This morning I booted up only to find a non responsive keyboard
No keyboard lights and not able to type in password
The mouse is working so I rebooted and tried to enter the bios but any
input was ignored and the box booted on into the login screen

I tried the keyboard in different USB ports with no results
So my thoughts went to faulty keyboard and a shopping trip for a new one

Then I remembered the old WIN-10 box in the spare room.

I swapped all the necessary cables over to the WIN box and booted up and
got a functioning keyboard -- "OK"!! do I have a faulty motherboard?

I switched the cables back to the Mag-8 box and the keyboard works.

So, fault finding logic has flown up its own fundament and I face an
infuriating intermittent.

I am reminded of the quote-

Those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad

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faeychild
Running plasmashell 5.20.4 on 5.15.74-desktop-1.mga8 kernel.
Mageia release 8 (Official) for x86_64 installed via Mageia-8-x86_64-DVD.iso

On 11/20/22 14:40, faeychild wrote:
>
> This morning I booted up only to find a non responsive keyboard
> No keyboard lights and  not able to type in password
> The mouse is working so I rebooted and tried to enter the bios but any
> input was ignored and the box booted on into the login screen
>
> I tried the keyboard in different USB ports with no results
> So my thoughts went to faulty keyboard and a shopping trip for a new one
>
> Then I remembered the old WIN-10 box in the spare room.
>
> I swapped all the necessary cables over to the WIN box and booted up and
> got a functioning keyboard -- "OK"!! do I have a faulty motherboard?
>
> I switched the cables back to the Mag-8 box and the keyboard works.
>
>
> So, fault finding logic has flown up its own fundament and I face an
> infuriating intermittent.
>
>  I am reminded of the quote-
>
> Those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad

You have neglected the usual appeasing sacrifices to the Binary
Gods and they have decided to change your mind and thus the keyboard
works on one machine and then does not, then works on another machine
and begins to work again on the original machine. Why? The Binary Gods
have it in for you. Please don't use black roosters at midnight but
maybe very dark chocolate every day. 0 or 1

bliss -“Nearly any fool can use a GNU/Linux computer. Many do.”
After all here I am... Again...

--
bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com

On 21.11.2022 at 09:40, faeychild scribbled:

> This morning I booted up only to find a non responsive keyboard
> No keyboard lights and not able to type in password
> The mouse is working so I rebooted and tried to enter the bios but
> any input was ignored and the box booted on into the login screen
>
> I tried the keyboard in different USB ports with no results
> So my thoughts went to faulty keyboard and a shopping trip for a new
> one
>
> Then I remembered the old WIN-10 box in the spare room.
>
> I swapped all the necessary cables over to the WIN box and booted up
> and got a functioning keyboard -- "OK"!! do I have a faulty
> motherboard?
>
> I switched the cables back to the Mag-8 box and the keyboard works.

There are a few possibilities...:

1. The cable plug had come loose in the port - i.e. moved just out
of range a little bit from where it ought to sit when properly
plugged in — I had that happen with my mouse a few months ago.
USB ports are hotplug-ready so taking the plug out and plugging
it back in would have remedied the system, provided that it is
indeed a USB keyboard. PS/2 ports are not capable of hotplugging
— anyone who tells you that it worked for them was playing with
fire, because by the same token, you blow the fuse — they were
not designed for that.

2. The cable is faulty/broken somewhere along its length and
intermittently works. By unplugging the keyboard and plugging it
into another computer, you got it to work again, on both machines,
but it's only a matter of time before it happens again.

3. Same thing as here-above, but it's the port itself that's faulty,
and thus by consequence, the motherboard.

--
With respect,
= Aragorn

On 21/11/22 12:45, Aragorn wrote:

>
>
> 1. The cable plug had come loose in the port - i.e. moved just out
> of range a little bit from where it ought to sit when properly
> plugged in — I had that happen with my mouse a few months ago.
> USB ports are hotplug-ready so taking the plug out and plugging
> it back in would have remedied the system, provided that it is
> indeed a USB keyboard. PS/2 ports are not capable of hotplugging
> — anyone who tells you that it worked for them was playing with
> fire, because by the same token, you blow the fuse — they were
> not designed for that.

I believe that my first test this morning of trying a different USB port
eliminated this probability

>
> 2. The cable is faulty/broken somewhere along its length and
> intermittently works. By unplugging the keyboard and plugging it
> into another computer, you got it to work again, on both machines,
> but it's only a matter of time before it happens again.

The mouse continued to work no matter where it was plugged but the
keyboard didn't. The broken cable theory might fly. I should get a new
keyboard and standby :-)

>
> 3. Same thing as here-above, but it's the port itself that's faulty,
> and thus by consequence, the motherboard.

As above, trying different USB ports on the Mag-8 box did not clear the
problem

We have been running fine all day and a couple of test reboots and
shutdowns did not trigger anything.
Overnight temp last night was 8' deg.
Maybe I should check all motherboard plugs, something is working lose

Regards

--
faeychild
Running plasmashell 5.20.4 on 5.15.74-desktop-1.mga8 kernel.
Mageia release 8 (Official) for x86_64 installed via Mageia-8-x86_64-DVD.iso

On 21/11/22 11:45, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

>
>     You have neglected the usual appeasing sacrifices to the Binary
> Gods and they have decided to change your mind and thus the keyboard
> works on one machine and then does not, then works on another machine
> and begins to work again on the original machine.  Why? The Binary Gods
> have it in for you.  Please don't use black roosters at midnight but
> maybe very dark chocolate every day.  0 or 1
>
>    bliss -“Nearly any fool can use a GNU/Linux computer. Many do.”
>         After all here I  am...   Again...
>

I have a deep and abiding mistrust of gods, if they exist at all

But I do believe in chocolate ...mmmm

Regards

--
faeychild
Running plasmashell 5.20.4 on 5.15.74-desktop-1.mga8 kernel.
Mageia release 8 (Official) for x86_64 installed via Mageia-8-x86_64-DVD.iso

On 21/11/22 09:40, faeychild wrote:
>
> This morning I booted up only to find a non responsive keyboard
> No keyboard lights and  not able to type in password
> The mouse is working so I rebooted and tried to enter the bios but any
> input was ignored and the box booted on into the login screen

OK it is the keyboard

Had the same thing this morning but didn't work in the other box this time

So I left Mag-08 running for a cup of coffee running and when I got back
and rebooted - it's fine.
There must be billions of keyboards floating round them world and non of
them here - pity.

--
faeychild
Running plasmashell 5.20.4 on 5.15.74-desktop-1.mga8 kernel.
Mageia release 8 (Official) for x86_64 installed via Mageia-8-x86_64-DVD.iso