By the way I have an short game tonight at 8pm. Hope you don't mind.
Alex decided to drop another session in on short notice yesterday night.

How are you doing? How was Sammy this morning by the way?

On 2/26/2024 1:27 PM, kyonshi wrote:
> By the way I have an short game tonight at 8pm. Hope you don't mind.
> Alex decided to drop another session in on short notice yesterday night.
>
> How are you doing? How was Sammy this morning by the way?

Argh. That was totally supposed to be a private message. Please ignore
everyone.

On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 13:35:35 +0100, kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 2/26/2024 1:27 PM, kyonshi wrote:
>> By the way I have an short game tonight at 8pm. Hope you don't mind.
>> Alex decided to drop another session in on short notice yesterday night.
>>
>> How are you doing? How was Sammy this morning by the way?
>
>
>Argh. That was totally supposed to be a private message. Please ignore
>everyone.

And THIS is why I stopped using an integrated email/newsreader
application. ;-)

But what is this 'short game' session of which you speak? I know what
each word means individually, but put together like that it makes no
sense.

On 2/26/2024 4:05 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 13:35:35 +0100, kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2/26/2024 1:27 PM, kyonshi wrote:
>>> By the way I have an short game tonight at 8pm. Hope you don't mind.
>>> Alex decided to drop another session in on short notice yesterday night.
>>>
>>> How are you doing? How was Sammy this morning by the way?
>>
>>
>> Argh. That was totally supposed to be a private message. Please ignore
>> everyone.
>
> And THIS is why I stopped using an integrated email/newsreader
> application. ;-)
>
> But what is this 'short game' session of which you speak? I know what
> each word means individually, but put together like that it makes no
> sense.
>
>

The server I am playing this on has game slots of 2h length. Which means
it's only the actual dungeon delve without any extras. It's a bit short
for my taste, but it definitely is easier to plan around than even 3-4h
sessions.

gmkeros@gmail.com wrote:
>On 2/26/2024 1:27 PM, kyonshi wrote:

>> By the way I have an short game tonight at 8pm. Hope you don't mind.
>> Alex decided to drop another session in on short notice yesterday night.
>>
>> How are you doing? How was Sammy this morning by the way?
>
>
>Argh. That was totally supposed to be a private message. Please ignore
>everyone.

Too late! You invited us!

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On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 14:10:58 -0500, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
wrote:

>gmkeros@gmail.com wrote:
>>On 2/26/2024 1:27 PM, kyonshi wrote:
>
>>> By the way I have an short game tonight at 8pm. Hope you don't mind.
>>> Alex decided to drop another session in on short notice yesterday night.
>>>
>>> How are you doing? How was Sammy this morning by the way?
>>
>>
>>Argh. That was totally supposed to be a private message. Please ignore
>>everyone.
>
>Too late! You invited us!

God... that would be a session of note. We'd all show up playing
completely different editions, and half of us would be DMs. ;-)

On 2/27/24 9:29 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 14:10:58 -0500, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
> wrote:
>
>> gmkeros@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On 2/26/2024 1:27 PM, kyonshi wrote:
>>
>>>> By the way I have an short game tonight at 8pm. Hope you don't mind.
>>>> Alex decided to drop another session in on short notice yesterday night.
>>>>
>>>> How are you doing? How was Sammy this morning by the way?
>>>
>>>
>>> Argh. That was totally supposed to be a private message. Please ignore
>>> everyone.
>>
>> Too late! You invited us!
>
> God... that would be a session of note. We'd all show up playing
> completely different editions, and half of us would be DMs. ;-)

I volunteer to be the player.

You can all DM me.

On 2/27/2024 8:29 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 14:10:58 -0500, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
> wrote:
>
>> gmkeros@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On 2/26/2024 1:27 PM, kyonshi wrote:
>>
>>>> By the way I have an short game tonight at 8pm. Hope you don't mind.
>>>> Alex decided to drop another session in on short notice yesterday night.
>>>>
>>>> How are you doing? How was Sammy this morning by the way?
>>>
>>>
>>> Argh. That was totally supposed to be a private message. Please ignore
>>> everyone.
>>
>> Too late! You invited us!
>
> God... that would be a session of note. We'd all show up playing
> completely different editions, and half of us would be DMs. ;-)

For the most part those who DM have been better players than chronic
players in my experience. There's always that one glaring exception though.

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On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 06:31:38 -0800, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On 2/27/2024 8:29 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>> On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 14:10:58 -0500, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> gmkeros@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On 2/26/2024 1:27 PM, kyonshi wrote:
>>>
>>>>> By the way I have an short game tonight at 8pm. Hope you don't mind.
>>>>> Alex decided to drop another session in on short notice yesterday night.
>>>>>
>>>>> How are you doing? How was Sammy this morning by the way?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Argh. That was totally supposed to be a private message. Please ignore
>>>> everyone.
>>>
>>> Too late! You invited us!
>>
>> God... that would be a session of note. We'd all show up playing
>> completely different editions, and half of us would be DMs. ;-)
>
>For the most part those who DM have been better players than chronic
>players in my experience. There's always that one glaring exception though.

I... am not. I'm not a bad player, I don't think, but I tend to be
both opinionated and not shy about sharing said opinons (y'all may
have noticed ;-). So when I see a DM making a mistake (or just see
ways they could improve) I offer my advice. Never rudely, rarely to my
own gain... but it can be disruptive. Usually the DM appreciates it
but a twenty minute discussion about world-building and refereeing
does interfere with the gameplay and pacing. ;-)

I am aware of these tendencies and try to control it. But sometimes it
just slips out.

I'm not really a bad player. I'm an okay player, rarely disruptive to
the party, have good ideas and - while I know the rules - generally
don't rules-lawyer my way to success (honestly, most of the time when
I do call out on the rules it's usually to my PCs detriment.). But I
just enjoy DMing a lot more so even when I'm relegated to the ranks I
try to escape back into the big chair. ;-)

On 2/29/2024 8:22 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 06:31:38 -0800, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
> wrote:

>> For the most part those who DM have been better players than chronic
>> players in my experience. There's always that one glaring exception though.
>
> I... am not. I'm not a bad player, I don't think, but I tend to be
> both opinionated and not shy about sharing said opinons (y'all may
> have noticed ;-). So when I see a DM making a mistake (or just see
> ways they could improve) I offer my advice. Never rudely, rarely to my
> own gain... but it can be disruptive. Usually the DM appreciates it
> but a twenty minute discussion about world-building and refereeing
> does interfere with the gameplay and pacing. ;-)
>
> I am aware of these tendencies and try to control it. But sometimes it
> just slips out.
>
> I'm not really a bad player. I'm an okay player, rarely disruptive to
> the party, have good ideas and - while I know the rules - generally
> don't rules-lawyer my way to success (honestly, most of the time when
> I do call out on the rules it's usually to my PCs detriment.). But I
> just enjoy DMing a lot more so even when I'm relegated to the ranks I
> try to escape back into the big chair. ;-)

I'm sure I'd appreciate that. I never really had much trouble from
rules-lawyers either, except one who was both a rules-lawyer, a
power-gamer and refused to lose arguments.

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On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 15:49:17 -0800, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On 2/29/2024 8:22 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>> On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 06:31:38 -0800, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>
>>> For the most part those who DM have been better players than chronic
>>> players in my experience. There's always that one glaring exception though.

>> I'm not really a bad player. I'm an okay player, rarely disruptive to
>> the party, have good ideas and - while I know the rules - generally
>> don't rules-lawyer my way to success (honestly, most of the time when
>> I do call out on the rules it's usually to my PCs detriment.). But I
>> just enjoy DMing a lot more so even when I'm relegated to the ranks I
>> try to escape back into the big chair. ;-)
>
>I'm sure I'd appreciate that. I never really had much trouble from
>rules-lawyers either, except one who was both a rules-lawyer, a
>power-gamer and refused to lose arguments.

Like I said, the DMs (who are also my players in other games) usually
appreciate the advice... but its disruptive and (I think) somewhat
presumptuous of me.

It's not that I'm a bad player; I'm just the exception to the rule
that DMs are better players than players are. ;-)

On 3/1/2024 7:01 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 15:49:17 -0800, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2/29/2024 8:22 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>>> On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 06:31:38 -0800, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>
>>>> For the most part those who DM have been better players than chronic
>>>> players in my experience. There's always that one glaring exception though.
>
>>> I'm not really a bad player. I'm an okay player, rarely disruptive to
>>> the party, have good ideas and - while I know the rules - generally
>>> don't rules-lawyer my way to success (honestly, most of the time when
>>> I do call out on the rules it's usually to my PCs detriment.). But I
>>> just enjoy DMing a lot more so even when I'm relegated to the ranks I
>>> try to escape back into the big chair. ;-)
>>
>> I'm sure I'd appreciate that. I never really had much trouble from
>> rules-lawyers either, except one who was both a rules-lawyer, a
>> power-gamer and refused to lose arguments.
>
> Like I said, the DMs (who are also my players in other games) usually
> appreciate the advice... but its disruptive and (I think) somewhat
> presumptuous of me.
>
> It's not that I'm a bad player; I'm just the exception to the rule
> that DMs are better players than players are. ;-)

I doubt that. I'd rather have an engaged player than one who isn't or is
deliberately pitting other characters against each other (I had 2
different players do that,) or the larger number of people who were more
interested in attempted murder on the rest of the party. I had one
player I let do the rules lawyering for me, looking up stuff, where I
hadn't already rule 0'd it. It was very freeing as I could continue
running the game while he looked up things and he always made pretty
good interpretations. I'm also pretty good at saying something to the
effect of "let's table that for later" if things get too off track about
such, at least as long as you're amenable to that (unlike the rules
lawyer/power gamer problem player I mentioned who wouldn't let anything go.)

I was thinking of one DM I played with for many years, who was greatly
appreciated by all his players. I bought into the hype, but looking
back he was playing favorites with the same rules lawyer/power gamer
letting him get away with stuff that made his character very powerful,
while shooting down anything I tried to do, which made me feel very
redundant to the game, might as well not have been playing at all.

When he joined my game he insisted on playing a 18:00 str half-orc with
3 int/wis without rolling his stats. I finally caved one day as I said
he was well loved and the other players who also played in his game
wanted him to play. That was funny all of 2 minutes, until he
constantly ground everything to a halt with his antics of deliberately
misinterpreting anything that was asked of him by the other players.
Fortunately he quit after the one game, so I didn't have to kick him out.

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spallshurgenson@gmail.com wrote:
>Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>>gmkeros@gmail.com wrote:
>>>On 2/26/2024 1:27 PM, kyonshi wrote:

>>>> By the way I have an short game tonight at 8pm. Hope you don't mind.
>>>> Alex decided to drop another session in on short notice yesterday night.
>>>>
>>>> How are you doing? How was Sammy this morning by the way?
>>>
>>>Argh. That was totally supposed to be a private message. Please ignore
>>>everyone.
>>
>>Too late! You invited us!
>
>God... that would be a session of note. We'd all show up playing
>completely different editions, and half of us would be DMs. ;-)

Is there a record listed in the Guiness Book o World Records? :-)

--
Let's go Brandon!