lørdag den 29. april 2023 kl. 21.54.16 UTC+2 skrev Louis Ohland:
> You must have aching legs, pedaling that home...
>
> Link to Gooble Park?
>
> I'm curious, blue, this should be interesting with a SCSI2D as the sole
> IML device. Interesting, I wonder what set and view SCSI configuration says.
>
> If you can score on a pair of AT drive rails, they should be a slam-dunk
> to screw on.
>
> Drive retainer, the full width/height ventilated metal piece under the
> front bezel?
>
> FRUs for bezels have changed over the years. So we'll start with some
> common ones, then you can do Gooble-Foo...
>
> 9585, 8595, 9595, and 95A use identical dimensioned floppy bezels. I am
> sure there are even older 8595 XP486 FRUs for the floppy bezels...
>
> https://www.ardent-tool.com/docs/pdf/ps2-hmm.pdf
>
> About page 290, physical
>
> 85/95
> Blank Diskette Drive Bezel 33F8437
> 3.5-Inch Diskette Drive Bezel 33F8426
>
> 95A
> Diskette Drive Blank Bezel 71G5001
> 3.5-Inch Diskette Drive Bezel 71G5000
> > Finally got he machine home after testing it with the seller, there are no errors on the machine :-)
> > What a long trip on my tricycle, and I also forgot my helmet - thanks for the reminder :-))
> >
> > There are something rotten in the state of Denmark...the drive retainer under the front bezel is missing,
> > I could see that straight away - and the bezel for the floppy drive is for a model 76/77, it has got this
> > fru number.: 92F1598. - Don´t know if it is possible to find the retainer or floppy bezel.
> > Also missing a couple of other bezels - Is it possible to find out the partnumbers for them ?.
> > I have looked at http://ps-2.kev009.com/eprmhtml/eprm/h185.htm but i am not sure which ones are
> > the right ones for the front bezel..??.
> >
> > The cdrom drive has no rails, it just loosely placed on the drive tray
> >
> > The Scsi2SD has also been tested, and it works fine with the SCSI controller, there were no problems
> > booting the machine with that one. the Scsi2SD is now configurated as 2 scsi drives ( ID6 and ID5 )
> > In the SCSI menu on the machine it shows up like 2 physical drives, with 2GB each.
> > Dos has been installed on C-drive.
> >
> > The seller was very honest about the missing things, and we agreed on a lower price.
> > I got a model 50z and an extra planar for that one, and also a 3Com Network card Rj45
> > for $ 330,- he was happy to know they will get a good home.
> >
> > I have placed some new Danish picsXXX in the Google drive
> >
> > Going to clean the machine outside and inside tomorrow
> >

The legs are very aching....but I had tailwind on my way home...

Link to Google drive.: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1dBXmlRLZ_GIJYHU9oYTAwM-BDjwcsVcz?usp=sharing

It is the full drive retainer that is missing...

I have got a box of AT-drive rails, I will have a look and see if I can find a pair.

Was looking in my PS/2 box and found a 1.2MB floppy drive ( 64F4102 )complete with rails and front bezel,
I have tested it and it isworking.
I could perhaps install that one too in the machine - but do I need a floppy controller since it uses standard floppy cable ?.
Had a look at this one..https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/155527262119?hash=item243625afa7:g:LaEAAOSwoKxkS~FO
He has got some floppy controllers..

Oh, that's worse than I thought. SCSI2SD in Bay B, cool.

I couldn't sendt a retainer for any sensible price, it is way too long...

Drive Retainer 64F4135

Used in 8595, 9585, 9595, 95A, 3511 and most likely 3517.

Carsten Lyng wrote:
> lørdag den 29. april 2023 kl. 21.54.16 UTC+2 skrev Louis Ohland:
>> You must have aching legs, pedaling that home...
>>
>> Link to Gooble Park?
>>
>> I'm curious, blue, this should be interesting with a SCSI2D as the sole
>> IML device. Interesting, I wonder what set and view SCSI configuration says.
>>
>> If you can score on a pair of AT drive rails, they should be a slam-dunk
>> to screw on.
>>
>> Drive retainer, the full width/height ventilated metal piece under the
>> front bezel?
>>
>> FRUs for bezels have changed over the years. So we'll start with some
>> common ones, then you can do Gooble-Foo...
>>
>> 9585, 8595, 9595, and 95A use identical dimensioned floppy bezels. I am
>> sure there are even older 8595 XP486 FRUs for the floppy bezels...
>>
>> https://www.ardent-tool.com/docs/pdf/ps2-hmm.pdf
>>
>> About page 290, physical
>>
>> 85/95
>> Blank Diskette Drive Bezel 33F8437
>> 3.5-Inch Diskette Drive Bezel 33F8426
>>
>> 95A
>> Diskette Drive Blank Bezel 71G5001
>> 3.5-Inch Diskette Drive Bezel 71G5000
>>> Finally got he machine home after testing it with the seller, there are no errors on the machine :-)
>>> What a long trip on my tricycle, and I also forgot my helmet - thanks for the reminder :-))
>>>
>>> There are something rotten in the state of Denmark...the drive retainer under the front bezel is missing,
>>> I could see that straight away - and the bezel for the floppy drive is for a model 76/77, it has got this
>>> fru number.: 92F1598. - Don´t know if it is possible to find the retainer or floppy bezel.
>>> Also missing a couple of other bezels - Is it possible to find out the partnumbers for them ?.
>>> I have looked at http://ps-2.kev009.com/eprmhtml/eprm/h185.htm but i am not sure which ones are
>>> the right ones for the front bezel..??.
>>>
>>> The cdrom drive has no rails, it just loosely placed on the drive tray
>>>
>>> The Scsi2SD has also been tested, and it works fine with the SCSI controller, there were no problems
>>> booting the machine with that one. the Scsi2SD is now configurated as 2 scsi drives ( ID6 and ID5 )
>>> In the SCSI menu on the machine it shows up like 2 physical drives, with 2GB each.
>>> Dos has been installed on C-drive.
>>>
>>> The seller was very honest about the missing things, and we agreed on a lower price.
>>> I got a model 50z and an extra planar for that one, and also a 3Com Network card Rj45
>>> for $ 330,- he was happy to know they will get a good home.
>>>
>>> I have placed some new Danish picsXXX in the Google drive
>>>
>>> Going to clean the machine outside and inside tomorrow
>>>
>
> The legs are very aching....but I had tailwind on my way home...
>
> Link to Google drive.: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1dBXmlRLZ_GIJYHU9oYTAwM-BDjwcsVcz?usp=sharing
>
> It is the full drive retainer that is missing...
>
> I have got a box of AT-drive rails, I will have a look and see if I can find a pair.
>
> Was looking in my PS/2 box and found a 1.2MB floppy drive ( 64F4102 )complete with rails and front bezel,
> I have tested it and it isworking.
> I could perhaps install that one too in the machine - but do I need a floppy controller since it uses standard floppy cable ?.
> Had a look at this one..https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/155527262119?hash=item243625afa7:g:LaEAAOSwoKxkS~FO
> He has got some floppy controllers..
>

https://www.ebay.com/itm/144205843886

You can do better for price, but the look like this. You can whack them
down to size.

https://www.ardent-tool.com/85_95/Common.html#5-25_Dimensions

Carsten Lyng wrote:
> lørdag den 29. april 2023 kl. 21.54.16 UTC+2 skrev Louis Ohland:
>> You must have aching legs, pedaling that home...
>>
>> Link to Gooble Park?
>>
>> I'm curious, blue, this should be interesting with a SCSI2D as the sole
>> IML device. Interesting, I wonder what set and view SCSI configuration says.
>>
>> If you can score on a pair of AT drive rails, they should be a slam-dunk
>> to screw on.
>>
>> Drive retainer, the full width/height ventilated metal piece under the
>> front bezel?
>>
>> FRUs for bezels have changed over the years. So we'll start with some
>> common ones, then you can do Gooble-Foo...
>>
>> 9585, 8595, 9595, and 95A use identical dimensioned floppy bezels. I am
>> sure there are even older 8595 XP486 FRUs for the floppy bezels...
>>
>> https://www.ardent-tool.com/docs/pdf/ps2-hmm.pdf
>>
>> About page 290, physical
>>
>> 85/95
>> Blank Diskette Drive Bezel 33F8437
>> 3.5-Inch Diskette Drive Bezel 33F8426
>>
>> 95A
>> Diskette Drive Blank Bezel 71G5001
>> 3.5-Inch Diskette Drive Bezel 71G5000
>>> Finally got he machine home after testing it with the seller, there are no errors on the machine :-)
>>> What a long trip on my tricycle, and I also forgot my helmet - thanks for the reminder :-))
>>>
>>> There are something rotten in the state of Denmark...the drive retainer under the front bezel is missing,
>>> I could see that straight away - and the bezel for the floppy drive is for a model 76/77, it has got this
>>> fru number.: 92F1598. - Don´t know if it is possible to find the retainer or floppy bezel.
>>> Also missing a couple of other bezels - Is it possible to find out the partnumbers for them ?.
>>> I have looked at http://ps-2.kev009.com/eprmhtml/eprm/h185.htm but i am not sure which ones are
>>> the right ones for the front bezel..??.
>>>
>>> The cdrom drive has no rails, it just loosely placed on the drive tray
>>>
>>> The Scsi2SD has also been tested, and it works fine with the SCSI controller, there were no problems
>>> booting the machine with that one. the Scsi2SD is now configurated as 2 scsi drives ( ID6 and ID5 )
>>> In the SCSI menu on the machine it shows up like 2 physical drives, with 2GB each.
>>> Dos has been installed on C-drive.
>>>
>>> The seller was very honest about the missing things, and we agreed on a lower price.
>>> I got a model 50z and an extra planar for that one, and also a 3Com Network card Rj45
>>> for $ 330,- he was happy to know they will get a good home.
>>>
>>> I have placed some new Danish picsXXX in the Google drive
>>>
>>> Going to clean the machine outside and inside tomorrow
>>>
>
> The legs are very aching....but I had tailwind on my way home...
>
> Link to Google drive.: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1dBXmlRLZ_GIJYHU9oYTAwM-BDjwcsVcz?usp=sharing
>
> It is the full drive retainer that is missing...
>
> I have got a box of AT-drive rails, I will have a look and see if I can find a pair.
>
> Was looking in my PS/2 box and found a 1.2MB floppy drive ( 64F4102 )complete with rails and front bezel,
> I have tested it and it isworking.
> I could perhaps install that one too in the machine - but do I need a floppy controller since it uses standard floppy cable ?.
> Had a look at this one..https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/155527262119?hash=item243625afa7:g:LaEAAOSwoKxkS~FO
> He has got some floppy controllers..
>

fredag den 28. april 2023 kl. 19.40.26 UTC+2 skrev Louis Ohland:
> Definately an "H". Uses Complex BIOS 07G0463, usually associated with
> 92F1428 DMA Ctrl
>
> There is a difference between being able to "see" 2,048MB, and being
> able to IML off a SCSI drive bigger than 1,023MB [>1GB].
>
> The OP did not take a pic of the SCSI w/cache, but I do see a yellow
> termpack, which suggests a three oscillator SPOCK. The transorb and
> termpack and cache are ONLY seen on the latest SPOCK. So the SCSI
> adapter has the 44/45 SCSI BIOS, and CAN use up to 3.94GB drives as IML
> sources.
>
> https://www.ardent-tool.com/complex/T2.html#IML_Over_1GB
> Type 2 complexes require the combination of BIOS 41G9361 and SCSI BIOS
> 92F2244/45 in order to handle IML drives >1GB (new limit is 3.94GB). The
> upgrade BIOS incorporates the "Enhanced IML" which supports IML from a
> drive >1GB and "Search IML" which allows IML from a drive other than
> ID6. The SCSI BIOS 44/45 pair supports drives well over 8GB. (Ed. Your
> OS may have other ideas...)
>
> Does the CD have rails screwed on to it?
>
> There is a HD sled in the bottom bay.
>
> Inside looks OK. Battery looks tight.
>
> Just as a drive to be OCD, I'd match the pairs as to the sticker
> arrangement, but they look OK.

I have done my homework - made Diagnostic and Ref disks
And also found some SCSI hdd´s ( WDS-3200 and WDS-3160 and DCAS-32160 ) they are set to ID6 and
auto start. ( could not see any jumpers for auto start on WDS-3160..??
Will have to check if the CD has got Rails or not
I have printed the Checklist, so I can remember all the things I have to look at
I will take my time to test the system thoroughly - no need to rush it.
Maybe he has got some loose parts for the machine, I will ask if he has got something laying around.

Since Danes don´t have cars, I have juiced up my tricycle:
https://cykelshoppen.dk/trehjulet-cykel/winther-tricykel-m-tiplad-roed-trehjulet-c-aw-0040500?gclid=Cj0KCQjwgLOiBhC7ARIsAIeetVC02k2T1oSnFR9e-jnOEkYmzJ1GKO2j1Zaf2EVzyZ4bZpyc4zS_BZcaAsVZEALw_wcB

If it rains I will take my Scooter !! .:
https://lindebjerg.dk/shop/kabinescooter-country-444p.html?gclid=Cj0KCQjwgLOiBhC7ARIsAIeetVC4M86CMUc4WYw6QTEDxyFLmge0cV89g0hwaLSXItkRTi3wTTvk7zIaAlflEALw_wcB
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What did he drink?

IBMMuseum wrote:
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On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 11:34:11 -0700 (PDT), IBMMuseum
<ibmmuseum@gmail.com> wrote:

>> They make something called Stabilant 55 that you mix with 100%
>> isopropanol and it does a great job of cleaning and improving
>> connections without taking the plating off.
>> IBM told us to never use an eraser on a gold contact. We used IBM
>> Cleaning fluid (Trichloroethane 1.1.1)
>
>Trichloroethane is some nasty stuff, however - "DeoxIT" is a good, modern product to use.

Yeah after 25 years,, they took the "gold can" away from us. The old
guys said it was safer than carbon tetrachloride that they used before
;)

We were always using the gold can, for just about everything and we
ain't dead yet.
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> Yes, in a general way. No. No.

https://www.ardent-tool.com/docs/pdf/PS2_Model_80_Technical_Reference_Apr87.pdf

Pages 81 and 82.

Disable interrupts <-probably not possible in DOS mode
Push CDSETUP high. 0x96 bit 3
Disable the card. 0x102 bit 0 to off
Do POS / XPOS
Enable the card 0x102 bit 0 to on
Set CDSETUP Low 0x96 write 0x00
Reenable interrupts
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Here it is, I misplaced my copy...

https://archive.org/download/bitsavers_alteramicrChannelAdapterDesignHandbook198808_5176654/Altera_Micro_Channel_Adapter_Design_Handbook_198808.pdf

THAT is very sharp looking.

https://cykelshoppen.dk/abus-smiley-20-cykelhjelm-pink-butterfly ?

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On Sunday, June 25, 2023 at 8:01:15=E2=80=AFAM UTC-4, Louis Ohland wrote:
> Not sure what model? 300?

Probably a 320 or 32H, they were the most common of the 7012s -- not that i=
t matters with all of the guts removed, it's just "a shell of it's former s=
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Subject: Was the IBM PC Convertible meant to be a PS/2?
From: MisterArgent <evangagain@gmail.com>
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Got to thinking about this again while charging the sucker to make sure my =
recell held up. Maybe it's just my overactive imagination, but the machine =
really feels more like a launch-era PS/2 than any of the previous generatio=
n PC line machines, down to the Richard Sapper design, use of 3.5" drives, =
and the refdisk-ish system setup diskette.

The model numbering makes it a bit of a odd duck, too. None of the other IB=
M PCs ever de-incremented the 51XX model number - but assuming it was inten=
ded to be a "PS/2 Model 40", it'd fill a pretty conspicuous gap in the 1987=
launch lineup (30, 50, 60). Notably, one of the Model 40 that ultimately w=
as released in 1992 was the L40SX - another laptop!

Only real question mark is the one year release date between the PC Convert=
ible (04/1986) and 30/50/60 (04/1987) - Hard to explain how a laptop's spec=
s somehow got finalized and reached production faster than the ostensible d=
esktop counterparts, but close enough to suggest some degree of simultaneou=
s development.
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From: Louis Ohland <ohland@charter.net>
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Subject: Re: POS Sub Addressing
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0x96 bit 3, sounds system board.

Ryan Alswede wrote:
>> Yes, in a general way. No. No.
>
> https://www.ardent-tool.com/docs/pdf/PS2_Model_80_Technical_Reference_Apr87.pdf
>
> Pages 81 and 82.
>
> Disable interrupts <-probably not possible in DOS mode
> Push CDSETUP high. 0x96 bit 3
> Disable the card. 0x102 bit 0 to off
> Do POS / XPOS
> Enable the card 0x102 bit 0 to on
> Set CDSETUP Low 0x96 write 0x00
> Reenable interrupts
>
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From: Tomas Slavotinek <slavotinek@gmail.com>
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https://youtu.be/zI0zfIiYKO0

Wow, time capsule indeed! A couple of 25s and a 60 (or 80?) as a server...

https://www.ardent-tool.com/IBM_HD/WDS-380.pdf

Physical page 3

Jumper Settings Type B

Jumper Pins 9 & 10 [-Motor Start]

Carsten Lyng wrote:
> jumpers for auto start on WDS-3160
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From: Tomas Slavotinek <slavotinek@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Tim Clarke ("WBST") has passed away...
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On 27.06.2023 18:58, IBMMuseum wrote:
> We have just learned of Tim Clarke's - AKA "WBST" - recent passing; Raise a glass of warm ale in remembrance of Tim:
>
> "It is with regret that I inform you of the death of my brother Tim Clarke. The funeral will be at 3 pm 13 July at Guildford Crematorium."

Rest in Peace, friend. You will be missed.
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Do tell...

MisterArgent wrote:
> Richard Sapper design
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Read it, no mention of POS 6 or 7. Doesn't look like XPOS.

Louis Ohland wrote:
> 0x96 bit 3, sounds system board.
>
> Ryan Alswede wrote:
>>> Yes, in a general way. No. No.
>>
>> https://www.ardent-tool.com/docs/pdf/PS2_Model_80_Technical_Reference_Apr87.pdf
>>
>>
>> Pages 81 and 82.
>>
>> Disable interrupts   <-probably not possible in DOS mode
>> Push CDSETUP high. 0x96 bit 3
>> Disable the card.  0x102 bit 0 to off
>> Do POS / XPOS
>> Enable the card 0x102 bit 0 to on
>> Set CDSETUP Low 0x96 write 0x00
>> Reenable interrupts
>>
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Christian Holzapfel through his work has discovered the io window addressin=
g that the ASIC uses to talked to the Pcnet chipset. We now know how the t=
he PCI config registers are set on the PCI bus, how VPN data is read from t=
he base card and some readings on card init / IRQ reset.

The patent pdf on the 9-K page is not related to this card and should be re=
moved from the 9-K page.

I've emailed Tom=C3=A1=C5=A1 Slavot=C3=ADnek the official ADF file. Drive=
r development is underway and more info will be released in time.

Oops, I wendt to
https://web.archive.org/web/19970607104828/http://www.storage.ibm.com/techsup/hddtech/others.htm

https://web.archive.org/web/19970607104828/http://www.storage.ibm.com/techsup/hddtech/wds3160/wds31tek.htm

If you jumper it, and it spins up at power-up, fine.

If you jumper it, and it waits for the SCSI controller to wake it up,
then un-jumper it.

I rammed the caffeine injectors to full war power, and I noticed "-Motor
Start", IMHO, this means grounding Pin 9 to Ground [Pin 10] will spin-up
the drive as soon as power is supplied.

Auto Start On -or- Off will work as your load is not much [one HD, one
CD]. If you had six old drives in there, all set to Auto Start, that
might be different...

Louis Ohland wrote:
> https://www.ardent-tool.com/IBM_HD/WDS-380.pdf
>
> Physical page 3
>
> Jumper Settings Type B
>
> Jumper Pins 9 & 10 [-Motor Start]
>
> Carsten Lyng wrote:
>> jumpers for auto start on WDS-3160
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If someone has a rusted out case from long term storage, it might be a
good donor for a case-ectomy...

RickE wrote:
> Probably a 320 or 32H, they were the most common of the 7012s -- not that it matters with all of the guts removed, it's just "a shell of it's former self".
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> > Richard Sapper design

https://richardsapperdesign.com/products/mod-5140/

Someone at IBM felt that the external appearance of the 5140 should carry o=
ver to the PS/2 line - as far as an intended 'Model 40', I think that is no=
thing more than a coincidence (and even '5140' vs. '8543'). However, the PC=
Convertible does have a number of components from Seiko-Epson, which are p=
revalent in the 8086-based Model 30 (and later the Model 25 'XT'). Then we =
go down the rabbit-hole of whether the Model 30 was even an IBM design (Eps=
on Equity 1e being a Model 30 clone down to the hidden I/O registers).
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From: Louis Ohland <ohland@charter.net>
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Subject: Re: POS Sub Addressing
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https://www.ardent-tool.com/RS6000/docs/pdf/SA23-2647-00_RS6000_Hardware_Technical_Reference_Micro_Channel_Architecture_1990.pdf

Figure 1-61. POS I/O Address Space page 85

POS Subaddress Extension Field: page 88, 89

Louis Ohland wrote:
> Read it, no mention of POS 6 or 7. Doesn't look like XPOS.
>
> Louis Ohland wrote:
>> 0x96 bit 3, sounds system board.
>>
>> Ryan Alswede wrote:
>>>> Yes, in a general way. No. No.
>>>
>>> https://www.ardent-tool.com/docs/pdf/PS2_Model_80_Technical_Reference_Apr87.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>> Pages 81 and 82.
>>>
>>> Disable interrupts   <-probably not possible in DOS mode
>>> Push CDSETUP high. 0x96 bit 3
>>> Disable the card.  0x102 bit 0 to off
>>> Do POS / XPOS
>>> Enable the card 0x102 bit 0 to on
>>> Set CDSETUP Low 0x96 write 0x00
>>> Reenable interrupts
>>>
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One yard and a cloud of dust.

> The patent pdf on the 9-K page is not related to this card

https://web.archive.org/web/19970629054714/http://www.storage.ibm.com/techsup/hddtech/geninsts.pdf

When the Auto Start feature is enabled, the hard disk drive motor starts
as soon as the computer is turned on. Locate the Auto Start jumper by
referring to the documentation that came with your drive. If the Auto
Start jumper is not in place, the hard disk is started by a command from
the SCSI controller. For drives installed in IBM computers or storage
enclosures ensure that this jumper is off. The hard disk drive is
started in a staggered sequence. This reduces the start-up load on the
power supply. For non-IBM computer, refer to the documentation that came
with your computer for further information.

WBST could have done a boffo job in his pedantic style. Casino Bakhmut...

You got me instead.

"If the Auto Start jumper is not in place, the hard disk is started by a
command from the SCSI controller." "The hard disk drive is started in a
staggered sequence. This reduces the start-up load on the power supply."

Auto Spin removes one possumble raisin for the 95 to not boot.

Chances are you will need to install a system partition, unless the HD
you are bringing already has a Type 2 System Partition on it.

However, this will not turbo-dork you, from the main screen of System
Programs, after configuring and saving the configuration [into CMOS],
choose "Start Operating System"

https://www.ardent-tool.com/config/quick_system.html#Start_OS

Yes, you will have to keep booting off the refdisk for now, but it
should do gute enuf for czeching functionality.

You might have a mis-mash of SCSI BIOS and Complex BIOS, one is Enhanced
IML capable, the other not. Laying a system partition now would be
love's labor lost...

I suggest you burn 41G9361 27C010-155, -90 to -200 should work. Doesn't
have to be AMD, Intel, SGS, TI, whatever.

https://www.ardent-tool.com/datasheets/AMD_Am27C010.pdf
https://www.ardent-tool.com/firmware/system/complex/Type2/41G9361.zip

You can install it there if you wandt. It does not change any POS values
or re-order the CMOS, uses the same refdisk...

Once the system boots, let it run autoconfig, and it will do a decent
job with IBM adapters. You can set up the ports later, the KB and mouse
will be enabled for you.

You might wandt to massage the configuration at home so you can refer to
the poor writing on the Tool while you set it up like you wandt it.

Quick 'n Dirty System Programs
https://www.ardent-tool.com/config/quick_system.html

System Programs
https://www.ardent-tool.com/config/systemprograms.html
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On 27-06-2023 18:58, IBMMuseum wrote:
> We have just learned of Tim Clarke's - AKA "WBST" - recent passing; Raise a glass of warm ale in remembrance of Tim:
>
> "It is with regret that I inform you of the death of my brother Tim Clarke. The funeral will be at 3 pm 13 July at Guildford Crematorium."

Truly a sad day and a great loss.

--
Jelte,
Admirer of the letter of IBM with blue Ishiki
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On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 3:46:31=E2=80=AFPM UTC-5, IBMMuseum wrote:
> > > Richard Sapper design=20
>=20
> https://richardsapperdesign.com/products/mod-5140/=20
>=20
> Someone at IBM felt that the external appearance of the 5140 should carry=
over to the PS/2 line - as far as an intended 'Model 40', I think that is =
nothing more than a coincidence (and even '5140' vs. '8543'). However, the =
PC Convertible does have a number of components from Seiko-Epson, which are=
prevalent in the 8086-based Model 30 (and later the Model 25 'XT'). Then w=
e go down the rabbit-hole of whether the Model 30 was even an IBM design (E=
pson Equity 1e being a Model 30 clone down to the hidden I/O registers).

Huh, I hadn't considered the possibility that the PC Convertible was just t=
hem genuinely trying something new (which influenced the PS/2 line in turn)=
.. Had a hunch there was a close relation between the two, but was unclear o=
n the exact details.
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I don't believe a "setup cycle" can happen once DOS is loaded. Doesn't seem like CDSETUP is going high. INP and OUT with QBasic gets no reaction from the 8F62 card.

Unless Peter lets us know the source of the initialization ADF programs documentation that's on his website on how to write these programs I'm out of ideas.
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lørdag den 29. april 2023 kl. 13.55.54 UTC+2 skrev Louis Ohland:
> https://web.archive.org/web/19970629054714/http://www.storage.ibm.com/techsup/hddtech/geninsts.pdf
>
> When the Auto Start feature is enabled, the hard disk drive motor starts
> as soon as the computer is turned on. Locate the Auto Start jumper by
> referring to the documentation that came with your drive. If the Auto
> Start jumper is not in place, the hard disk is started by a command from
> the SCSI controller. For drives installed in IBM computers or storage
> enclosures ensure that this jumper is off. The hard disk drive is
> started in a staggered sequence. This reduces the start-up load on the
> power supply. For non-IBM computer, refer to the documentation that came
> with your computer for further information.
>
> WBST could have done a boffo job in his pedantic style. Casino Bakhmut...
>
> You got me instead.
>
> "If the Auto Start jumper is not in place, the hard disk is started by a
> command from the SCSI controller." "The hard disk drive is started in a
> staggered sequence. This reduces the start-up load on the power supply."
>
> Auto Spin removes one possumble raisin for the 95 to not boot.
>
> Chances are you will need to install a system partition, unless the HD
> you are bringing already has a Type 2 System Partition on it.
>
> However, this will not turbo-dork you, from the main screen of System
> Programs, after configuring and saving the configuration [into CMOS],
> choose "Start Operating System"
>
> https://www.ardent-tool.com/config/quick_system.html#Start_OS" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.ardent-tool.com/config/quick_system.html#Start_OS
>
> Yes, you will have to keep booting off the refdisk for now, but it
> should do gute enuf for czeching functionality.
>
> You might have a mis-mash of SCSI BIOS and Complex BIOS, one is Enhanced
> IML capable, the other not. Laying a system partition now would be
> love's labor lost...
>
> I suggest you burn 41G9361 27C010-155, -90 to -200 should work. Doesn't
> have to be AMD, Intel, SGS, TI, whatever.
>
> https://www.ardent-tool.com/datasheets/AMD_Am27C010.pdf
> https://www.ardent-tool.com/firmware/system/complex/Type2/41G9361.zip
>
> You can install it there if you wandt. It does not change any POS values
> or re-order the CMOS, uses the same refdisk...
>
> Once the system boots, let it run autoconfig, and it will do a decent
> job with IBM adapters. You can set up the ports later, the KB and mouse
> will be enabled for you.
>
> You might wandt to massage the configuration at home so you can refer to
> the poor writing on the Tool while you set it up like you wandt it.
>
> Quick 'n Dirty System Programs
> https://www.ardent-tool.com/config/quick_system.html
>
> System Programs
> https://www.ardent-tool.com/config/systemprograms.html

Finally got he machine home after testing it with the seller, there are no errors on the machine :-)
What a long trip on my tricycle, and I also forgot my helmet - thanks for the reminder :-))

There are something rotten in the state of Denmark...the drive retainer under the front bezel is missing,
I could see that straight away - and the bezel for the floppy drive is for a model 76/77, it has got this
fru number.: 92F1598. - Don´t know if it is possible to find the retainer or floppy bezel.
Also missing a couple of other bezels - Is it possible to find out the partnumbers for them ?.
I have looked at http://ps-2.kev009.com/eprmhtml/eprm/h185.htm but i am not sure which ones are
the right ones for the front bezel..??.

The cdrom drive has no rails, it just loosely placed on the drive tray

The Scsi2SD has also been tested, and it works fine with the SCSI controller, there were no problems
booting the machine with that one. the Scsi2SD is now configurated as 2 scsi drives ( ID6 and ID5 )
In the SCSI menu on the machine it shows up like 2 physical drives, with 2GB each.
Dos has been installed on C-drive.

The seller was very honest about the missing things, and we agreed on a lower price.
I got a model 50z and an extra planar for that one, and also a 3Com Network card Rj45
for $ 330,- he was happy to know they will get a good home.

I have placed some new Danish picsXXX in the Google drive

Going to clean the machine outside and inside tomorrow

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On 28/6/23 00:58, Museum wrote:
> We have just learned of Tim Clarke's - AKA "WBST" - recent passing; Raise a glass of warm ale in remembrance of Tim:
>
> "It is with regret that I inform you of the death of my brother Tim Clarke. The funeral will be at 3 pm 13 July at Guildford Crematorium."

RIP, to heaven via firewire!

--
Moussa

"People alike with a similar circumstances, tend to find each
others across space and time, given enough time in life, no
matter distance, language, race, colour and believes" (c) MEK
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At the time, it didn't resolve.

IBMMuseum wrote:
> > https://web.archive.org/web/20230601155953/https://richardsapperdesign.com/products/mod-5140/
>
> Which is still an active page I linked above...
>
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Subject: Re: US5446869 Configuration and RAM/ROM control of PCI extension card
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lørdag den 29. april 2023 kl. 19.29.47 UTC+2 skrev Carsten Lyng:
> lørdag den 29. april 2023 kl. 13.55.54 UTC+2 skrev Louis Ohland:
> > https://web.archive.org/web/19970629054714/http://www.storage.ibm.com/techsup/hddtech/geninsts.pdf
> >
> > When the Auto Start feature is enabled, the hard disk drive motor starts
> > as soon as the computer is turned on. Locate the Auto Start jumper by
> > referring to the documentation that came with your drive. If the Auto
> > Start jumper is not in place, the hard disk is started by a command from
> > the SCSI controller. For drives installed in IBM computers or storage
> > enclosures ensure that this jumper is off. The hard disk drive is
> > started in a staggered sequence. This reduces the start-up load on the
> > power supply. For non-IBM computer, refer to the documentation that came
> > with your computer for further information.
> >
> > WBST could have done a boffo job in his pedantic style. Casino Bakhmut....
> >
> > You got me instead.
> >
> > "If the Auto Start jumper is not in place, the hard disk is started by a
> > command from the SCSI controller." "The hard disk drive is started in a
> > staggered sequence. This reduces the start-up load on the power supply."
> >
> > Auto Spin removes one possumble raisin for the 95 to not boot.
> >
> > Chances are you will need to install a system partition, unless the HD
> > you are bringing already has a Type 2 System Partition on it.
> >
> > However, this will not turbo-dork you, from the main screen of System
> > Programs, after configuring and saving the configuration [into CMOS],
> > choose "Start Operating System"
> >
> > https://www.ardent-tool.com/config/quick_system.html#Start_OS" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.ardent-tool.com/config/quick_system.html#Start_OS
> >
> > Yes, you will have to keep booting off the refdisk for now, but it
> > should do gute enuf for czeching functionality.
> >
> > You might have a mis-mash of SCSI BIOS and Complex BIOS, one is Enhanced
> > IML capable, the other not. Laying a system partition now would be
> > love's labor lost...
> >
> > I suggest you burn 41G9361 27C010-155, -90 to -200 should work. Doesn't
> > have to be AMD, Intel, SGS, TI, whatever.
> >
> > https://www.ardent-tool.com/datasheets/AMD_Am27C010.pdf
> > https://www.ardent-tool.com/firmware/system/complex/Type2/41G9361.zip
> >
> > You can install it there if you wandt. It does not change any POS values
> > or re-order the CMOS, uses the same refdisk...
> >
> > Once the system boots, let it run autoconfig, and it will do a decent
> > job with IBM adapters. You can set up the ports later, the KB and mouse
> > will be enabled for you.
> >
> > You might wandt to massage the configuration at home so you can refer to
> > the poor writing on the Tool while you set it up like you wandt it.
> >
> > Quick 'n Dirty System Programs
> > https://www.ardent-tool.com/config/quick_system.html
> >
> > System Programs
> > https://www.ardent-tool.com/config/systemprograms.html
> Finally got he machine home after testing it with the seller, there are no errors on the machine :-)
> What a long trip on my tricycle, and I also forgot my helmet - thanks for the reminder :-))
>
> There are something rotten in the state of Denmark...the drive retainer under the front bezel is missing,
> I could see that straight away - and the bezel for the floppy drive is for a model 76/77, it has got this
> fru number.: 92F1598. - Don´t know if it is possible to find the retainer or floppy bezel.
> Also missing a couple of other bezels - Is it possible to find out the partnumbers for them ?.
> I have looked at http://ps-2.kev009.com/eprmhtml/eprm/h185.htm but i am not sure which ones are
> the right ones for the front bezel..??.
>
> The cdrom drive has no rails, it just loosely placed on the drive tray
>
> The Scsi2SD has also been tested, and it works fine with the SCSI controller, there were no problems
> booting the machine with that one. the Scsi2SD is now configurated as 2 scsi drives ( ID6 and ID5 )
> In the SCSI menu on the machine it shows up like 2 physical drives, with 2GB each.
> Dos has been installed on C-drive.
>
> The seller was very honest about the missing things, and we agreed on a lower price.
> I got a model 50z and an extra planar for that one, and also a 3Com Network card Rj45
> for $ 330,- he was happy to know they will get a good home.
>
> I have placed some new Danish picsXXX in the Google drive
>
> Going to clean the machine outside and inside tomorrow

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The plastic hinge on the bottom of the front bezel has broken off, so it can not snap into place -
you can see it on one of the photos....

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On 27-06-2023 23:24, Louis Ohland wrote:
> Who drinks wine at a wake?
>

I will, when a wake lasts this long:
> "The funeral will be at 3 pm 13 *July* at Guildford Crematorium."

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On 03-08-2023 22:46, IBMMuseum wrote:
>>> Richard Sapper design
>

Some more designs:

https://richardsapperdesign.com/products/thinkpad-701/

https://richardsapperdesign.com/products/thinkpad-700c/

https://richardsapperdesign.com/products/ps-1-mod-111/

Distinctive . . .

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Whatever the server is, it has a red power switch and some sort of a
tape drive. Probably floppy, my SWAG is this box has MFM drives.

See the pile of tapes in the alcove in the desk?

Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
> https://youtu.be/zI0zfIiYKO0
>
> Wow, time capsule indeed! A couple of 25s and a 60 (or 80?) as a server...

Louis Ohland schrieb am Sonntag, 12. November 2023 um 04:59:21 UTC+1:
> Whatever the server is, it has a red power switch and some sort of a
> tape drive. Probably floppy, my SWAG is this box has MFM drives.
>
> See the pile of tapes in the alcove in the desk?
> Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
> > https://youtu.be/zI0zfIiYKO0
> >
> > Wow, time capsule indeed! A couple of 25s and a 60 (or 80?) as a server...
Looks a bit too expensive for a small business like this. PS/2 Workstations, a PS/2-Server an Novell Netware Oo
But interesting to see such a capsule, indeed, Tomas :)

On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 10:59:21 PM UTC-5, Louis Ohland wrote:
> Whatever the server is, it has a red power switch and some sort of a
> tape drive. Probably floppy, my SWAG is this box has MFM drives.
>
> See the pile of tapes in the alcove in the desk?

Yes, QIC (Quarter Inch Cartridge) tapes, probably low density where you'd get 40-60MB on each tape depending on how much compression is involved in the backup. There were a number of 16-bit Microchannel QIC adapters on the market. I would have liked to see which model of Tek scope was on the floor.. I'm guessing that the 8525s only had the floppy drive to keep the system cost "reasonable".

Rick