On 4/27/2024 12:44 PM, Rick wrote:
> "Emanuel Berg"  wrote in message news:87ttjmda9b.fsf@dataswamp.org...
>>
>> Rick wrote:
>>
>>> I think she told everyone she was wealthy to make the others
>>> realize she doesn't need the money, and maybe to hint they
>>> should keep her around because no one would vote for
>>> a millionaire to win the game (although that's pretty much
>>> what happened with Gabler).
>>
>> Of all the S01-S45 winners, who do you think was the most
>> wealthy before winning?
>>
>> Sandra and Tony should both be high up on that list, with
>> money from their previous wins and also side-effect money from
>> being a celebrity already.
>>
>> But maybe Gabler, or someone else, was even more rich when
>> they won?
>>
>
> That's a great question.   S37 winner Nick was an attorney and attorneys
> often are paid well, though I vaguely recall he worked as a public
> defender, so maybe that doesn't mean much in his case.  Yul was a
> business guy who knew Finance pretty well, so I would think he would
> have money.  I believe he later worked at both Facebook and Google, but
> that was probably after he had won.  Several winners had their own
> companies before they won, like Earl and Kim, so maybe some of them were
> reasonably well off.  Wasn't Hatch a management consultant?  Danni
> worked in TV as a sports commentator, I think, so depending on the
> market she was in, maybe she had some money
>
> If you count family income, Boston Rob's wife Amber had already won a
> million for winning Survivor All-Stars and Rob had won at least $100K
> for that season plus whatever they both had won on their prior seasons
> before he finally won.  Rob was also pretty well known by the time of
> his winning season, so maybe it's Boston Rob?

IIRC, Nick had just become an attorney and he was a public defender so I
doubt he was the richest. Kim had a wedding boutique business but again,
I don't think she was rich.Excluding Tony and Sandra who had already won
once each, Boston Rob probably was the richest when he finally won. He
and Amber had done TAR twice, and he had done other shows and tons of
events. Denise probably had a few bucks as well before she won. Wasn't
she a sex therapist. Yam Yam also might have been well off before winning.

> A related question is of all the people who ever played on Survivor, who
> made the most money afterward as a result of being on the show?  I would
> exclude people who were already mega-rich celebs when they were cast
> like Jimmy Johnson and some of the pro athletes.  Of the regular people
> who were cast on the show, my guess would be Elizabeth Filarski
> Hasselbeck, who got a gig on a network TV show for several years as a
> direct result of her time on the show and is no doubt a
> multi-millionaire today.

Hard to say but some of them have definitely done well thanks to
Survivor. I don't think anyone will ever top Jamie Kern from BB1 who
ended up selling her cosmetics company to L'Oreal in 2016 for $1.2 billion.

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On 4/27/2024 1:38 PM, Emanuel Berg wrote:
> Rick wrote:
>
>> Anytime there is doubt or ambiguity or any kind of live
>> tribal or discussion right up to the moment of voting, you
>> play the damned idol!
>
> Ikr?
>
> But he sure must be his own hardest critic at this point :)

No, he's too busy bashing Venus.

In this past episode, he rang off the names of people he was done with
including Liz. I thought they were close? Did Hunter misread things? I
think he did. He turned out to be a pretty one-dimensional player. No
QSkirt for Hunter!

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On Sat, 27 Apr 2024 15:24:25 -0400, "Rick" <rick@nospam.com> wrote:

>"Emanuel Berg" wrote in message news:87le4yd63n.fsf@dataswamp.org...
>>
>>Really bad by Hunter not to play his idol.
>>
>>You tend to trust your alliance, that is why people sometimes
>>get voted out with not one but two idols.
>>
>>But here he was very nervous about it, he didn't trust anyone.
>>Why didn't he play it?
>>
>
>Because he looked around at the live Tribal and several people were saying
>Vote Q. I didn't pause it at that moment to track who said that to him, but
>he obviously felt confident enough to take the chance.
>
>I thought it was dumb. dumb, dumb for him to not play the idol. Anytime
>there is doubt or ambiguity or any kind of live tribal or discussion right
>up to the moment of voting, you play the damned idol! The worst case is
>that you play it wrong, and then you go looking for it again the next day.
>Hunter should have known he was the best at finding a re-planted idol, and
>he was also had the best chance of winning immunities. He 100% should have
>played it.

He clearly should have played his idol. Especially given that he kept
questioning whether he should play it or not. I understand the desire
to keep an idol in your pocket but if a player is so nervous they keep
questioning whether they should play it or not, then they probably
should play it. As for him finding a new idol I'm not clear on if he
plays his idol that a new one would be hidden given that Tiffany still
had an idol.

On 4/27/2024 12:15 PM, Emanuel Berg wrote:
> Really bad by Hunter not to play his idol.
>
> You tend to trust your alliance, that is why people sometimes
> get voted out with not one but two idols.
>
> But here he was very nervous about it, he didn't trust anyone.
> Why didn't he play it?

In this clip from his exit interview with Rob, he said he thought Tiff
was mad enough at Q to vote for him and that if he an Liz voted for Q
they would have the votes to get him out. So he gambled and got burned
because he misread Tiff.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Kd8F8SbIqmM

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shawn wrote:

> He clearly should have played his idol. Especially given
> that he kept questioning whether he should play it or not.
> I understand the desire to keep an idol in your pocket but
> if a player is so nervous they keep questioning whether they
> should play it or not, then they probably should play it.

100%.

You know what they say in Barcelona, if you ever thought about
taking a psychedelic drug, you are like "maybe", then you
should do it :)

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Rick wrote:

>>> I think she told everyone she was wealthy to make the
>>> others realize she doesn't need the money, and maybe to
>>> hint they should keep her around because no one would vote
>>> for a millionaire to win the game (although that's pretty
>>> much what happened with Gabler).
>>
>> Of all the S01-S45 winners, who do you think was the most
>> wealthy before winning? [...]
>
> That's a great question. [...]

I found a website, it says number one is David Samson who
I don't remember. Maybe they include everyone who played?

I also didn't see any other on that site than him, despite
the title. Maybe you have better luck,

https://www.justjared.com/2023/09/05/the-richest-survivor-contestants-ranked-from-lowest-to-highest-net-worth-2/11/

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"Emanuel Berg" wrote in message news:87a5leazks.fsf@dataswamp.org...
>
>Rick wrote:
>
>>>> I think she told everyone she was wealthy to make the
>>>> others realize she doesn't need the money, and maybe to
>>>> hint they should keep her around because no one would vote
>>>> for a millionaire to win the game (although that's pretty
>>>> much what happened with Gabler).
>>>
>>> Of all the S01-S45 winners, who do you think was the most
>>> wealthy before winning? [...]
>>
>> That's a great question. [...]
>
>I found a website, it says number one is David Samson who
>I don't remember. Maybe they include everyone who played?
>
>I also didn't see any other on that site than him, despite
>the title. Maybe you have better luck,
>
>
> https://www.justjared.com/2023/09/05/the-richest-survivor-contestants-ranked-from-lowest-to-highest-net-worth-2/11/
>

I remember that season. David Samson was a multi-millionaire baseball team
owner who already had money before he was on the show. He got voted out
early, if I recall. I was interested in who made the most money as a direct
result of being on the show. I mentioned Elizabeth Hasselbeck as my guess,
and I checked a website that guesses celebrity net worth and it estimates
her wealth as about $16 million. I can't think of anyone else who became
that wealthy after leaving the show. There are many like Chase Rice who
became highly successful and millionaires in their own right, but Elizabeth
was a network TV host for several years which really built up her wealth.

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Rick wrote:

> I remember that season. David Samson was a multi-millionaire
> baseball team owner who already had money before he was on
> the show. He got voted out early, if I recall. I was
> interested in who made the most money as a direct result of
> being on the show.

That should be more easy, right? Sandra and Tony from price
money since both won twice, maybe Boston Rob from price money
and playing the "celebrity status" cards the right
way afterwards?

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