On 7/06/2023 10:11 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 7/06/2023 7:58 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 7/6/2023 6:06 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>
>>> The gasket is worth a bit over $100 (that's a ripoff for a start)
>>> there is a video on youtube on how to do it. I'd reckon that an
>>> experienced mechanic shouldn't take more than an hour, I might take
>>> an afternoon.
>>
>> Even if it took 3 hrs and the gasket cost $100 that still not even
>> close to $900.00
>
> More likely they just didn't want to do it and priced it to frighten
> Keith off. Of course, they would have happily done the job if he'd given
> the okay :)

No, I didn't ask them to do it, the car went in for a service, the front
office robot told me that there was some oil leaking through the rocker
box gasket, they would check it at the next service, and, if it was
still leaking, they could fix it for $900.

On 8/06/2023 7:46 am, Keithr0 wrote:
> On 7/06/2023 10:11 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 7/06/2023 7:58 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>> On 7/6/2023 6:06 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>>
>>>> The gasket is worth a bit over $100 (that's a ripoff for a start)
>>>> there is a video on youtube on how to do it. I'd reckon that an
>>>> experienced mechanic shouldn't take more than an hour, I might take
>>>> an afternoon.
>>>
>>> Even if it took 3 hrs and the gasket cost $100 that still not even
>>> close to $900.00
>>
>> More likely they just didn't want to do it and priced it to frighten
>> Keith off. Of course, they would have happily done the job if he'd
>> given the okay :)
>
> No, I didn't ask them to do it, the car went in for a service, the front
> office robot told me that there was some oil leaking through the rocker
> box gasket, they would check it at the next service, and, if it was
> still leaking, they could fix it for $900.

Nice cunts. Did they have a genuine look of surprise on their faces when
you told them to go fuck themselves?

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Noddy.

On 8/06/2023 9:51 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 8/06/2023 7:46 am, Keithr0 wrote:
>> On 7/06/2023 10:11 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>> On 7/06/2023 7:58 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>> On 7/6/2023 6:06 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>
>>>>> The gasket is worth a bit over $100 (that's a ripoff for a start)
>>>>> there is a video on youtube on how to do it. I'd reckon that an
>>>>> experienced mechanic shouldn't take more than an hour, I might take
>>>>> an afternoon.
>>>>
>>>> Even if it took 3 hrs and the gasket cost $100 that still not even
>>>> close to $900.00
>>>
>>> More likely they just didn't want to do it and priced it to frighten
>>> Keith off. Of course, they would have happily done the job if he'd
>>> given the okay :)
>>
>> No, I didn't ask them to do it, the car went in for a service, the
>> front office robot told me that there was some oil leaking through the
>> rocker box gasket, they would check it at the next service, and, if it
>> was still leaking, they could fix it for $900.
>
> Nice cunts. Did they have a genuine look of surprise on their faces when
> you told them to go fuck themselves?

I'm saving that up for the next visit :)

On 8/06/2023 9:54 am, Keithr0 wrote:
> On 8/06/2023 9:51 am, Noddy wrote:

>>> No, I didn't ask them to do it, the car went in for a service, the
>>> front office robot told me that there was some oil leaking through
>>> the rocker box gasket, they would check it at the next service, and,
>>> if it was still leaking, they could fix it for $900.
>>
>> Nice cunts. Did they have a genuine look of surprise on their faces
>> when you told them to go fuck themselves?
>
> I'm saving that up for the next visit :)

Sucks to be them :)

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Noddy.

On 8/6/2023 7:33 am, alvey wrote:
> On Wed, 07 Jun 2023 13:54:46 +1000, Noddy wrote:
>
>> On 7/06/2023 1:28 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>> On 7/6/2023 1:02 pm, lindsay wrote:
>>
>>>> Ouch. The ranger is a simple lift in lift out job. There's nothing
>>>> wrong with his battery, ford were just trying to con him. and $109 for
>>>> wiper blades.. available from ford for $50 a pair inc delivery.
>>>> Hahahahahahahaha
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> Could be worse, he could own a Subaru, their cars are very good but
>>> their dealers are arseholes who will try and screw you at every
>>> opportunity.
>>
>> Story of the dealership world in fact. There are exceptions of course,
>> but most of them make a very good living selling over priced shit to
>> people who don't need it.
>
> Fraudster can't let any post with "dealer" in it go by without chanting
> this mantra. It still really burns with the old shonk that none of them
> would employ him as a mechanic.
>
The only one who calls Darren a "mechanic" - is Darren. ;-)
>
>
> alvey

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Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 7/06/2023 9:43 am, Daryl wrote:
> On 6/6/2023 7:01 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 6/06/2023 4:36 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>>> We've been away for a few weeks, I was expecting the batteries on the
>>> cars to be a bit down, but the 6 year old Maz3 was D.E.D dead. I had
>>> to use the emergency key to unlock it, and absolutely nothing came
>>> on. Jumpering from #1 daughter's Toyota brought the dash lights on
>>> but no chance of starting. The RACQ man came round with his jumper
>>> box, that started the car, "Take it for a drive and it should be OK"
>>> he said. So I did, the car wasn't happy, there were several warning
>>> lights, and it only had one gear. On return from a 30 minute drive,
>>> the car wouldn't start again. So I took the battery to the local
>>> battery shop, he stuck it on his computer controlled charger and it
>>> seems OK now, although I don't have full confidence in it yet.
>>>
>>> OTOH the 32 year old MX-5 started first turn of the key.
>>
>> The parasitic voltage drain on modern cars is horrendous, and
>> especially if you don't "put them to sleep" like parking them in a
>> garage without locking them for example. Your MX-5's only load would
>> be it's clock, but the 3 would be something else entirely.
>>
>> If you're going to park it for extended periods, then it would be a
>> good idea to invest in a battery charger that has a good float mode.
>> Ctek make a range that work well.
>
> Agree, I have one that I connect to whatever car I'm not using much.

repco currently have 25% off some chargers, But this is well worth
looking into:
https://www.repco.com.au/globes-batteries-electrical/battery-chargers-power-accessories/battery-chargers/ctek-battery-charger-12v-5amp-mxs5-0/p/A9512219
Members price $95.00 cheap for ctek...

On 15/6/2023 11:02 am, lindsay wrote:
> On 7/06/2023 9:43 am, Daryl wrote:
>> On 6/6/2023 7:01 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>> On 6/06/2023 4:36 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>> We've been away for a few weeks, I was expecting the batteries on
>>>> the cars to be a bit down, but the 6 year old Maz3 was D.E.D dead. I
>>>> had to use the emergency key to unlock it, and absolutely nothing
>>>> came on. Jumpering from #1 daughter's Toyota brought the dash lights
>>>> on but no chance of starting. The RACQ man came round with his
>>>> jumper box, that started the car, "Take it for a drive and it should
>>>> be OK" he said. So I did, the car wasn't happy, there were several
>>>> warning lights, and it only had one gear. On return from a 30 minute
>>>> drive, the car wouldn't start again. So I took the battery to the
>>>> local battery shop, he stuck it on his computer controlled charger
>>>> and it seems OK now, although I don't have full confidence in it yet.
>>>>
>>>> OTOH the 32 year old MX-5 started first turn of the key.
>>>
>>> The parasitic voltage drain on modern cars is horrendous, and
>>> especially if you don't "put them to sleep" like parking them in a
>>> garage without locking them for example. Your MX-5's only load would
>>> be it's clock, but the 3 would be something else entirely.
>>>
>>> If you're going to park it for extended periods, then it would be a
>>> good idea to invest in a battery charger that has a good float mode.
>>> Ctek make a range that work well.
>>
>> Agree, I have one that I connect to whatever car I'm not using much.
>
> repco currently have 25% off some chargers, But this is well worth
> looking into:
> https://www.repco.com.au/globes-batteries-electrical/battery-chargers-power-accessories/battery-chargers/ctek-battery-charger-12v-5amp-mxs5-0/p/A9512219  Members price $95.00    cheap for ctek...
>

A very good price, I have the 7amp model, had it for about 12mths.
I also have an older Aldi Ctek copy that seems to work okay but I
haven't used it since I bought that Ctek.

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On 15/06/2023 11:02 am, lindsay wrote:
> On 7/06/2023 9:43 am, Daryl wrote:
>> On 6/6/2023 7:01 pm, Noddy wrote:

>>> If you're going to park it for extended periods, then it would be a
>>> good idea to invest in a battery charger that has a good float mode.
>>> Ctek make a range that work well.
>>
>> Agree, I have one that I connect to whatever car I'm not using much.
>
> repco currently have 25% off some chargers, But this is well worth
> looking into:
> https://www.repco.com.au/globes-batteries-electrical/battery-chargers-power-accessories/battery-chargers/ctek-battery-charger-12v-5amp-mxs5-0/p/A9512219  Members price $95.00    cheap for ctek...

It is indeed. They're great chargers. I bought one this morning in fact.
Paid an extra 10 bucks as I couldn't be fucked driving to Melton to pick
it up.

If anyone's looking for a great battery charger, these little 5amp Cteks
are excellent.

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Regards,
Noddy.

On 15/06/2023 1:53 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 15/06/2023 11:02 am, lindsay wrote:
>> On 7/06/2023 9:43 am, Daryl wrote:
>>> On 6/6/2023 7:01 pm, Noddy wrote:
>
>>>> If you're going to park it for extended periods, then it would be a
>>>> good idea to invest in a battery charger that has a good float mode.
>>>> Ctek make a range that work well.
>>>
>>> Agree, I have one that I connect to whatever car I'm not using much.
>>
>> repco currently have 25% off some chargers, But this is well worth
>> looking into:
>> https://www.repco.com.au/globes-batteries-electrical/battery-chargers-power-accessories/battery-chargers/ctek-battery-charger-12v-5amp-mxs5-0/p/A9512219  Members price $95.00    cheap for ctek...
>
> It is indeed. They're great chargers. I bought one this morning in fact.
> Paid an extra 10 bucks as I couldn't be fucked driving to Melton to pick
> it up.
>
> If anyone's looking for a great battery charger, these little 5amp Cteks
> are excellent.

Worth paying the delivery fee. It's here already :)

> https://www.imagebam.com/view/MELZ2GZ

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Noddy.

On 15/6/2023 3:05 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 15/06/2023 1:53 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 15/06/2023 11:02 am, lindsay wrote:
>>> On 7/06/2023 9:43 am, Daryl wrote:
>>>> On 6/6/2023 7:01 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>>>> If you're going to park it for extended periods, then it would be a
>>>>> good idea to invest in a battery charger that has a good float
>>>>> mode. Ctek make a range that work well.
>>>>
>>>> Agree, I have one that I connect to whatever car I'm not using much.
>>>
>>> repco currently have 25% off some chargers, But this is well worth
>>> looking into:
>>> https://www.repco.com.au/globes-batteries-electrical/battery-chargers-power-accessories/battery-chargers/ctek-battery-charger-12v-5amp-mxs5-0/p/A9512219  Members price $95.00    cheap for ctek...
>>
>> It is indeed. They're great chargers. I bought one this morning in
>> fact. Paid an extra 10 bucks as I couldn't be fucked driving to Melton
>> to pick it up.
>>
>> If anyone's looking for a great battery charger, these little 5amp
>> Cteks are excellent.
>
> Worth paying the delivery fee. It's here already :)
>
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/MELZ2GZ
>
>
>
Nice, sometimes their delivery system works.
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On 15/06/2023 3:43 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 15/6/2023 3:05 pm, Noddy wrote:

>>> If anyone's looking for a great battery charger, these little 5amp
>>> Cteks are excellent.
>>
>> Worth paying the delivery fee. It's here already :)
>>
>>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/MELZ2GZ
>>
>>
>>
> Nice, sometimes their delivery system works.

For some reason I thought it was being sent through the post. Oh well,
it's on a car now and working.

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Noddy.

On 15/06/2023 11:02 am, lindsay wrote:

> repco currently have 25% off some chargers, But this is well worth
> looking into:
> https://www.repco.com.au/globes-batteries-electrical/battery-chargers-power-accessories/battery-chargers/ctek-battery-charger-12v-5amp-mxs5-0/p/A9512219  Members price $95.00    cheap for ctek...
>
Thanks for that, got one today.

On 18/06/2023 5:29 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
> On 15/06/2023 11:02 am, lindsay wrote:
>
>> repco currently have 25% off some chargers, But this is well worth
>> looking into:
>> https://www.repco.com.au/globes-batteries-electrical/battery-chargers-power-accessories/battery-chargers/ctek-battery-charger-12v-5amp-mxs5-0/p/A9512219  Members price $95.00    cheap for ctek...
>>
> Thanks for that, got one today.

You won't be disappointed. They're a great charger. One of the best on
the market (if not *the* best), and perfect for keeping batteries in top
shape.

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Regards,
Noddy.

On 18/6/2023 7:59 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 18/06/2023 5:29 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>> On 15/06/2023 11:02 am, lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> repco currently have 25% off some chargers, But this is well worth
>>> looking into:
>>> https://www.repco.com.au/globes-batteries-electrical/battery-chargers-power-accessories/battery-chargers/ctek-battery-charger-12v-5amp-mxs5-0/p/A9512219  Members price $95.00    cheap for ctek...
>>>
>> Thanks for that, got one today.
>
> You won't be disappointed. They're a great charger. One of the best on
> the market (if not *the* best), and perfect for keeping batteries in top
> shape.
>

What I like about the brand is I feel like I can trust it in that I can
leave it connected even if I'm not home, I don't have the same
confidence with a cheaper battery charger like the Aldi Ctek copy I have.

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Daryl

On 18/06/2023 9:59 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 18/6/2023 7:59 pm, Noddy wrote:

>> You won't be disappointed. They're a great charger. One of the best on
>> the market (if not *the* best), and perfect for keeping batteries in
>> top shape.
>>
>
>
> What I like about the brand is I feel like I can trust it in that I can
> leave it connected even if I'm not home, I don't have the same
> confidence with a cheaper battery charger like the Aldi Ctek copy I have.

I've been progressively updating all my battery chargers to Ctek over
the last few years. Bought a 7 amp one from Repco this morning as it
happens as they had them for 150 bucks which is around half the normal
retail price depending on where you shop.

I've had zero problems with them and I love the fact that in a power
outage they resume normal operation once power is restored unlike the
cheap Aldi units which reset themselves and change from a charger to a
voltage reader. I've had a couple of 5 amp Cteks on my tractor and ride
on for the last 5 years or so and they've been faultless. They both
spend 9 months of the year locked in a container with their batteries on
float, and as soon as work season comes around they start straight up
with their batteries kept in great shape.

I tried a Noco Genius 5amp charger once as they were tarted as a
slightly more economical but just as smart Ctek alternative at the time,
but it only lasted 12 months before it stopped working and the supplier
didn't want to know about it. My oldest Ctek is a little .8 amp trickle
charger that I have on my generator, and in 10 years it's never missed a
beat.

I'll stick with Ctek as they make high quality reliable gear. My old
"Projecta" chargers are going in the bin :)

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Noddy.

On 18/6/2023 10:24 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 18/06/2023 9:59 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 18/6/2023 7:59 pm, Noddy wrote:
>
>>> You won't be disappointed. They're a great charger. One of the best
>>> on the market (if not *the* best), and perfect for keeping batteries
>>> in top shape.
>>>
>>
>>
>> What I like about the brand is I feel like I can trust it in that I
>> can leave it connected even if I'm not home, I don't have the same
>> confidence with a cheaper battery charger like the Aldi Ctek copy I have.
>
> I've been progressively updating all my battery chargers to Ctek over
> the last few years. Bought a 7 amp one from Repco this morning as it
> happens as they had them for 150 bucks which is around half the normal
> retail price depending on where you shop.
>
> I've had zero problems with them and I love the fact that in a power
> outage they resume normal operation once power is restored unlike the
> cheap Aldi units which reset themselves and change from a charger to a
> voltage reader.

I didn't know they did that, that's a great feature.

I've had a couple of 5 amp Cteks on my tractor and ride
> on for the last 5 years or so and they've been faultless. They both
> spend 9 months of the year locked in a container with their batteries on
> float, and as soon as work season comes around they start straight up
> with their batteries kept in great shape.
>
> I tried a Noco Genius 5amp charger once as they were tarted as a
> slightly more economical but just as smart Ctek alternative at the time,
> but it only lasted 12 months before it stopped working and the supplier
> didn't want to know about it. My oldest Ctek is a little .8 amp trickle
> charger that I have on my generator, and in 10 years it's never missed a
> beat.
>
> I'll stick with Ctek as they make high quality reliable gear. My old
> "Projecta" chargers are going in the bin :)
>

I should do the same, my old Projecta battery charger must be at least
30yrs old.

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On 19/06/2023 10:14 am, Daryl wrote:
> On 18/6/2023 10:24 pm, Noddy wrote:

>> I've had zero problems with them and I love the fact that in a power
>> outage they resume normal operation once power is restored unlike the
>> cheap Aldi units which reset themselves and change from a charger to a
>> voltage reader.
>
> I didn't know they did that, that's a great feature.

Yeah, they're quite smart. They really are set and forget chargers in
every sense.

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Noddy.

On Monday, 19 June 2023 at 10:18:01 UTC+10, Noddy wrote:
> On 19/06/2023 10:14 am, Daryl wrote:
> > On 18/6/2023 10:24 pm, Noddy wrote:
>
> >> I've had zero problems with them and I love the fact that in a power
> >> outage they resume normal operation once power is restored unlike the
> >> cheap Aldi units which reset themselves and change from a charger to a
> >> voltage reader.
> >
> > I didn't know they did that, that's a great feature.
> Yeah, they're quite smart. They really are set and forget chargers in
> every sense.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Just tried that with my $28 cheapy (ZYX-J30). After cycling thru some options it went back to charging..Has all the features of Ctek etc.

ZYX-J30 140W Battery Charger 12V 24V Pulse Repair Car Motorcycle Battery Charger Black & Yellow

Description:
This is a fully automatic battery charger with 3 charge stages.

Automatic charging protects your battery from being overcharged. So you can leave the charger connected to the battery indefinitely.

3-stage charger is suitable for most battery types including Calcium, Gel and AGM, Wet batteries. They may also help restore drained and sulphated batteries.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Got a random battery off the NRMA *dead* pallet, and yep, it came back up.

Features:
- Microprocessor control (CPU)
- Types of batteries: Most types of lead acid batteries including Calcium, GEL and AGM, Wet, EFB, etc.
- Switch-mode technology: Yes
- Polarity protection: Yes
- Output short-circuit protection: Yes
- Non battery link protection: Yes
- Over-voltage protection: Yes
- Over-temperature protection: Yes
- Cooling: Fan
- Input voltage: 100-240V AC, 50-60Hz
- Rated output: 12V 8A; 24V 4A
- Minimum start voltage: 2.0V
- Thermal protect: 65℃±5℃
- Efficiency: Approx. 85%
- Compliant standards: CB,CE, IEC60335, EN61000, and EN55014

Product Parameters:
- Product Model: ZYX-J30
- Size: 162 x 100 x 55mm/6.4 x 3.9 x 2.2"
- Net Weight: 0.6KG/1.3LB
- Output voltage: DC 13.8V-27.6V
- Output peak current: 8A
- Output Line Length: 65cm/25.6"
- Input Line Length: 110cm/43.3"
- Scope of Application: 12V/24V 2AH-150AH lead-acid batteries/start-up and shutdown batteries (lithium batteries are not charged)

Package Included:
- 1 x Battery Charger

Note:
- It is not for lithium battery charging.
- Batteries are not included in the package.
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> Regards,
> Noddy.

On 19/6/2023 10:14 am, Daryl wrote:
> On 18/6/2023 10:24 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 18/06/2023 9:59 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>> On 18/6/2023 7:59 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>>> You won't be disappointed. They're a great charger. One of the best
>>>> on the market (if not *the* best), and perfect for keeping batteries
>>>> in top shape.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What I like about the brand is I feel like I can trust it in that I
>>> can leave it connected even if I'm not home, I don't have the same
>>> confidence with a cheaper battery charger like the Aldi Ctek copy I
>>> have.
>>
>> I've been progressively updating all my battery chargers to Ctek over
>> the last few years. Bought a 7 amp one from Repco this morning as it
>> happens as they had them for 150 bucks which is around half the normal
>> retail price depending on where you shop.
>>
>> I've had zero problems with them and I love the fact that in a power
>> outage they resume normal operation once power is restored unlike the
>> cheap Aldi units which reset themselves and change from a charger to a
>> voltage reader.
>
> I didn't know they did that, that's a great feature.

Darren clearly hasn't a clue. The Aldi chargers default to a 0.8Amp
trickle charge mode in the case of power interruption, says so in the
instructions and mine did so when I tested it. Anyway, you wouldn't
expect full on battery backed up memory in a charger that costs a mere
$30. The cheapo Aldi charger works perfectly in the scenario for which
mine was purchased - trickle charging small 12 volt SLA batteries. I
imagine it would be no different were I to use it to maintain a state of
charge on our car batteries during periods of disuse.
>
>  I've had a couple of 5 amp Cteks on my tractor and ride
>> on for the last 5 years or so and they've been faultless. They both
>> spend 9 months of the year locked in a container with their batteries
>> on float, and as soon as work season comes around they start straight
>> up with their batteries kept in great shape.
>>
>> I tried a Noco Genius 5amp charger once as they were tarted as a
>> slightly more economical but just as smart Ctek alternative at the
>> time, but it only lasted 12 months before it stopped working and the
>> supplier didn't want to know about it. My oldest Ctek is a little .8
>> amp trickle charger that I have on my generator, and in 10 years it's
>> never missed a beat.
>>
>> I'll stick with Ctek as they make high quality reliable gear. My old
>> "Projecta" chargers are going in the bin :)
>>
>
> I should do the same, my old Projecta battery charger must be at least
> 30yrs old.
>
If it works, why toss it out? I have a battery charger here that must be
well over 30 years old purchased some time in the 80s. It's a Motogard
branded 4 Amp unit that was made in new Zealand. No idea what it cost me
way back when I bought it but I figure not much more than I paid for the
Aldi unit. The big difference, this Motogard unit is unintelligent but
uses discrete components and is therefore eminently *repairable*. It too
defaults to a trickle charge as the battery to which it is connected
comes up to full charge.

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Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 19/06/2023 4:18 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 19/6/2023 10:14 am, Daryl wrote:
>> On 18/6/2023 10:24 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>> On 18/06/2023 9:59 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>> On 18/6/2023 7:59 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>
>>>>> You won't be disappointed. They're a great charger. One of the best
>>>>> on the market (if not *the* best), and perfect for keeping
>>>>> batteries in top shape.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What I like about the brand is I feel like I can trust it in that I
>>>> can leave it connected even if I'm not home, I don't have the same
>>>> confidence with a cheaper battery charger like the Aldi Ctek copy I
>>>> have.
>>>
>>> I've been progressively updating all my battery chargers to Ctek over
>>> the last few years. Bought a 7 amp one from Repco this morning as it
>>> happens as they had them for 150 bucks which is around half the
>>> normal retail price depending on where you shop.
>>>
>>> I've had zero problems with them and I love the fact that in a power
>>> outage they resume normal operation once power is restored unlike the
>>> cheap Aldi units which reset themselves and change from a charger to
>>> a voltage reader.
>>
>> I didn't know they did that, that's a great feature.
>
> Darren clearly hasn't a clue. The Aldi chargers default to a 0.8Amp
> trickle charge mode in the case of power interruption, says so in the
> instructions and mine did so when I tested it. Anyway, you wouldn't
> expect full on battery backed up memory in a charger that costs a mere
> $30. The cheapo Aldi charger works perfectly in the scenario for which
> mine was purchased - trickle charging small 12 volt SLA batteries. I
> imagine it would be no different were I to use it to maintain a state of
> charge on our car batteries during periods of disuse.
>>
>>   I've had a couple of 5 amp Cteks on my tractor and ride
>>> on for the last 5 years or so and they've been faultless. They both
>>> spend 9 months of the year locked in a container with their batteries
>>> on float, and as soon as work season comes around they start straight
>>> up with their batteries kept in great shape.
>>>
>>> I tried a Noco Genius 5amp charger once as they were tarted as a
>>> slightly more economical but just as smart Ctek alternative at the
>>> time, but it only lasted 12 months before it stopped working and the
>>> supplier didn't want to know about it. My oldest Ctek is a little .8
>>> amp trickle charger that I have on my generator, and in 10 years it's
>>> never missed a beat.
>>>
>>> I'll stick with Ctek as they make high quality reliable gear. My old
>>> "Projecta" chargers are going in the bin :)
>>>
>>
>> I should do the same, my old Projecta battery charger must be at least
>> 30yrs old.
>>
> If it works, why toss it out? I have a battery charger here that must be
> well over 30 years old purchased some time in the 80s. It's a Motogard
> branded 4 Amp unit that was made in new Zealand. No idea what it cost me
> way back when I bought it but I figure not much more than I paid for the
> Aldi unit. The big difference, this Motogard unit is unintelligent but
> uses discrete components and is therefore eminently *repairable*. It too
> defaults to a trickle charge as the battery to which it is connected
> comes up to full charge.
>

Those CTEK chargers work well when they do, but they just don't last
that's the problem.

OTOH the old dumb Projecta/Motogard/whatever are basic chargers but last
forever.

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In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

On 19/06/2023 1:52 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
> On Monday, 19 June 2023 at 10:18:01 UTC+10, Noddy wrote:

>>> I didn't know they did that, that's a great feature.
>> Yeah, they're quite smart. They really are set and forget chargers in
>> every sense.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Just tried that with my $28 cheapy (ZYX-J30). After cycling thru some options it went back to charging..Has all the features of Ctek etc.

<snip>

You have to watch some of the cheap ones. They make grand claims, but in
practice they often don't live up to expectations. Not saying yours is
like that, but many are. Like the Aldi ones for example. Not only do
they not resume after a power outage, but despite claiming to be a
"smart" trickle charger they will kill a battery if left on long enough.

My Cteks get left on for months at a time and cause no issues
whatsoever. In fact the one on my generator has gone as long as 3 years
on permanent charge and the battery is perfectly fine.

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Regards,
Noddy.

On Fri, 23 Jun 2023 14:23:56 +1000, Noddy wrote:

> On 19/06/2023 1:52 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>> On Monday, 19 June 2023 at 10:18:01 UTC+10, Noddy wrote:
>
>>>> I didn't know they did that, that's a great feature.
>>> Yeah, they're quite smart. They really are set and forget chargers in
>>> every sense.
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> Just tried that with my $28 cheapy (ZYX-J30). After cycling thru some
>> options it went back to charging..Has all the features of Ctek etc.
>
> <snip>
>
> You have to watch some of the cheap ones. They make grand claims, but in
> practice they often don't live up to expectations.

Yep. Have seen a lot of that. The collective term is, 'Gibbens'...

alvey <Paddy.O.Furniture@Coast.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Jun 2023 14:23:56 +1000, Noddy wrote:
>
>> On 19/06/2023 1:52 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>> On Monday, 19 June 2023 at 10:18:01 UTC+10, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>>>> I didn't know they did that, that's a great feature.
>>>> Yeah, they're quite smart. They really are set and forget chargers in
>>>> every sense.
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>> Just tried that with my $28 cheapy (ZYX-J30). After cycling thru some
>>> options it went back to charging..Has all the features of Ctek etc.
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> You have to watch some of the cheap ones. They make grand claims, but in
>> practice they often don't live up to expectations.
>
> Yep. Have seen a lot of that. The collective term is, 'Gibbens'...
>
>
Not as much lately, no doubt due to the ever expanding credibility gap
that’s emerged since Gibbens exposure as a fraud of the greatest magnitude,
a credibility gap that could easily be bridged by the provision of proof of
claims. Why do I feel so reassured such proof will never be forthcoming?

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Xeno