "too many military-aged males and
women walking around in Ukraine that should be in the military"
as well as thousands of men who fled to the EU as refugees ..

....

This once again shows the fact that the Atlanticists consider the
Ukraine's population a kind of 'low race', some cheap expendable,
which isn't a shame to waste just to do some troubles for Russia.
Silly Ukrainians should feel proud. It may get funnier when in
Europe they start catching those citizens of the Ukraine who were
smarter and lucky to escape from the regime-controlled territory,
in order to send them to utilization. Rustem Umerov, "minister of
defence" of the regime, yesterday promised so. Although, Umerov's
own children are citizens of the US, have nothing to fear.

> <https://archive.is/WRnbs>
>
> .. Unmistakable sense of gloom in Kiev ..

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 by: Oleg Smirnov - Fri, 22 Dec 2023 03:31 UTC

The Kiev regime reportedly has no soldiers left who are willing to
train to operate Leopard 2 tanks in Germany .. [The] training centres
in Germany are running at half the capacity .. Ukrainians are in
shock after Volodymyr Zelensky's announcement to mobilise almost half
the population for war .. <https://tinyurl.com/yl2y3zkw>

> <https://archive.is/9pWYy>
>
> .. Videos of soldiers shoving people into cars ..

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 by: Oleg Smirnov - Wed, 3 Jan 2024 17:01 UTC

Число oкраинцев, которые доверяют <Единым новостям>
резко сократилось с 69% в мае 2022 года до 43% в прошлом
месяце .. <https://t.me/rusbrief/188303>

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 by: Oleg Smirnov - Tue, 9 Jan 2024 12:29 UTC

Зеленский <политически уже умер>, заявил нардеп от фракции <Голос>
Роман Костенко .. Он должен понять, что политически он уже умер. И
сейчас он должен принимать не такие решения, которые ему будут давать
возможность переизбраться на следующих выборах или которые будут
поддерживать его рейтинги .. <https://t.me/stranaua/139167>

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 by: Iakov Senatov - Tue, 9 Jan 2024 12:33 UTC

On 1/9/2024 1:29 PM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
> Зеленский <политически уже умер>, заявил нардеп от фракции <Голос>
> Роман Костенко .. Он должен понять, что политически он уже умер. И

Но навсегда останется в сердцах Евреев и прогрессивного человечества,
как первый Еврей в истории, отомстивший за Голокост ужасными смертями
сотен тысяч укронациков.

Вот это отомстил, так отомстил. Любо!

--
Благословлѧю на ​добрыꙗ​ дѣла. Вашь Іаковъ.

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 by: Oleg Smirnov - Wed, 10 Jan 2024 21:15 UTC

| <https://archive.is/q6bbZ> thetimes.co.uk
|
| Johnson denies Kremlin claim that he sabotaged Ukraine peace deal
|
| Moscow's allegations were prompted by comments made by David
| Arakhamia, who was regime's lead negotiator at talks ..
| Arakhamia also said that after the talks Johnson advised the Kiev
| regime leadership that it should "not sign anything with [Russia] at
| all, and let's just fight". Russian officials have cited Arakhamia's
| interview as evidence that Ukraine is controlled by western
| "puppetmasters". Johnson has now responded to Moscow's claims ..

The Russian officials / media simply retold what Arakhamia had said.

The inbred can claim whatever he likes. The fact is that after those
Arakhamia's revelations, there is a consensus even among the regime
supporters in Kiev that it was namely Boris who ordered the regime
leadership to sabotage the deal. Now this island belated whining on
"Russian propaganda" won't change anything.

> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30rmYPb7SaY> India news
>
> Ukraine exposes West .. Zelensky Aide's Bombshell Admission ..

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 by: Oleg Smirnov - Thu, 11 Jan 2024 21:10 UTC

<https://archive.is/GyL2i> foxnews.com

... Biden's escalation management approach - i.e. restricting the
quantity and type of weaponry supplied to the Kiev Nazi regime to
fight the Russians - while having resulted in the destruction of
Ukraine, has, so far, steered Russian President Vladimir Putin
clear of targeting Europe with nuclear weapons or bringing war to
the U.S. homeland .. Russia is capable of destroying the United
States ..

....

"Destruction of Ukraine" is good.

Американские правые рассказывают ***украм об их предназначении.

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 by: Oleg Smirnov - Thu, 11 Jan 2024 21:13 UTC

<https://tinyurl.com/yqnftbx9> invesloan.com

Practically today Ukraine is a concentration camp that is moving
towards Europe. No freedom of speech, no human rights, no freedom
of religion. Also, most of the male population is being destroyed.
So what is the future of the country? You and I discussed then, we
talked about the loss of territory, about the loss of population.
Today there are simply catastrophic processes taking place. This
is a pain that goes through millions of families. And who is to
blame for this? Biden, Nuland, Blinken, Demo-corruption, Zelensky,
Poroshenko and the rest of this organized criminal group ..

....


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