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GG sci.crypt is now read only.

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From: stefan.claas@iris.to (Stefan Claas)
Newsgroups: sci.crypt
Subject: GG sci.crypt is now read only.
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2023 19:04:51 +0100
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by: Stefan Claas - Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:04 UTC

Hi all,

I have just noticed that one can no longer post
from within GG to sci.crypt. The start new conversation
button is not highlighted in the WWW interface.

Best regards
Stefan
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Subject: Re: GG sci.crypt is now read only.
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by: Richard Harnden - Sun, 12 Nov 2023 23:58 UTC

On 12/11/2023 18:04, Stefan Claas wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have just noticed that one can no longer post
> from within GG to sci.crypt. The start new conversation
> button is not highlighted in the WWW interface.
>

This is GG's lame attempt at stopping the spam flood.

Apparently some groups now have a captcha test, but most are still
allowing the bots to spam willy-nilly.

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Newsgroups: sci.crypt
Subject: Re: GG sci.crypt is now read only.
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by: Rich - Mon, 13 Nov 2023 04:44 UTC

Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> wrote:
> On 12/11/2023 18:04, Stefan Claas wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have just noticed that one can no longer post
>> from within GG to sci.crypt. The start new conversation
>> button is not highlighted in the WWW interface.
>>
>
> This is GG's lame attempt at stopping the spam flood.
>
> Apparently some groups now have a captcha test, but most are still
> allowing the bots to spam willy-nilly.

So someone at google finally noticed and is doing something, even if it
is lame. Better they finally start to do something than the flood
continue for even more years.

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From: mm+solani@dorfdsl.de (Marco Moock)
Newsgroups: sci.crypt
Subject: Re: GG sci.crypt is now read only.
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2023 10:36:53 +0100
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by: Marco Moock - Mon, 13 Nov 2023 09:36 UTC

Am 12.11.2023 um 19:04:51 Uhr schrieb Stefan Claas:

> I have just noticed that one can no longer post
> from within GG to sci.crypt. The start new conversation
> button is not highlighted in the WWW interface.

For those who are interested in posting on-topic, you can get free NNTP
access from eternal-september.org or solani.org

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From: chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com (Chris M. Thomasson)
Newsgroups: sci.crypt
Subject: Re: GG sci.crypt is now read only.
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by: Chris M. Thomasson - Mon, 13 Nov 2023 21:37 UTC

On 11/12/2023 8:44 PM, Rich wrote:
> Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> wrote:
>> On 12/11/2023 18:04, Stefan Claas wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I have just noticed that one can no longer post
>>> from within GG to sci.crypt. The start new conversation
>>> button is not highlighted in the WWW interface.
>>>
>>
>> This is GG's lame attempt at stopping the spam flood.
>>
>> Apparently some groups now have a captcha test, but most are still
>> allowing the bots to spam willy-nilly.
>
> So someone at google finally noticed and is doing something, even if it
> is lame. Better they finally start to do something than the flood
> continue for even more years.

Big time!

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by: Leo - Mon, 18 Dec 2023 08:46 UTC

On Sun, 12 Nov 2023 19:04:51 +0100, Stefan Claas wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I have just noticed that one can no longer post from within GG to
> sci.crypt. The start new conversation button is not highlighted in the
> WWW interface.
>
> Best regards Stefan

Man, what a drastic difference. Pretty much 0 spam on the newsgroup as
soon as this was disabled. Seems the Google Groups line on the killfile
was doing most of the work. For now this is pretty usable without spam
filters or killfiles, what a breath of fresh air.

--
Leo

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by: Richard Harnden - Mon, 18 Dec 2023 18:04 UTC

On 18/12/2023 08:46, Leo wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Nov 2023 19:04:51 +0100, Stefan Claas wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have just noticed that one can no longer post from within GG to
>> sci.crypt. The start new conversation button is not highlighted in the
>> WWW interface.
>>
>> Best regards Stefan
>
> Man, what a drastic difference. Pretty much 0 spam on the newsgroup as
> soon as this was disabled. Seems the Google Groups line on the killfile
> was doing most of the work. For now this is pretty usable without spam
> filters or killfiles, what a breath of fresh air.
>

In even better news:

<https://support.google.com/groups/answer/11036538>

So ... rather than do anything about all the spam from G2, they have
decided to de-peer themselves.

It will be a shame to lose the DejaNews archives - becuase that'll be
the next thing they'll fail to maintain and eventually switch-off
completely. They already broke the search years ago, so you could never
find anything anyway.

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by: Rich - Tue, 19 Dec 2023 03:48 UTC

Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> wrote:
> On 18/12/2023 08:46, Leo wrote:
>> On Sun, 12 Nov 2023 19:04:51 +0100, Stefan Claas wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I have just noticed that one can no longer post from within GG to
>>> sci.crypt. The start new conversation button is not highlighted in the
>>> WWW interface.
>>>
>>> Best regards Stefan
>>
>> Man, what a drastic difference. Pretty much 0 spam on the newsgroup as
>> soon as this was disabled. Seems the Google Groups line on the killfile
>> was doing most of the work. For now this is pretty usable without spam
>> filters or killfiles, what a breath of fresh air.
>>
>
> In even better news:
>
> <https://support.google.com/groups/answer/11036538>
>
> So ... rather than do anything about all the spam from G2, they have
> decided to de-peer themselves.
>
> It will be a shame to lose the DejaNews archives - becuase that'll be
> the next thing they'll fail to maintain and eventually switch-off
> completely. They already broke the search years ago, so you could never
> find anything anyway.

Current DoubleClick [1] is not concerned with it unless it can be
monetized for ad revenue and/or user tracking revenue. Usenet news
groups and the archives are very hard to monetize in any profitable
way. So yes, expect the archive to eventually disappear too.

[1] aka Google - some years ago Google purportedly purchased
Doubleclick, reality is that Doubleclick took over google and the old
"don't be evil" google was taken out behind the woodshed and shot dead.
It (old google) no longer exists, and the thing calling itself google
today is just doubleclick in google clothing.

You can't cheat the phone company.

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devel / sci.crypt / GG sci.crypt is now read only.

Subject	Author
GG sci.crypt is now read only.	Stefan Claas
GG sci.crypt is now read only.	Richard Harnden
GG sci.crypt is now read only.	Rich
GG sci.crypt is now read only.	Chris M. Thomasson
GG sci.crypt is now read only.	Marco Moock
GG sci.crypt is now read only.	Leo
GG sci.crypt is now read only.	Richard Harnden
GG sci.crypt is now read only.	Rich