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The World Doesn’t Buy The West's Stupid Narrative. Ukraine Will Be Neutral | Chas Freeman …

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Subject: The World Doesn’t Buy The West's Stupid Narrative.
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 by: Nick - Sat, 29 Jul 2023 17:53 UTC

In the third part of the interview, former US Ambassador Chas Freeman is
talking about why Ukraine will end up being neutralized as a buffer state
between NATO and Russia. We also discuss the horrible mistakes the West
made when dealing with Russia over the past 35 years, lying to Moscow at
every single turn. The Russians have very little incentive to ever believe
the Europeans again when they promise anything. Hard power is the only way
for Moscow to be sure that the West will not renege on its promises. Oh
and by the way, the rest of the world doesn't really care about Europe's
infantile wars about who gets to control what territory in a far-away
place, because the West is definitely losing the info war in the
nonaligned world! Sit down and talk it out, Europe!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9h2-_CaXSc

Онзи какво ли ще каже за Чаз Фрийман? Руски агент, изкукал старец или нещо
подобно от репертоара си?!

Но преди да го каже, му препоръчвам да си спомни условията, които
руснаците поставиха през декември 2021 и тогава да го казва. Нямам илюзии,
че ще пропусне да се обади.

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«地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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 by: Ivaylo Ivanov - Mon, 31 Jul 2023 15:45 UTC

On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 1:53:35 PM UTC-4, Nick wrote:
> In the third part of the interview, former US Ambassador Chas Freeman is
> talking about why Ukraine will end up being neutralized as a buffer state
> between NATO and Russia.
Този влак напусна гарата преди година и половина.
> We also discuss the horrible mistakes the West
> made when dealing with Russia over the past 35 years, lying to Moscow at
> every single turn. The Russians have very little incentive to ever believe
> the Europeans again when they promise anything.
А колко ли вяра имат европейците на Русия, която до последния момент
отричаше, че ще започне пълномащабна инвазия в Украйна? М?
> Hard power is the only way
> for Moscow to be sure that the West will not renege on its promises. Oh
> and by the way, the rest of the world doesn't really care about Europe's
> infantile wars about who gets to control what territory in a far-away
> place, because the West is definitely losing the info war in the
> nonaligned world! Sit down and talk it out, Europe!
"nonaligned world" се интересува предимно от покупка на руски ресурси на аванта, или
пък онези, които продават суровини, гледат да не ядосат много Китай,
най-големият им пазар. Тези страни никога не са се интересували от далечни
войни, които не ги засягат.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9h2-_CaXSc
>
> Онзи какво ли ще каже за Чаз Фрийман? Руски агент, изкукал старец или нещо
> подобно от репертоара си?!
Не, няма да кажа нищо подобно. Ще кажа, че в САЩ всеки има право на лично мнение.

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 by: Nick - Mon, 31 Jul 2023 18:03 UTC

On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 08:45:56 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

> On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 1:53:35 PM UTC-4, Nick wrote:

>> In the third part of the interview, former US Ambassador Chas Freeman
>> is talking about why Ukraine will end up being neutralized as a buffer
>> state between NATO and Russia.

> Този влак напусна гарата преди година и половина.

>> We also discuss the horrible mistakes the West made when dealing with
>> Russia over the past 35 years, lying to Moscow at every single turn.
>> The Russians have very little incentive to ever believe the Europeans
>> again when they promise anything.

> А колко ли вяра имат европейците на Русия, която до последния момент
> отричаше, че ще започне пълномащабна инвазия в Украйна? М?

Изместваш темата.

>> Hard power is the only way for Moscow to be sure that the West will not
>> renege on its promises. Oh and by the way, the rest of the world
>> doesn't really care about Europe's infantile wars about who gets to
>> control what territory in a far-away place, because the West is
>> definitely losing the info war in the nonaligned world! Sit down and
>> talk it out, Europe!

> "nonaligned world" се интересува предимно от покупка на руски ресурси на
> аванта, или пък онези, които продават суровини, гледат да не ядосат
> много Китай, най-големият им пазар. Тези страни никога не са се
> интересували от далечни войни, които не ги засягат.

И тук също.

>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9h2-_CaXSc

>> Онзи какво ли ще каже за Чаз Фрийман? Руски агент, изкукал старец или
>> нещо подобно от репертоара си?!

> Не, няма да кажа нищо подобно. Ще кажа, че в САЩ всеки има право на
> лично мнение.

Само в САЩ, нали? Защото отричаш това право на останалите.

--
«地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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 by: chorbalan - Mon, 31 Jul 2023 20:16 UTC

On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 08:45:56 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

> On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 1:53:35 PM UTC-4, Nick wrote:
>> In the third part of the interview, former US Ambassador Chas Freeman is
>> talking about why Ukraine will end up being neutralized as a buffer state
>> between NATO and Russia.
>
> Този влак напусна гарата преди година и половина.

По някое време ще се върне на нея. 100%

>> We also discuss the horrible mistakes the West
>> made when dealing with Russia over the past 35 years, lying to Moscow at
>> every single turn. The Russians have very little incentive to ever believe
>> the Europeans again when they promise anything.
>
> А колко ли вяра имат европейците на Русия, която до последния момент
> отричаше, че ще започне пълномащабна инвазия в Украйна? М?

Танто за кукуригу! Защо си мислиш че само западът може да лъже?


>> Hard power is the only way
>> for Moscow to be sure that the West will not renege on its promises. Oh
>> and by the way, the rest of the world doesn't really care about Europe's
>> infantile wars about who gets to control what territory in a far-away
>> place, because the West is definitely losing the info war in the
>> nonaligned world! Sit down and talk it out, Europe!
>
> "nonaligned world" се интересува предимно от покупка на руски ресурси на аванта, или
> пък онези, които продават суровини, гледат да не ядосат много Китай,
> най-големият им пазар. Тези страни никога не са се интересували от далечни
> войни, които не ги засягат.

Щото западът се интересува от нещо друго ли? Ай сиктир па ти..

>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9h2-_CaXSc
>>
>> Онзи какво ли ще каже за Чаз Фрийман? Руски агент, изкукал старец или нещо
>> подобно от репертоара си?!
>
> Не, няма да кажа нищо подобно. Ще кажа, че в САЩ всеки има право на лично мнение.

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