It used to be that when clicking on a link in a web page, holding down the Ctrl key would cause
a new tab to open. It still works that way on some pages, but more and more pages are
apparently coding that out. iHerb is one, and Walmart is another. I wonder why.

--
croy

croy <croy@pam.invalid.net> wrote:

>It used to be that when clicking on a link in a web page, holding down the Ctrl key would cause
>a new tab to open. It still works that way on some pages, but more and more pages are
>apparently coding that out. iHerb is one, and Walmart is another. I wonder why.

Right click, then use "T" for opening in its own tab, or "D" for opening
in its own window.

Would you please fix your line length? Don't use a variable-spaced font.

Am 03.03.24 um 21:45 schrieb Adam H. Kerman:
> croy <croy@pam.invalid.net> wrote:
>
>> It used to be that when clicking on a link in a web page, holding down the Ctrl key would cause
>> a new tab to open. It still works that way on some pages, but more and more pages are
>> apparently coding that out. iHerb is one, and Walmart is another. I wonder why.
>
> Right click, then use "T" for opening in its own tab, or "D" for opening
> in its own window.
>
> Would you please fix your line length? Don't use a variable-spaced font.

Once more you try to mimick a Net Cop. *You* have the problem, idiot.
You are so ridiculous: X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test77 (Sep 1, 2010)

Here everything with croy's post is correct.

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Jorg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
>Am 03.03.24 um 21:45 schrieb Adam H. Kerman:
>>croy <croy@pam.invalid.net> wrote:

>>>It used to be that when clicking on a link in a web page, holding down the Ctrl key would cause
>>>a new tab to open. It still works that way on some pages, but more and more pages are
>>>apparently coding that out. iHerb is one, and Walmart is another. I wonder why.

>>Right click, then use "T" for opening in its own tab, or "D" for opening
>>in its own window.

>>Would you please fix your line length? Don't use a variable-spaced font.

>Once more you try to mimick a Net Cop.

You are an actual douchebag. "Net cop" means something else entirely. I
know you are easily confused.

One sends a line length of less than 80 characters as that's what
terminals expect to receive.

>*You* have the problem, idiot.
>You are so ridiculous: X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test77 (Sep 1, 2010)

trn4 displays the long lines as the author sent them just fine.

>Here everything with croy's post is correct.

Isn't that special.

On 03/03/2024 3:26 PM, croy wrote:
> It used to be that when clicking on a link in a web page, holding down the Ctrl key would cause
> a new tab to open. It still works that way on some pages, but more and more pages are
> apparently coding that out. iHerb is one, and Walmart is another. I wonder why.
>
I use a mouse and. so far, I have not come a cross any web page where
pressing down on the mouse scroll wheel on the link will not open the it
in a new tab. I use Firefox 115.8.0 (64-bit) for all of my browsing
adventures.

Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> Jorg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
>>Am 03.03.24 um 21:45 schrieb Adam H. Kerman:
>>>croy <croy@pam.invalid.net> wrote:
>
>>>>It used to be that when clicking on a link in a web page, holding down the Ctrl key would cause
>>>>a new tab to open. It still works that way on some pages, but more and more pages are
>>>>apparently coding that out. iHerb is one, and Walmart is another. I wonder why.
>
>>>Right click, then use "T" for opening in its own tab, or "D" for opening
>>>in its own window.
>
>>>Would you please fix your line length? Don't use a variable-spaced font.

What has the lenght of the lines got to do with the font *he* is using?

>>Once more you try to mimick a Net Cop.
>
> You are an actual douchebag. "Net cop" means something else entirely. I
> know you are easily confused.
>
> One sends a line length of less than 80 characters as that's what
> terminals expect to receive.

"Expected" to recieve. Back then in the 80ies.

>>*You* have the problem, idiot.
>>You are so ridiculous: X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test77 (Sep 1, 2010)
>
> trn4 displays the long lines as the author sent them just fine.

So what's your problem then?

Frank Miller <miller@posteo.ee> wrote:
>Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>Jorg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
>>>Am 03.03.24 um 21:45 schrieb Adam H. Kerman:
>>>>croy <croy@pam.invalid.net> wrote:

>>>>>It used to be that when clicking on a link in a web page, holding down the Ctrl key would cause
>>>>>a new tab to open. It still works that way on some pages, but more and more pages are
>>>>>apparently coding that out. iHerb is one, and Walmart is another. I wonder why.

>>>>Right click, then use "T" for opening in its own tab, or "D" for opening
>>>>in its own window.

>>>>Would you please fix your line length? Don't use a variable-spaced font.

>What has the lenght of the lines got to do with the font *he* is using?

If a fixed-width font is used, then the right boundary of the text is a
better indication of a 76 character width, or so.

If a variable-width font is used, it's harder to judge, and the number
of characters sent per line will vary too greatly.

>>>Once more you try to mimick a Net Cop.

>>You are an actual douchebag. "Net cop" means something else entirely. I
>>know you are easily confused.

>>One sends a line length of less than 80 characters as that's what
>>terminals expect to receive.

>"Expected" to recieve. Back then in the 80ies.

>>>*You* have the problem, idiot.
>>>You are so ridiculous: X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test77 (Sep 1, 2010)
>>trn4 displays the long lines as the author sent them just fine.

>So what's your problem then?

Uh, awkward line wrap?

Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> Frank Miller <miller@posteo.ee> wrote:
>>Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>Jorg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
>>>>Am 03.03.24 um 21:45 schrieb Adam H. Kerman:
>>>>>croy <croy@pam.invalid.net> wrote:
>
>>>>>>It used to be that when clicking on a link in a web page, holding down the Ctrl key would cause
>>>>>>a new tab to open. It still works that way on some pages, but more and more pages are
>>>>>>apparently coding that out. iHerb is one, and Walmart is another. I wonder why.
>
>>>>>Right click, then use "T" for opening in its own tab, or "D" for opening
>>>>>in its own window.
>
>>>>>Would you please fix your line length? Don't use a variable-spaced font.
>
>>What has the lenght of the lines got to do with the font *he* is using?
>
> If a fixed-width font is used, then the right boundary of the text is a
> better indication of a 76 character width, or so.

Right boundary? Where? Your terminal, his editor, your usenet-client?

> If a variable-width font is used, it's harder to judge, and the number
> of characters sent per line will vary too greatly.

Correct.

But why do you suggest him to use a fixed font width - if you even don't
know, if he already uses it?

>>So what's your problem then?
>
> Uh, awkward line wrap?

That's only *your personal* problem. If your newsreader isn't able to wrap long lines in a decent matter, it's only you who has a problem. But don't teach other user users, which fonts they should use when they are composing messages.

Frank Miller <miller@posteo.ee> wrote:
>Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>> Frank Miller <miller@posteo.ee> wrote:
>>>Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>Jorg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
>>>>>Am 03.03.24 um 21:45 schrieb Adam H. Kerman:
>>>>>>croy <croy@pam.invalid.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>It used to be that when clicking on a link in a web page, holding
>down the Ctrl key would cause
>>>>>>>a new tab to open. It still works that way on some pages, but
>more and more pages are
>>>>>>>apparently coding that out. iHerb is one, and Walmart is another.
>I wonder why.
>>
>>>>>>Right click, then use "T" for opening in its own tab, or "D" for opening
>>>>>>in its own window.
>>
>>>>>>Would you please fix your line length? Don't use a variable-spaced font.
>>
>>>What has the lenght of the lines got to do with the font *he* is using?
>>
>> If a fixed-width font is used, then the right boundary of the text is a
>> better indication of a 76 character width, or so.
>
>Right boundary? Where? Your terminal, his editor, your usenet-client?

See if you can figure it out from context.

>>If a variable-width font is used, it's harder to judge, and the number
>>of characters sent per line will vary too greatly.

>Correct.

>But why do you suggest him to use a fixed font width - if you even don't
>know, if he already uses it?

See if you can read for understanding.

>>>So what's your problem then?

>>Uh, awkward line wrap?

>That's only *your personal* problem.

Everybody expects an 80-character width since the '80s.

>If your newsreader isn't able to
>wrap long lines in a decent matter, it's only you who has a problem. But
>don't teach other user users, which fonts they should use when they are
>composing messages.

No one's can wrap. It wasn't sent as flowed text.

I didn't specify a font but a type of font.

In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Mon, 4 Mar 2024 01:34:38 -0000 (UTC),
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

>Frank Miller <miller@posteo.ee> wrote:
>>Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>> Frank Miller <miller@posteo.ee> wrote:
>>>>Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>>Jorg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
>>>>>>Am 03.03.24 um 21:45 schrieb Adam H. Kerman:
>>>>>>>croy <croy@pam.invalid.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>>It used to be that when clicking on a link in a web page, holding
>>down the Ctrl key would cause
>>>>>>>>a new tab to open. It still works that way on some pages, but
>>more and more pages are
>>>>>>>>apparently coding that out. iHerb is one, and Walmart is another.
>>I wonder why.
>>>
>>>>>>>Right click, then use "T" for opening in its own tab, or "D" for opening
>>>>>>>in its own window.
>>>
>>>>>>>Would you please fix your line length? Don't use a variable-spaced font.
>>>
>>>>What has the lenght of the lines got to do with the font *he* is using?
>>>
>>> If a fixed-width font is used, then the right boundary of the text is a
>>> better indication of a 76 character width, or so.
>>
>>Right boundary? Where? Your terminal, his editor, your usenet-client?
>
>See if you can figure it out from context.
>
>>>If a variable-width font is used, it's harder to judge, and the number
>>>of characters sent per line will vary too greatly.
>
>>Correct.
>
>>But why do you suggest him to use a fixed font width - if you even don't
>>know, if he already uses it?
>
>See if you can read for understanding.
>
>>>>So what's your problem then?
>
>>>Uh, awkward line wrap?
>
>>That's only *your personal* problem.
>
>Everybody expects an 80-character width since the '80s.
>
>>If your newsreader isn't able to
>>wrap long lines in a decent matter, it's only you who has a problem. But
>>don't teach other user users, which fonts they should use when they are
>>composing messages.
>
>No one's can wrap. It wasn't sent as flowed text.
>
>I didn't specify a font but a type of font.

FWIW, it appears to be variable width to me, but it displays fine, in 3
lines, the same whether I have word wrap on or not. Agent v.5.

micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
>In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Mon, 4 Mar 2024 01:34:38 -0000 (UTC),
>"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>
>>Frank Miller <miller@posteo.ee> wrote:
>>>Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>> Frank Miller <miller@posteo.ee> wrote:
>>>>>Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>>>Jorg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>Am 03.03.24 um 21:45 schrieb Adam H. Kerman:
>>>>>>>>croy <croy@pam.invalid.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>It used to be that when clicking on a link in a web page, holding
>>>down the Ctrl key would cause
>>>>>>>>>a new tab to open. It still works that way on some pages, but
>>>more and more pages are
>>>>>>>>>apparently coding that out. iHerb is one, and Walmart is another.
>>>I wonder why.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>Right click, then use "T" for opening in its own tab, or "D" for opening
>>>>>>>>in its own window.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>Would you please fix your line length? Don't use a variable-spaced font.
>>>>
>>>>>What has the lenght of the lines got to do with the font *he* is using?
>>>>
>>>> If a fixed-width font is used, then the right boundary of the text is a
>>>> better indication of a 76 character width, or so.
>>>
>>>Right boundary? Where? Your terminal, his editor, your usenet-client?
>>
>>See if you can figure it out from context.
>>
>>>>If a variable-width font is used, it's harder to judge, and the number
>>>>of characters sent per line will vary too greatly.
>>
>>>Correct.
>>
>>>But why do you suggest him to use a fixed font width - if you even don't
>>>know, if he already uses it?
>>
>>See if you can read for understanding.
>>
>>>>>So what's your problem then?
>>
>>>>Uh, awkward line wrap?
>>
>>>That's only *your personal* problem.
>>
>>Everybody expects an 80-character width since the '80s.
>>
>>>If your newsreader isn't able to
>>>wrap long lines in a decent matter, it's only you who has a problem. But
>>>don't teach other user users, which fonts they should use when they are
>>>composing messages.
>>
>>No one's can wrap. It wasn't sent as flowed text.
>>
>>I didn't specify a font but a type of font.
>
>FWIW, it appears to be variable width to me, but it displays fine, in 3
>lines, the same whether I have word wrap on or not. Agent v.5.

Because you chose a variable width font to display an article with.

Am 03.03.24 um 21:26 schrieb croy:
> It used to be that when clicking on a link in a web page, holding down the Ctrl key would cause
> a new tab to open. It still works that way on some pages, but more and more pages are
> apparently coding that out. iHerb is one, and Walmart is another. I wonder why.

I do not know why. Just right-klick with the mouse on the link and
choose what fits you.

--
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croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> wrote:
> It used to be that when clicking on a link in a web page, holding
> down the Ctrl key would cause a new tab to open. It still works
> that way on some pages, but more and more pages are apparently
> coding that out. iHerb is one, and Walmart is another. I wonder
> why.

I doubt it's deliberate, simply that they rewrote the website to
display the links via Javascript and that means Firefox doesn't
treat them as regular links anymore. A website I use did that years
ago and it was a major pain, needing me to click back and forth lots
of times whereas I could have simply middle/Ctrl clicked to load
pages in tabs. Either the website fixed that or Firefox got a
broader definition of what to treat as a link, because that problem
went away years ago, but I've seen it still happens with other
websites.

Yet another reason why I dislike Javascript.

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Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote at 06:53 this Monday (GMT):
> croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> wrote:
>> It used to be that when clicking on a link in a web page, holding
>> down the Ctrl key would cause a new tab to open. It still works
>> that way on some pages, but more and more pages are apparently
>> coding that out. iHerb is one, and Walmart is another. I wonder
>> why.
>
> I doubt it's deliberate, simply that they rewrote the website to
> display the links via Javascript and that means Firefox doesn't
> treat them as regular links anymore. A website I use did that years
> ago and it was a major pain, needing me to click back and forth lots
> of times whereas I could have simply middle/Ctrl clicked to load
> pages in tabs. Either the website fixed that or Firefox got a
> broader definition of what to treat as a link, because that problem
> went away years ago, but I've seen it still happens with other
> websites.
>
> Yet another reason why I dislike Javascript.

It does feel like we keep getting more JS for no reason..
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In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Mon, 4 Mar 2024 04:31:18 -0000 (UTC),
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

>micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
>>In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Mon, 4 Mar 2024 01:34:38 -0000 (UTC),
>>"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Frank Miller <miller@posteo.ee> wrote:
>>>>Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>> Frank Miller <miller@posteo.ee> wrote:
>>>>>>Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>>>>Jorg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>Am 03.03.24 um 21:45 schrieb Adam H. Kerman:
>>>>>>>>>croy <croy@pam.invalid.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>It used to be that when clicking on a link in a web page, holding
>>>>down the Ctrl key would cause
>>>>>>>>>>a new tab to open. It still works that way on some pages, but
>>>>more and more pages are
>>>>>>>>>>apparently coding that out. iHerb is one, and Walmart is another.
>>>>I wonder why.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Right click, then use "T" for opening in its own tab, or "D" for opening
>>>>>>>>>in its own window.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Would you please fix your line length? Don't use a variable-spaced font.
>>>>>
>>>>>>What has the lenght of the lines got to do with the font *he* is using?
>>>>>
>>>>> If a fixed-width font is used, then the right boundary of the text is a
>>>>> better indication of a 76 character width, or so.
>>>>
>>>>Right boundary? Where? Your terminal, his editor, your usenet-client?
>>>
>>>See if you can figure it out from context.
>>>
>>>>>If a variable-width font is used, it's harder to judge, and the number
>>>>>of characters sent per line will vary too greatly.
>>>
>>>>Correct.
>>>
>>>>But why do you suggest him to use a fixed font width - if you even don't
>>>>know, if he already uses it?
>>>
>>>See if you can read for understanding.
>>>
>>>>>>So what's your problem then?
>>>
>>>>>Uh, awkward line wrap?
>>>
>>>>That's only *your personal* problem.
>>>
>>>Everybody expects an 80-character width since the '80s.
>>>
>>>>If your newsreader isn't able to
>>>>wrap long lines in a decent matter, it's only you who has a problem. But
>>>>don't teach other user users, which fonts they should use when they are
>>>>composing messages.
>>>
>>>No one's can wrap. It wasn't sent as flowed text.
>>>
>>>I didn't specify a font but a type of font.
>>
>>FWIW, it appears to be variable width to me, but it displays fine, in 3
>>lines, the same whether I have word wrap on or not. Agent v.5.
>
>Because you chose a variable width font to display an article with.

Agent has a default variable width and a default fixed width font for
text within the body of the message. It was like in versions 1.93, 3,
4, and 5. Three or 4 years ago, I changed them both to bold fonts and
might have increased their point number.

There is a checkbox for using the variable font, but either Checked was
the default or I checked it 10+ years ago because it worked better. I
gather from what you've written that you are using a fixed-width font
and so are some others, but they display fine too. Maybe if you chose
to use a variable width font, everything would be fine?

In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Sun, 03 Mar 2024 12:26:18 -0800, croy
<croy@spam.invalid.net> wrote:

>It used to be that when clicking on a link in a web page, holding down the Ctrl key would cause
>a new tab to open. It still works that way on some pages, but more and more pages are
>apparently coding that out. iHerb is one, and Walmart is another. I wonder why.

I didn't know about this. It would save me one click per link**, and
that's good. But I read your post yesterday and didn't remember to try
it when I was in FF. If it's fading away already, by the time I
remember to try it, and the time I remember to keep using it, alas, it
may be too late for me.

**I've been using right click/new tab. I wish these programs came with
instructions.

micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
>In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Mon, 4 Mar 2024 04:31:18 -0000 (UTC),
>"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>
>>micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
>>>In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Mon, 4 Mar 2024 01:34:38 -0000 (UTC),
>>>"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Frank Miller <miller@posteo.ee> wrote:
>>>>>Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>>> Frank Miller <miller@posteo.ee> wrote:
>>>>>>>Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>>>>>Jorg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>Am 03.03.24 um 21:45 schrieb Adam H. Kerman:
>>>>>>>>>>croy <croy@pam.invalid.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>It used to be that when clicking on a link in a web page, holding
>>>>>down the Ctrl key would cause
>>>>>>>>>>>a new tab to open. It still works that way on some pages, but
>>>>>more and more pages are
>>>>>>>>>>>apparently coding that out. iHerb is one, and Walmart is another.
>>>>>I wonder why.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Right click, then use "T" for opening in its own tab, or "D"
>for opening
>>>>>>>>>>in its own window.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Would you please fix your line length? Don't use a
>variable-spaced font.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>What has the lenght of the lines got to do with the font *he* is using?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If a fixed-width font is used, then the right boundary of the text is a
>>>>>> better indication of a 76 character width, or so.
>>>>>
>>>>>Right boundary? Where? Your terminal, his editor, your usenet-client?
>>>>
>>>>See if you can figure it out from context.
>>>>
>>>>>>If a variable-width font is used, it's harder to judge, and the number
>>>>>>of characters sent per line will vary too greatly.
>>>>
>>>>>Correct.
>>>>
>>>>>But why do you suggest him to use a fixed font width - if you even don't
>>>>>know, if he already uses it?
>>>>
>>>>See if you can read for understanding.
>>>>
>>>>>>>So what's your problem then?
>>>>
>>>>>>Uh, awkward line wrap?
>>>>
>>>>>That's only *your personal* problem.
>>>>
>>>>Everybody expects an 80-character width since the '80s.
>>>>
>>>>>If your newsreader isn't able to
>>>>>wrap long lines in a decent matter, it's only you who has a problem. But
>>>>>don't teach other user users, which fonts they should use when they are
>>>>>composing messages.
>>>>
>>>>No one's can wrap. It wasn't sent as flowed text.
>>>>
>>>>I didn't specify a font but a type of font.
>>>
>>>FWIW, it appears to be variable width to me, but it displays fine, in 3
>>>lines, the same whether I have word wrap on or not. Agent v.5.
>>
>>Because you chose a variable width font to display an article with.
>
>Agent has a default variable width and a default fixed width font for
>text within the body of the message. It was like in versions 1.93, 3,
>4, and 5. Three or 4 years ago, I changed them both to bold fonts and
>might have increased their point number.
>
>There is a checkbox for using the variable font, but either Checked was
>the default or I checked it 10+ years ago because it worked better. I
>gather from what you've written that you are using a fixed-width font
>and so are some others, but they display fine too. Maybe if you chose
>to use a variable width font, everything would be fine?

It's literally not fine to send long lines.

On 2024-03-04, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
> In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Sun, 03 Mar 2024 12:26:18 -0800, croy
><croy@spam.invalid.net> wrote:
>
>>It used to be that when clicking on a link in a web page, holding down the Ctrl key would cause
>>a new tab to open. It still works that way on some pages, but more and more pages are
>>apparently coding that out. iHerb is one, and Walmart is another. I wonder why.
>
> I didn't know about this. It would save me one click per link**, and
> that's good. But I read your post yesterday and didn't remember to try
> it when I was in FF. If it's fading away already, by the time I
> remember to try it, and the time I remember to keep using it, alas, it
> may be too late for me.
>
> **I've been using right click/new tab. I wish these programs came with
> instructions.

Middle-click is even easier than Ctrl-click.
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Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> wrote:
> On 2024-03-04, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
> > In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Sun, 03 Mar 2024 12:26:18 -0800, croy
> ><croy@spam.invalid.net> wrote:
> >
> >>It used to be that when clicking on a link in a web page, holding down the Ctrl key would cause
> >>a new tab to open. It still works that way on some pages, but more and more pages are
> >>apparently coding that out. iHerb is one, and Walmart is another. I wonder why.
> >
> > I didn't know about this. It would save me one click per link**, and
> > that's good. But I read your post yesterday and didn't remember to try
> > it when I was in FF. If it's fading away already, by the time I
> > remember to try it, and the time I remember to keep using it, alas, it
> > may be too late for me.
> >
> > **I've been using right click/new tab. I wish these programs came with
> > instructions.

> Middle-click is even easier than Ctrl-click.

For me, clicking the middle scroll wheel is harder to press compared
regular mouse buttons due to my disabilities. :(

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On 3/3/24 14:26, croy wrote:
> It used to be that when clicking on a link in a web page, holding down the Ctrl key would cause
> a new tab to open. It still works that way on some pages, but more and more pages are
> apparently coding that out. iHerb is one, and Walmart is another. I wonder why.

I always use middle-click. Its easier (one finger) and I've never seen a
page that doesn't work with it.

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Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 18:35 this Monday (GMT):
> Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> wrote:
>> On 2024-03-04, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
>> > In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Sun, 03 Mar 2024 12:26:18 -0800, croy
>> ><croy@spam.invalid.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >>It used to be that when clicking on a link in a web page, holding down the Ctrl key would cause
>> >>a new tab to open. It still works that way on some pages, but more and more pages are
>> >>apparently coding that out. iHerb is one, and Walmart is another. I wonder why.
>> >
>> > I didn't know about this. It would save me one click per link**, and
>> > that's good. But I read your post yesterday and didn't remember to try
>> > it when I was in FF. If it's fading away already, by the time I
>> > remember to try it, and the time I remember to keep using it, alas, it
>> > may be too late for me.
>> >
>> > **I've been using right click/new tab. I wish these programs came with
>> > instructions.
>
>> Middle-click is even easier than Ctrl-click.
>
> For me, clicking the middle scroll wheel is harder to press compared
> regular mouse buttons due to my disabilities. :(

oof, what disabilities?
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Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> wrote at 19:32 this Monday (GMT):
> On 3/3/24 14:26, croy wrote:
>> It used to be that when clicking on a link in a web page, holding down the Ctrl key would cause
>> a new tab to open. It still works that way on some pages, but more and more pages are
>> apparently coding that out. iHerb is one, and Walmart is another. I wonder why.
>
> I always use middle-click. Its easier (one finger) and I've never seen a
> page that doesn't work with it.

Same, tho I sometimes out of habit do control and right click.
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In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Mon, 4 Mar 2024 19:50:09 -0000 (UTC),
candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
wrote:

>Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 18:35 this Monday (GMT):
>> Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> wrote:
>>> On 2024-03-04, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
>>> > In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Sun, 03 Mar 2024 12:26:18 -0800, croy
>>> ><croy@spam.invalid.net> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>It used to be that when clicking on a link in a web page, holding down the Ctrl key would cause
>>> >>a new tab to open. It still works that way on some pages, but more and more pages are
>>> >>apparently coding that out. iHerb is one, and Walmart is another. I wonder why.
>>> >
>>> > I didn't know about this. It would save me one click per link**, and
>>> > that's good. But I read your post yesterday and didn't remember to try
>>> > it when I was in FF. If it's fading away already, by the time I
>>> > remember to try it, and the time I remember to keep using it, alas, it
>>> > may be too late for me.
>>> >
>>> > **I've been using right click/new tab. I wish these programs came with
>>> > instructions.
>>
>>> Middle-click is even easier than Ctrl-click.
>>
>> For me, clicking the middle scroll wheel is harder to press compared
>> regular mouse buttons due to my disabilities. :(
>
>oof, what disabilities?

An ant has 6 legs but few fingers.

As for me, the scroll wheel is all right for turning and rotating, but
pressing it seems satanic. I don't consider understanding the deep
nature of things to be a disability.

Ant wrote:

> Carl Fink wrote:
>
>> Middle-click is even easier than Ctrl-click.
>
> For me, clicking the middle scroll wheel is harder to press compared
> regular mouse buttons due to my disabilities. :(

Even without disabilities, the middle scroll wheel is less convenient
than left or right mouse buttons.

micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote at 22:06 this Monday (GMT):
> In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Mon, 4 Mar 2024 19:50:09 -0000 (UTC),
> candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
> wrote:
>
>>Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 18:35 this Monday (GMT):
>>> Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2024-03-04, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
>>>> > In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Sun, 03 Mar 2024 12:26:18 -0800, croy
>>>> ><croy@spam.invalid.net> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >>It used to be that when clicking on a link in a web page, holding down the Ctrl key would cause
>>>> >>a new tab to open. It still works that way on some pages, but more and more pages are
>>>> >>apparently coding that out. iHerb is one, and Walmart is another. I wonder why.
>>>> >
>>>> > I didn't know about this. It would save me one click per link**, and
>>>> > that's good. But I read your post yesterday and didn't remember to try
>>>> > it when I was in FF. If it's fading away already, by the time I
>>>> > remember to try it, and the time I remember to keep using it, alas, it
>>>> > may be too late for me.
>>>> >
>>>> > **I've been using right click/new tab. I wish these programs came with
>>>> > instructions.
>>>
>>>> Middle-click is even easier than Ctrl-click.
>>>
>>> For me, clicking the middle scroll wheel is harder to press compared
>>> regular mouse buttons due to my disabilities. :(
>>
>>oof, what disabilities?
>
> An ant has 6 legs but few fingers.

o true, tho i wonder how they type then :)

> As for me, the scroll wheel is all right for turning and rotating, but
> pressing it seems satanic. I don't consider understanding the deep
> nature of things to be a disability.

Maybe its an issue with your mouse?
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