Subject: Franklin Graham's charity gives 7 armored ambulances to 'Red Shield'
The charity is named Samaritan's Purse and there is an armored ambulance
coincidentally branded Samaritan, although the article didn't say this was
the model given.

Why the name Samaritan? In the charity's name, it could imply 'good
Samaritan' but why would a maker of ambulances market one as
Samaritan? Can Samaritan also imply one who gives medical assistance,
in English?

Dingbat wrote:

> Why the name Samaritan? In the charity's name, it could imply 'good
> Samaritan' but why would a maker of ambulances market one as
> Samaritan? Can Samaritan also imply one who gives medical assistance,
> in English?

It certainly can in Danish ("samaritaner").

--
Bertel, Denmark

On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 5:48:04 PM UTC+5:30, Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
> Dingbat wrote:
>
> > Why the name Samaritan? In the charity's name, it could imply 'good
> > Samaritan' but why would a maker of ambulances market one as
> > Samaritan? Can Samaritan also imply one who gives medical assistance,
> > in English?
> It certainly can in Danish ("samaritaner").
>
Thanks. Cambridge Dictionary has this meaning for Samaritans:
in the UK, an organization you can call if you are very worried about something
and need to talk to someone.
<https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/samaritans>

On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 5:51:21 AM UTC-5, Dingbat wrote:

> Subject: Franklin Graham's charity gives 7 armored ambulances to 'Red Shield'
> The charity is named Samaritan's Purse and there is an armored ambulance
> coincidentally branded Samaritan, although the article didn't say this was
> the model given.
>
> Why the name Samaritan? In the charity's name, it could imply 'good
> Samaritan' but why would a maker of ambulances market one as
> Samaritan? Can Samaritan also imply one who gives medical assistance,
> in English?

In current news stories, a "good samaritan" is anyone who helps the victim
of a crime or a traffic accident etc., quite oblivious to the parable's intent
of showing that the hereditary enemy was the only one of the passers-by
who offered assistance to the victim.

On Fri, 17 Nov 2023 06:37:19 -0800 (PST), "Peter T. Daniels"
<petertdaniels@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 5:51:21?AM UTC-5, Dingbat wrote:
>
>> Subject: Franklin Graham's charity gives 7 armored ambulances to 'Red Shield'
>> The charity is named Samaritan's Purse and there is an armored ambulance
>> coincidentally branded Samaritan, although the article didn't say this was
>> the model given.
>>
>> Why the name Samaritan? In the charity's name, it could imply 'good
>> Samaritan' but why would a maker of ambulances market one as
>> Samaritan? Can Samaritan also imply one who gives medical assistance,
>> in English?
>
>In current news stories, a "good samaritan" is anyone who helps the victim
>of a crime or a traffic accident etc., quite oblivious to the parable's intent
>of showing that the hereditary enemy was the only one of the passers-by
>who offered assistance to the victim.

And in the US, 'good samaritan laws' shield on-hand accident
responders from legal liability. Ngram shows non-zero for that
phrase from 1963 to 2010, with a peak in 1981. "No valid ngrams
to plot" for British English (2019).

I suppose the laws must be working without much controversy
since the peak was followed by a big decline.

--
Rich Ulrich

On 17/11/23 23:17, Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
> Dingbat wrote:
>
>> Why the name Samaritan? In the charity's name, it could imply
>> 'good Samaritan' but why would a maker of ambulances market one as
>> Samaritan? Can Samaritan also imply one who gives medical
>> assistance, in English?
>
> It certainly can in Danish ("samaritaner").

Part of the point of the bible story is that Samaritans were a despised
enemy. Somehow that detail has become lost in modern usage. Probably
because people pick out favourite bible stories without thinking much
about their meaning.

--
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW

On 18/11/2023 12:31 p.m., Peter Moylan wrote:
> On 17/11/23 23:17, Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
>> Dingbat wrote:
>>
>>> Why the name Samaritan? In the charity's name, it could imply
>>> 'good Samaritan' but why would a maker of ambulances market one as
>>> Samaritan? Can Samaritan also imply one who gives medical
>>> assistance, in English?
>>
>> It certainly can in Danish ("samaritaner").
>
> Part of the point of the bible story is that Samaritans were a despised
> enemy. Somehow that detail has become lost in modern usage. Probably
> because people pick out favourite bible stories without thinking much
> about their meaning.

Surely they don't _have_ to think about every aspect of the meaning. The
other part of the point of this story is that the Samaritan acted the
way Jesus thought everyone should -- helped out a stranger just because
he was in trouble. That's the part people today can relate to today,
even if they don't know or care who was who's enemy 2000 years ago.

On 18/11/2023 12:31 p.m., Peter Moylan wrote:
> On 17/11/23 23:17, Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
>> Dingbat wrote:
>>
>>> Why the name Samaritan? In the charity's name, it could imply
>>> 'good Samaritan' but why would a maker of ambulances market one as
>>> Samaritan? Can Samaritan also imply one who gives medical
>>> assistance, in English?
>>
>> It certainly can in Danish ("samaritaner").
>
> Part of the point of the bible story is that Samaritans were a despised
> enemy. Somehow that detail has become lost in modern usage. Probably
> because people pick out favourite bible stories without thinking much
> about their meaning.

Surely they don't _have_ to think about every aspect of the meaning. The
other part of the point of this story is that the Samaritan acted the
way Jesus thought everyone should -- helped out a stranger just because
he was in trouble. That's the part people today can relate to today,
even if they don't know or care who was who's enemy 2000 years ago.

On 2023-11-17 17:31, Peter Moylan wrote:
> On 17/11/23 23:17, Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
>> Dingbat wrote:
>>
>>> Why the name Samaritan? In the charity's name, it could imply
>>> 'good Samaritan' but why would a maker of ambulances market one as
>>> Samaritan? Can Samaritan also imply one who gives medical
>>> assistance, in English?
>>
>> It certainly can in Danish ("samaritaner").
>
> Part of the point of the bible story is that Samaritans were a despised
> enemy. Somehow that detail has become lost in modern usage. Probably
> because people pick out favourite bible stories without thinking much
> about their meaning.

Or, like some of us, having heard the term used, use it ourselves
without having actually read the story.

--
This sentence no verb.

Dingbat wrote:

>>> Samaritan? Can Samaritan also imply one who gives medical assistance,
>>> in English?
>> It certainly can in Danish ("samaritaner").
>>
> Thanks. Cambridge Dictionary has this meaning for Samaritans:
> in the UK, an organization you can call if you are very worried about something
> and need to talk to someone.
> <https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/samaritans>

Small error. "Samaritaner" is a person from that group. "En samarit" is
a sort of paramedic. Here's a webpage where you can se that it's used:

https://www.rodekors.dk/bliv-frivillig/sundhed-samarit-og-foerstehjaelp/samarit-medic

--
Bertel, Denmark

lar3ryca wrote:

> Or, like some of us, having heard the term used, use it ourselves
> without having actually read the story.

I haven't read the story either, but I certainly heard it in school, and
"den barmhjertige samaritaner" (the merciful Samaritan) is an idiomatic
concept, though not often used (anymore).

--
Bertel, Denmark

Who were and are the "Samaritans" of both biblical and contemporary Israel? --

Frankly I'm confused! -- does anybody really know? --

Or is this just all dead semantics?

On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 12:49:29 +1300
Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> wrote:

> On 18/11/2023 12:31 p.m., Peter Moylan wrote:
> > On 17/11/23 23:17, Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
> >> Dingbat wrote:
> >>
> >>> Why the name Samaritan? In the charity's name, it could imply
> >>> 'good Samaritan' but why would a maker of ambulances market one as
> >>> Samaritan? Can Samaritan also imply one who gives medical
> >>> assistance, in English?
> >>
> >> It certainly can in Danish ("samaritaner").
> >
> > Part of the point of the bible story is that Samaritans were a despised
> > enemy. Somehow that detail has become lost in modern usage. Probably
> > because people pick out favourite bible stories without thinking much
> > about their meaning.
>
> Surely they don't _have_ to think about every aspect of the meaning. The
> other part of the point of this story is that the Samaritan acted the
> way Jesus thought everyone should -- helped out a stranger just because
> he was in trouble. That's the part people today can relate to today,

> even if they don't know or care who was who's enemy 2000 years ago.
>
If only more people in the middle east could realise this.

--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 2:37:30 AM UTC-8, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 12:49:29 +1300
> Ross Clark <benl...@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
>
> > On 18/11/2023 12:31 p.m., Peter Moylan wrote:
> > > On 17/11/23 23:17, Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
> > >> Dingbat wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Why the name Samaritan? In the charity's name, it could imply
> > >>> 'good Samaritan' but why would a maker of ambulances market one as
> > >>> Samaritan? Can Samaritan also imply one who gives medical
> > >>> assistance, in English?
> > >>
> > >> It certainly can in Danish ("samaritaner").
> > >
> > > Part of the point of the bible story is that Samaritans were a despised
> > > enemy. Somehow that detail has become lost in modern usage. Probably
> > > because people pick out favourite bible stories without thinking much
> > > about their meaning.
> >
> > Surely they don't _have_ to think about every aspect of the meaning. The
> > other part of the point of this story is that the Samaritan acted the
> > way Jesus thought everyone should -- helped out a stranger just because
> > he was in trouble. That's the part people today can relate to today,
>
> > even if they don't know or care who was who's enemy 2000 years ago.
> >
> If only more people in the middle east could realise this.
>
> --
> Bah, and indeed Humbug.

Sorry but I still don't understand the contemporary LAND references by Israel, Netanyahu, cartographers, et al who constantly invoke and refer to "Judea" and "Samaria"!
Can somebody please answer the damn question contextually and historically how Judea and especially "Samaria" incorporates and figures into the news of Israel today!
Are there actually Samaritans there today or just Jews? Or do I have to look up and define all this stuff by myself? I thought you people were supposed to know this stuff, no?
Thank you!

Samaria is a historical region in the Southern Levant, located between the Sea of Galilee to the north and Judea to the south. It was the capital of the ancient Kingdom of Israel during the 9th and 8th centuries BCE 1. The Kingdom of Israel (Biblical Hebrew: מַמְלֶכֶת יִשְׂרָאֵל‎, romanized: Mamleḵeṯ Yīśrāʾēl), or the Kingdom of Samaria, was an Israelite kingdom in the Southern Levant during the Iron Age. The kingdom controlled the areas of Samaria, Galilee and parts of Transjordan 2. The Hebrew Bible depicts the Kingdom of Israel, also known as the Kingdom of Samaria, as one of two successor states to the United Kingdom of Israel ruled by King David and his son Solomon, the other being the Kingdom of Judah to the south 2.

Also this: What’s the Difference Between Samaria Israel and the Jews?
Names of The 12 Tribes of Israel Two Kingdoms,The Kingdom of Judah and The Kingdom of Israel Separate Gods
Further, the two nations began to serve different Gods. The Jews looked down on them and even referred to them as Gentiles
because of their godlessness. Some people rumor that Samaritans are half-breeds. The Samaritans are not “half-breeds” –
Jeroboam had Israel leave the God of Israel and serve Baalim and this is what the Kingdom of Judah disdained.

Samaria is a historical region in the Southern Levant, located between the Sea of Galilee to the north and Judea to the south. It was the capital of the ancient Kingdom of Israel during the 9th and 8th centuries BCE 1. The Kingdom of Israel (Biblical Hebrew: מַמְלֶכֶת יִשְׂרָאֵל‎, romanized: Mamleḵeṯ Yīśrāʾēl), or the Kingdom of Samaria, was an Israelite kingdom in the Southern Levant during the Iron Age. The kingdom controlled the areas of Samaria, Galilee and parts of Transjordan 2. The Hebrew Bible depicts the Kingdom of Israel, also known as the Kingdom of Samaria, as one of two successor states to the United Kingdom of Israel ruled by King David and his son Solomon, the other being the Kingdom of Judah to the south 2.

The Jews, on the other hand, are a people who trace their ancestry to the ancient Israelites, who settled in the land of Israel around 4000 years ago. The Jews are divided into two main groups: the Ashkenazi Jews and the Sephardic Jews. The Ashkenazi Jews are of European origin, while the Sephardic Jews are of Middle Eastern and North African origin 2.

The Kingdom of Judah was one of the two successor states to the United Kingdom of Israel, the other being the Kingdom of Israel (also known as the Kingdom of Samaria) 2. The Kingdom of Judah was located in the southern part of the land of Israel, with Jerusalem as its capital 2.

It is true that the Jews and Samaritans had a long-standing animosity towards each other. The Samaritans were a people who lived in the region of Samaria and were considered by the Jews to be heretics. The Samaritans believed in the God of Israel but had their own version of the Torah and their own temple on Mount Gerizim 2. The Jews, on the other hand, believed that the only legitimate place of worship was the Temple in Jerusalem 2. The animosity between the two groups can be traced back to the Assyrian conquest of the Kingdom of Israel in 722 BCE, when the Assyrians deported many Israelites and brought in foreign settlers to the region 2. The Jews saw the Samaritans as a mixed race of people who had intermarried with the foreign settlers and had adopted their pagan practices 2.

It is important to note that the Samaritans are not “half-breeds” as some people have rumored.

But do you know what this all proves? -- that no matter how hard you try, man has the extraordinary ability to distinguish (if not literally hallucinate) the subtlest of differences that may or may not be there.