I see that a LiveCD of Mageia 9 alpha1 is available on LinuxTracker.

On Sun, 13 Nov 2022 20:47:16 +1100, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
> I see that a LiveCD of Mageia 9 alpha1 is available on LinuxTracker.

And mirrors are getting new alpha1 isos, for example See:
https://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/mageia/iso/cauldron/

On 2022-11-13 04:47, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
> I see that a LiveCD of Mageia 9 alpha1 is available on LinuxTracker.

You can also get it here:

https://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/prerelease/

Remember, it's an alpha, so bugs are expected. That's the main reason
for the release - to identify bugs we don't know about yet.

TJ

On Sun, 13 Nov 2022 07:52:00 -0500, Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Nov 2022 20:47:16 +1100, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
>> I see that a LiveCD of Mageia 9 alpha1 is available on LinuxTracker.
> And mirrors are getting new alpha1 isos, for example See:
> https://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/mageia/iso/cauldron/

Also available from https://www.mageia.org/en-gb/downloads/alternative/#Cauldron

Regards, Dave Hodgins

On 14/11/22 01:38, David W. Hodgins wrote:
> Also available from
> https://www.mageia.org/en-gb/downloads/alternative/#Cauldron
>
> Regards, Dave Hodgins

That is where I expected to find it. The one in LinuxTracker was
probably put there by a user.

On 14/11/22 00:25, TJ wrote:
> On 2022-11-13 04:47, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
>> I see that a LiveCD of Mageia 9 alpha1 is available on LinuxTracker.
>
> You can also get it here:
>
>  https://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/prerelease/
>
> Remember, it's an alpha, so bugs are expected. That's the main reason
> for the release - to identify bugs we don't know about yet.
>
> TJ
Understood. I noticed that on the mirrors, there seem to be liveCDs AND
normal ISOs.

On Sun, 13 Nov 2022 16:03:33 -0500, Doug Laidlaw <laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> wrote:

> On 14/11/22 00:25, TJ wrote:
>> On 2022-11-13 04:47, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
>>> I see that a LiveCD of Mageia 9 alpha1 is available on LinuxTracker.
>>
>> You can also get it here:
>>
>> https://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/prerelease/
>>
>> Remember, it's an alpha, so bugs are expected. That's the main reason
>> for the release - to identify bugs we don't know about yet.
>>
>> TJ
> Understood. I noticed that on the mirrors, there seem to be liveCDs AND
> normal ISOs.

https://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/prerelease/ has classic and live too.

The live are dvd as they are too large for a cd. The only iso that can go
on a cd are the network iso images.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

David W. Hodgins wrote on 14/11/22 8:24 am:
> On Sun, 13 Nov 2022 16:03:33 -0500, Doug Laidlaw
> <laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> wrote:

<Snip>

>> Understood.  I noticed that on the mirrors, there seem to be liveCDs AND
>> normal  ISOs.
>
> https://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/prerelease/ has classic and live too.
>
> The live are dvd as they are too large for a cd. The only iso that can go
> on a cd are the network iso images.
>
> Regards, Dave Hodgins

Dave, do you guys have any idea when the 9.0 Final might be available??

The New Year, maybe, or Easter'ish??
--
Daniel

On Sun, 13 Nov 2022 23:25:03 -0500, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> Dave, do you guys have any idea when the 9.0 Final might be available??
> The New Year, maybe, or Easter'ish??

The schedule will be reviewed once we have a better idea how many problems
are found with the first alpha and how serious they are.

Off hand I expect it will sometime in January or February, but it depends
a lot on what problems are found in alpha 1 testing.

Testing upgrades from Mageia 8 to 9 and getting any problems found fixed will
likely be a lot of the time needed based on past experience.

There are still around 350 packages from Mageia 8 that are failing to build on
Mageia 9 that either have to be fixed or dropped.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

On 14/11/22 08:24, David W. Hodgins wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Nov 2022 16:03:33 -0500, Doug Laidlaw
> <laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> wrote:
>
>> On 14/11/22 00:25, TJ wrote:
>>> On 2022-11-13 04:47, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
>>>> I see that a LiveCD of Mageia 9 alpha1 is available on LinuxTracker.
>>>
>>> You can also get it here:
>>>
>>>   https://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/prerelease/
>>>
>>> Remember, it's an alpha, so bugs are expected. That's the main reason
>>> for the release - to identify bugs we don't know about yet.
>>>
>>> TJ
>> Understood.  I noticed that on the mirrors, there seem to be liveCDs AND
>> normal  ISOs.
>
> https://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/prerelease/ has classic and live too.
>
> The live are dvd as they are too large for a cd. The only iso that can go
> on a cd are the network iso images.
>
> Regards, Dave Hodgins

Yes, they are about 4.7 GiB, but there were two items that seemed to be
normal ISOs. KDE is still trying to be as repulsive as possible.
Unlike Windows, there is no way they can force me to use it.

On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 22:24:34 +1100, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
> On 14/11/22 08:24, David W. Hodgins wrote:
>> On Sun, 13 Nov 2022 16:03:33 -0500, Doug Laidlaw
>> <laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> wrote:
>>
>>> On 14/11/22 00:25, TJ wrote:
>>>> On 2022-11-13 04:47, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
>>>>> I see that a LiveCD of Mageia 9 alpha1 is available on LinuxTracker.
>>>>
>>>> You can also get it here:
>>>>
>>>>   https://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/prerelease/
>>>>
>>>> Remember, it's an alpha, so bugs are expected. That's the main reason
>>>> for the release - to identify bugs we don't know about yet.
>>>>
>>>> TJ
>>> Understood.  I noticed that on the mirrors, there seem to be liveCDs AND
>>> normal  ISOs.
>>
>> https://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/prerelease/ has classic and live too.
>>
>> The live are dvd as they are too large for a cd. The only iso that can go
>> on a cd are the network iso images.
>>
>> Regards, Dave Hodgins
>
> Yes, they are about 4.7 GiB, but there were two items that seemed to be
> normal ISOs. KDE is still trying to be as repulsive as possible.
> Unlike Windows, there is no way they can force me to use it.

And if you want the newest and improvedest net install images qthere is
https://mirrors.kernel.org/mageia/distrib/9/x86_64/install/images/

David W. Hodgins wrote on 14/11/22 4:28 pm:
> On Sun, 13 Nov 2022 23:25:03 -0500, Daniel65
> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> Dave, do you guys have any idea when the 9.0 Final might be
>> available?? The New Year, maybe, or Easter'ish??
>
> The schedule will be reviewed once we have a better idea how many
> problems are found with the first alpha and how serious they are.

Understood.
>
> Off hand I expect it will sometime in January or February, but it
> depends a lot on what problems are found in alpha 1 testing.

Thank you very much!!
>
> Testing upgrades from Mageia 8 to 9 and getting any problems found
> fixed will likely be a lot of the time needed based on past
> experience.
>
> There are still around 350 packages from Mageia 8 that are failing to
> build on Mageia 9 that either have to be fixed or dropped.
>
> Regards, Dave Hodgins

Thank you.
--
Daniel

On 2022-11-14 06:24, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
>
> Yes, they are about 4.7 GiB, but there were two items that seemed to be
> normal ISOs.  KDE is still trying to be as repulsive as possible. Unlike
> Windows, there is no way they can force me to use it.

I asked the developer that puts the isos together about how the size of
the Lives has grown, and he told me much of that is coming from the
"nonfree" firmware needed for hardware, both new and older, to function
with them in Live mode. In particular he blamed new firmware from
nVidia, but that's not the only culprit.

As for Plasma, well, to each his own. I still like it with Mageia 8, but
that may be because I prefer to make the effort to learn how to work
with it than to make the effort to learn how to like Xfce. I dislike
Gnome with a passion, though some Gnome apps are OK.

Or maybe it's because I've been using KDE/Plasma since starting Linux
with Mandrake over 20 years ago, and I'm just used to it.

TJ

On Tue, 15 Nov 2022 08:42:57 -0500, TJ wrote:

> As for Plasma, well, to each his own. I still like it with Mageia 8, but
> that may be because I prefer to make the effort to learn how to work
> with it than to make the effort to learn how to like Xfce. I dislike
> Gnome with a passion, though some Gnome apps are OK.
>

Yep, got tired of plasma buld and slow speed and switched to Xfce and
made it look/feel like the older kde. Only ting I miss is the holiday
schedule in the clock/calendar app.

Using geany as my file editor.

On 2022-11-15, Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Nov 2022 08:42:57 -0500, TJ wrote:
>
>> As for Plasma, well, to each his own. I still like it with Mageia 8, but
>> that may be because I prefer to make the effort to learn how to work
>> with it than to make the effort to learn how to like Xfce. I dislike
>> Gnome with a passion, though some Gnome apps are OK.
>>
>
> Yep, got tired of plasma buld and slow speed and switched to Xfce and
> made it look/feel like the older kde. Only ting I miss is the holiday
> schedule in the clock/calendar app.
>
> Using geany as my file editor.

Still using vi (vim) since I am constantly editing stuff on machines
which are remote from me (eg this note is being composed on one 4000km
away) and X is just horrendously slow over the net.
Why vi? Because I learned it first and do not have the time to
waste learning, say, emacs, is probably the reason.

On 11/15/22 05:42, TJ wrote:
> On 2022-11-14 06:24, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
>>
>> Yes, they are about 4.7 GiB, but there were two items that seemed to
>> be normal ISOs.  KDE is still trying to be as repulsive as possible.
>> Unlike Windows, there is no way they can force me to use it.
>
> I asked the developer that puts the isos together about how the size of
> the Lives has grown, and he told me much of that is coming from the
> "nonfree" firmware needed for hardware, both new and older, to function
> with them in Live mode. In particular he blamed new firmware from
> nVidia, but that's not the only culprit.
>
> As for Plasma, well, to each his own. I still like it with Mageia 8, but
> that may be because I prefer to make the effort to learn how to work
> with it than to make the effort to learn how to like Xfce. I dislike
> Gnome with a passion, though some Gnome apps are OK.
>
> Or maybe it's because I've been using KDE/Plasma since starting Linux
> with Mandrake over 20 years ago, and I'm just used to it.
>
> TJ

While I was using Mandriva in one of the good years I tried Gnome 2.4
and it was ok but the tools were not as reliable as those
under KDE 3.5.x. I have tried to help people with Gnome after 3.2 and
it was very difficult for me to use. I am currently happy with KDE's
Plasma 5.26.3 on my PCLinuxOS.

bliss
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