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* Unfamiliar kanaSpiros Bousbouras
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 `- Unfamiliar kana あ゙ or ゔ. Dakuten can also be occasionally used with ん (ん゙)HenHanna

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 by: Spiros Bousbouras - Sun, 19 Nov 2023 15:23 UTC

I'm going through a manga and I have encountered a kana which looks like
ん but also has 2 small lines on upper right. They look similar (in size ,
position and orientation) to the 2 small lines of じ , ぢ and various
other kana. Can someone tell me what this is ? In case it helps , the text
has 2 successive appearances of the kana.

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 by: Stefan Ram - Sun, 19 Nov 2023 15:33 UTC

Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> writes:
>I'm going through a manga and I have encountered a kana which looks like
>ん but also has 2 small lines on upper right.

This might be a ん (moraic n) with a dakuten.

"In informal writing, dakuten is occasionally used on vowels to
indicate a shocked or strangled articulation; for example, on
あ゙ or ゔ. Dakuten can also be occasionally used with ん (ん゙) to
indicate a guttural hum, growl, or similar sound." - Wikipedia

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 by: Jim - Mon, 20 Nov 2023 15:29 UTC

On 19 Nov 2023 15:33:12 GMT, Stefan Ram wrote:

> Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> writes:
>>I'm going through a manga and I have encountered a kana which looks like
>>ん but also has 2 small lines on upper right.
>
> This might be a ん (moraic n) with a dakuten.
>
> "In informal writing, dakuten is occasionally used on vowels to
> indicate a shocked or strangled articulation; for example, on
> あ゙ or ゔ. Dakuten can also be occasionally used with ん (ん゙) to
> indicate a guttural hum, growl, or similar sound." - Wikipedia

On a tangent, the dakuten also may be combined with Japanese vowels,
also normally not so modified.

https://www.unicode.org/L2/L2016/16133-japanese-voiced-vowels.pdf

Cheers!

jim b.

--
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expects users to be computer friendly.

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 by: Spiros Bousbouras - Mon, 20 Nov 2023 19:36 UTC

On 19 Nov 2023 15:33:12 GMT
ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) wrote:
> Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> writes:
> >I'm going through a manga and I have encountered a kana which looks like
> >ん but also has 2 small lines on upper right.
>
> This might be a ん (moraic n) with a dakuten.
>
> "In informal writing, dakuten is occasionally used on vowels to
> indicate a shocked or strangled articulation; for example, on
> あ゙ or ゔ. Dakuten can also be occasionally used with ん (ん゙) to
> indicate a guttural hum, growl, or similar sound." - Wikipedia

ん゙ looks right , thanks.

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 by: HenHanna - Mon, 4 Mar 2024 23:39 UTC

On 11/19/2023 7:33 AM, Stefan Ram wrote:
> Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> writes:
>> I'm going through a manga and I have encountered a kana which looks like
>> ん but also has 2 small lines on upper right.
>
> This might be a ん (moraic n) with a dakuten.
>

> "In informal writing, dakuten is occasionally used on vowels to
> indicate a shocked or strangled articulation; for example, on
> あ゙ or ゔ. Dakuten can also be occasionally used with ん (ん゙) to
> indicate a guttural hum, growl, or similar sound." - Wikipedia
>

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