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Subject: Concerning subjective time and life after death
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 by: Lazarus Cain - Fri, 10 Nov 2023 14:46 UTC

Despite the millennia of debates, time remains the most mysterious concept in physics where time is interpreted differently in general relativity and quantum mechanics. In the former, time is part of the system that is space-time. In the latter, time is external to the system but the question is, why does the arrow of time, which transports us from the past into the present and then the future
exist?

Everybody agrees, though, that time is change. We perceive this change
through the flow of information in the opposite direction, from the future
into the present, and the present into the past, at which point it becomes
fixed and unchangeable.

External to the mental state of each human body is the sstandard physical universe where we all observe a common progression of time as the observed state of the universe changes.

Within ach of us is a stream of consciousness which is somewhat independent, but also dependent, on the change of state of the immediate worldly environment. Also, each individual experiences his or her own mental state which is relative to the history of the individual body. These mental changes of state experience their own individual unique histories which are common to but not experienced at he same time as the mental states of other individuals. That is, we understand the subjective time histories of each human soul are unique but also could be considered s common experiences. We all experience similar problems in our own time. These experiences are not a direct function of the world cllock which governs the physical events in our world, but more directly relaed to the progression of the change in the mental states as a function of free will.

At the end, or at death, there could be considered a next state of altered consciousness which is comon to us all but experienced at a separate earth world time at which time life of the body departs from earth. What transpires after is not a function of earth time, but earth time is not the only rate of displacement of states in the physical universe. With respect to light time, earth time is not really relevant and viewing things from the perspective of earth time cloudds our understanding of light time.

As we are also creatures of light, there is some need to undestand the probable existence of heaven as a potential destination for our souls of light after death.
Many wish to believe that.
Satan would have us to believe that we are nothing more than animals and that there is no GOD, and that there is no life for good souls after we leave earth. Satan would have us not believe in any GOD of Israel and all scripture is but a fairy tale.
Be careful what one believes, because the next state of one's own human consciuosness is a function of or slave to what is believed.
We are all slaves to the demands of our bodies, but faith in the Lord frees us all from such slavery if we can but believe the truth.
The Gospel tells us all that also.
True Jews may reject the New Testament, but so do the Palestinians who also reject the validity of the Old Testament and GOD of Israel which Christians do recognize. Palestiniansreject such faith.

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 by: Lazarus Cain - Fri, 10 Nov 2023 18:17 UTC

On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 8:46:30 AM UTC-6, Lazarus Cain wrote:
> Despite the millennia of debates, time remains the most mysterious concept in physics where time is interpreted differently in general relativity and quantum mechanics. In the former, time is part of the system that is space-time. In the latter, time is external to the system but the question is, why does the arrow of time, which transports us from the past into the present and then the future
> exist?
>
> Everybody agrees, though, that time is change. We perceive this change
> through the flow of information in the opposite direction, from the future
> into the present, and the present into the past, at which point it becomes
> fixed and unchangeable.
>
> External to the mental state of each human body is the sstandard physical universe where we all observe a common progression of time as the observed state of the universe changes.
>
> Within ach of us is a stream of consciousness which is somewhat independent, but also dependent, on the change of state of the immediate worldly environment. Also, each individual experiences his or her own mental state which is relative to the history of the individual body. These mental changes of state experience their own individual unique histories which are common to but not experienced at he same time as the mental states of other individuals. That is, we understand the subjective time histories of each human soul are unique but also could be considered s common experiences. We all experience similar problems in our own time. These experiences are not a direct function of the world cllock which governs the physical events in our world, but more directly relaed to the progression of the change in the mental states as a function of free will.
>
> At the end, or at death, there could be considered a next state of altered consciousness which is comon to us all but experienced at a separate earth world time at which time life of the body departs from earth. What transpires after is not a function of earth time, but earth time is not the only rate of displacement of states in the physical universe. With respect to light time, earth time is not really relevant and viewing things from the perspective of earth time cloudds our understanding of light time.
>
> As we are also creatures of light, there is some need to undestand the probable existence of heaven as a potential destination for our souls of light after death.
> Many wish to believe that.
> Satan would have us to believe that we are nothing more than animals and that there is no GOD, and that there is no life for good souls after we leave earth. Satan would have us not believe in any GOD of Israel and all scripture is but a fairy tale.
> Be careful what one believes, because the next state of one's own human consciuosness is a function of or slave to what is believed.
> We are all slaves to the demands of our bodies, but faith in the Lord frees us all from such slavery if we can but believe the truth.
> The Gospel tells us all that also.
> True Jews may reject the New Testament, but so do the Palestinians who also reject the validity of the Old Testament and GOD of Israel which Christians do recognize. Palestiniansreject such faith.
God’s Wisdom Revealed by the Spirit
6 We do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. 7 No, we declare God’s wisdom, a mystery that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 8 None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. 9 However, as it is written:

“What no eye has seen,
what no ear has heard,
and what no human mind has conceived”—
the things God has prepared for those who love him—

10 these are the things God has revealed to us by his Spirit.

The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. 11 For who knows a person’s thoughts except their own spirit within them? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. 12 What we have received is not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may understand what God has freely given us. 13 This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words. 14 The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit. 15 The person with the Spirit makes judgments about all things, but such a person is not subject to merely human judgments, 16 for,

“Who has known the mind of the Lord
so as to instruct him?”

But we have the mind of Christ.

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