Are there any issues with installing a current version of Linux on a MacBook
Pro (13inch Mid 2012). Will a typical (PC) [Live/]Installer ISO work (eg Mint
21.1 or Ubuntu 20.04 or Ubuntu 22.04 or Debian 10), or do I need special
installer (Mac specific) media?

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Am 18.05.23 um 17:45 schrieb Robert Heller:
> Are there any issues with installing a current version of Linux on a MacBook
> Pro (13inch Mid 2012). Will a typical (PC) [Live/]Installer ISO work (eg Mint
> 21.1 or Ubuntu 20.04 or Ubuntu 22.04 or Debian 10), or do I need special
> installer (Mac specific) media?

No problem at all!

I installed it on various MacBook Pros and MacBook Airs (2006-2017) with
a bootable stick with an ISO-image. What never worked out of the box
were the cameras. I never cared about that anyway. Everything else
works/worked perfectly.

Proven for Linux Mint, Ubuntu and OpenSuse Tumble Weed. My favourite
Linux is Mint Cinnamon.

Good luck!

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At Thu, 18 May 2023 18:44:31 +0200 Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

>
> Am 18.05.23 um 17:45 schrieb Robert Heller:
> > Are there any issues with installing a current version of Linux on a MacBook
> > Pro (13inch Mid 2012). Will a typical (PC) [Live/]Installer ISO work (eg Mint
> > 21.1 or Ubuntu 20.04 or Ubuntu 22.04 or Debian 10), or do I need special
> > installer (Mac specific) media?
>
> No problem at all!
>
> I installed it on various MacBook Pros and MacBook Airs (2006-2017) with
> a bootable stick with an ISO-image. What never worked out of the box
> were the cameras. I never cared about that anyway. Everything else
> works/worked perfectly.

OK, I guess I might want to get the camera working (for Zoom), but not
critical -- Zoom does run on my smartphone, and that is a workable option for
me.

>
> Proven for Linux Mint, Ubuntu and OpenSuse Tumble Weed. My favourite
> Linux is Mint Cinnamon.
>
> Good luck!
>

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http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services
heller@deepsoft.com -- Webhosting Services

On 5/18/23 10:40, Robert Heller wrote:
> At Thu, 18 May 2023 18:44:31 +0200 Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
>
>>
>> Am 18.05.23 um 17:45 schrieb Robert Heller:
>>> Are there any issues with installing a current version of Linux on a MacBook
>>> Pro (13inch Mid 2012). Will a typical (PC) [Live/]Installer ISO work (eg Mint
>>> 21.1 or Ubuntu 20.04 or Ubuntu 22.04 or Debian 10), or do I need special
>>> installer (Mac specific) media?
>>
>> No problem at all!
>>
>> I installed it on various MacBook Pros and MacBook Airs (2006-2017) with
>> a bootable stick with an ISO-image. What never worked out of the box
>> were the cameras. I never cared about that anyway. Everything else
>> works/worked perfectly.
>
> OK, I guess I might want to get the camera working (for Zoom), but not
> critical -- Zoom does run on my smartphone, and that is a workable option for
> me.
>
>>
>> Proven for Linux Mint, Ubuntu and OpenSuse Tumble Weed. My favourite
>> Linux is Mint Cinnamon.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>
According to to a recent message on PCLinuxOS Users forum the OP had no
problems with using that vintage of MacBook.

bliss
--
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Am 18.05.23 um 22:05 schrieb Bobbie Sellers:
> On 5/18/23 10:40, Robert Heller wrote:
>> At Thu, 18 May 2023 18:44:31 +0200 Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Am 18.05.23 um 17:45 schrieb Robert Heller:
>>>> Are there any issues with installing a current version of Linux on a MacBook
>>>> Pro (13inch Mid 2012). Will a typical (PC) [Live/]Installer ISO work (eg Mint
>>>> 21.1 or Ubuntu 20.04 or Ubuntu 22.04 or Debian 10), or do I need special
>>>> installer (Mac specific) media?
>>>
>>> No problem at all!
>>>
>>> I installed it on various MacBook Pros and MacBook Airs (2006-2017) with
>>> a bootable stick with an ISO-image. What never worked out of the box
>>> were the cameras. I never cared about that anyway. Everything else
>>> works/worked perfectly.
>>
>> OK, I guess I might want to get the camera working (for Zoom), but not
>> critical -- Zoom does run on my smartphone, and that is a workable option for
>> me.
>>
>>>
>>> Proven for Linux Mint, Ubuntu and OpenSuse Tumble Weed. My favourite
>>> Linux is Mint Cinnamon.
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>>
>>
> According to to a recent message on PCLinuxOS Users forum the OP had no
> problems with using that vintage of MacBook.

As I said. With newer MBPs the performance is breathtaking.

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On Thu, 18 May 2023 17:40:31 +0000, Robert Heller wrote:
>
> At Thu, 18 May 2023 18:44:31 +0200 Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
>
>>
>> Am 18.05.23 um 17:45 schrieb Robert Heller:
>> > Are there any issues with installing a current version of Linux on a MacBook
>> > Pro (13inch Mid 2012). Will a typical (PC) [Live/]Installer ISO work (eg Mint
>> > 21.1 or Ubuntu 20.04 or Ubuntu 22.04 or Debian 10), or do I need special
>> > installer (Mac specific) media?
>>
>> No problem at all!
>>
>> I installed it on various MacBook Pros and MacBook Airs (2006-2017) with
>> a bootable stick with an ISO-image. What never worked out of the box
>> were the cameras. I never cared about that anyway. Everything else
>> works/worked perfectly.
>
> OK, I guess I might want to get the camera working (for Zoom), but not
> critical -- Zoom does run on my smartphone, and that is a workable option for
> me.

Would assume camera issues with 11 year old hardware should be sorted by now.
--
Andreas

On 5/18/23 13:39, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
> As I said. With newer MBPs the performance is breathtaking.
>

Define newer!
The M1/2 models are not close to ready for prime time with Linux.

Am 19.05.23 um 06:45 schrieb stepore:
> On 5/18/23 13:39, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>> As I said. With newer MBPs the performance is breathtaking.
>>
>
> Define newer!
> The M1/2 models are not close to ready for prime time with Linux.

Nobody claimed that.
We are always talking about Intel- or PPC-Macs. My newest is a MBP
bought in 2017.

--
Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

Am 19.05.23 um 06:43 schrieb Andreas Kohlbach:
> On Thu, 18 May 2023 17:40:31 +0000, Robert Heller wrote:
>>
>> At Thu, 18 May 2023 18:44:31 +0200 Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Am 18.05.23 um 17:45 schrieb Robert Heller:
>>>> Are there any issues with installing a current version of Linux on a MacBook
>>>> Pro (13inch Mid 2012). Will a typical (PC) [Live/]Installer ISO work (eg Mint
>>>> 21.1 or Ubuntu 20.04 or Ubuntu 22.04 or Debian 10), or do I need special
>>>> installer (Mac specific) media?
>>>
>>> No problem at all!
>>>
>>> I installed it on various MacBook Pros and MacBook Airs (2006-2017) with
>>> a bootable stick with an ISO-image. What never worked out of the box
>>> were the cameras. I never cared about that anyway. Everything else
>>> works/worked perfectly.
>>
>> OK, I guess I might want to get the camera working (for Zoom), but not
>> critical -- Zoom does run on my smartphone, and that is a workable option for
>> me.
>
> Would assume camera issues with 11 year old hardware should be sorted by now.

Probably yes but I never did a search for a driver.

--
Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

On 18/05/2023 18:40, Robert Heller wrote:
> OK, I guess I might want to get the camera working (for Zoom), but not
> critical -- Zoom does run on my smartphone, and that is a workable option for
> me.
>
I think that is a known driver issue. Running (in Mint) the driver
detect software may fix that.

--
"First, find out who are the people you can not criticise. They are your
oppressors."
- George Orwell

On 19/05/2023 06:32, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
> Am 19.05.23 um 06:43 schrieb Andreas Kohlbach:
>> On Thu, 18 May 2023 17:40:31 +0000, Robert Heller wrote:
>>>
>>> At Thu, 18 May 2023 18:44:31 +0200 Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 18.05.23 um 17:45 schrieb Robert Heller:
>>>>> Are there any issues with installing a current version of Linux on a MacBook
>>>>> Pro (13inch Mid 2012). Will a typical (PC) [Live/]Installer ISO work (eg Mint
>>>>> 21.1 or Ubuntu 20.04 or Ubuntu 22.04 or Debian 10), or do I need special
>>>>> installer (Mac specific) media?
>>>>
>>>> No problem at all!
>>>>
>>>> I installed it on various MacBook Pros and MacBook Airs (2006-2017) with
>>>> a bootable stick with an ISO-image. What never worked out of the box
>>>> were the cameras. I never cared about that anyway. Everything else
>>>> works/worked perfectly.
>>>
>>> OK, I guess I might want to get the camera working (for Zoom), but not
>>> critical -- Zoom does run on my smartphone, and that is a workable option for
>>> me.
>>
>> Would assume camera issues with 11 year old hardware should be sorted by now.
>
> Probably yes but I never did a search for a driver.
>
I just did some research and it seems that there is no 100% stable
solution - you have to build and compile some firmware and mast people
found this not 100% stable.
The quick answer is to install USB web cam.

--
It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.
Mark Twain

Am 19.05.23 um 09:59 schrieb The Natural Philosopher:
> On 18/05/2023 18:40, Robert Heller wrote:
>> OK, I guess I might want to get the camera working (for Zoom), but not
>> critical -- Zoom does run on my smartphone, and that is a workable option for
>> me.
>>
> I think that is a known driver issue. Running (in Mint) the driver
> detect software may fix that.

No. It doesn't. This self explaining.

--
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On 19/05/2023 05:45, stepore wrote:
> On 5/18/23 13:39, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>> As I said. With newer MBPs the performance is breathtaking.
>>
>
> Define newer!
> The M1/2 models are not close to ready for prime time with Linux.

Interesting, I would have though the Apple Arm chips would be a step
ahead of cheaper Arm SoC systems such as the RK3588S.

Armbian, on the RK3588S, also isn't prime time, but it is close. It is
useable.

On 5/18/23 22:30, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
> Am 19.05.23 um 06:45 schrieb stepore:
>> On 5/18/23 13:39, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>>> As I said. With newer MBPs the performance is breathtaking.
>>>
>>
>> Define newer!
>> The M1/2 models are not close to ready for prime time with Linux.
>
> Nobody claimed that.

Maybe. Maybe not. You did say "With newer MBPs". Those are newer.

> We are always talking about Intel- or PPC-Macs.

We are? Always!?
Again, I wasn't sure based on your statement. That's why I was asking.

Maybe I missed something. And suddenly the newer M1/2 MBP were suddenly
working and the performance was breathtaking.

On 2023-05-18, Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> wrote:
> Are there any issues with installing a current version of Linux on a MacBook
> Pro (13inch Mid 2012). Will a typical (PC) [Live/]Installer ISO work (eg Mint
> 21.1 or Ubuntu 20.04 or Ubuntu 22.04 or Debian 10), or do I need special
> installer (Mac specific) media?
>

I see down the thread that it's possible.

I have my brother's old 2011 MB Pro and was not able to get it to boot from
either the Superdrive--which does not seem to work...gummed up over the
years perhaps--or the USB.

I followed all the "howtos" I could on the internet about getting the thing
to boot from USB...maybe it's just too early for that.

It's been a while since I looked at it but it is Intel.

If you acheive success (K'Pla!) maybe you can give a quick note of how you
got it to boot from the USB.

As I recall when I got to the boot page the only options I had were the HD
and CD...no USB entry at all, and w/ the CD non-resonsive...well....

pH in Aptos

On 20/05/2023 19:08, pH wrote:
> On 2023-05-18, Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> wrote:
>> Are there any issues with installing a current version of Linux on a MacBook
>> Pro (13inch Mid 2012). Will a typical (PC) [Live/]Installer ISO work (eg Mint
>> 21.1 or Ubuntu 20.04 or Ubuntu 22.04 or Debian 10), or do I need special
>> installer (Mac specific) media?
>>
>
> I see down the thread that it's possible.
>
> I have my brother's old 2011 MB Pro and was not able to get it to boot from
> either the Superdrive--which does not seem to work...gummed up over the
> years perhaps--or the USB.
>
> I followed all the "howtos" I could on the internet about getting the thing
> to boot from USB...maybe it's just too early for that.
>
> It's been a while since I looked at it but it is Intel.
>
> If you acheive success (K'Pla!) maybe you can give a quick note of how you
> got it to boot from the USB.
>
> As I recall when I got to the boot page the only options I had were the HD
> and CD...no USB entry at all, and w/ the CD non-resonsive...well....
>
> pH in Aptos

Well CD drives are not expensive at all, and sometimes a USB CD drive
will work

id research the net to see if things other than the CD drive will boot.
And or work out why the CD drive wont...

--
A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on
its shoes.

On 2023-05-20, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 20/05/2023 19:08, pH wrote:
>> On 2023-05-18, Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> wrote:
>>> Are there any issues with installing a current version of Linux on a MacBook
>>> Pro (13inch Mid 2012). Will a typical (PC) [Live/]Installer ISO work (eg Mint
>>> 21.1 or Ubuntu 20.04 or Ubuntu 22.04 or Debian 10), or do I need special
>>> installer (Mac specific) media?
>>>
>>
>> I see down the thread that it's possible.
>>
>> I have my brother's old 2011 MB Pro and was not able to get it to boot from
>> either the Superdrive--which does not seem to work...gummed up over the
>> years perhaps--or the USB.
>>
>> I followed all the "howtos" I could on the internet about getting the thing
>> to boot from USB...maybe it's just too early for that.
>>
>> It's been a while since I looked at it but it is Intel.
>>
>> If you acheive success (K'Pla!) maybe you can give a quick note of how you
>> got it to boot from the USB.
>>
>> As I recall when I got to the boot page the only options I had were the HD
>> and CD...no USB entry at all, and w/ the CD non-resonsive...well....
>>
>> pH in Aptos
>
> Well CD drives are not expensive at all, and sometimes a USB CD drive
> will work
>
> id research the net to see if things other than the CD drive will boot.
> And or work out why the CD drive wont...
>

Oh...okay, if the Apple CD is not anything special and not too dear, maybe
I'll give that a try. I've had it apart to replace the battery so I should
be able to figure it out.

pH

On 21/05/2023 02:07, pH wrote:
> On 2023-05-20, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On 20/05/2023 19:08, pH wrote:
>>> On 2023-05-18, Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> wrote:
>>>> Are there any issues with installing a current version of Linux on a MacBook
>>>> Pro (13inch Mid 2012). Will a typical (PC) [Live/]Installer ISO work (eg Mint
>>>> 21.1 or Ubuntu 20.04 or Ubuntu 22.04 or Debian 10), or do I need special
>>>> installer (Mac specific) media?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I see down the thread that it's possible.
>>>
>>> I have my brother's old 2011 MB Pro and was not able to get it to boot from
>>> either the Superdrive--which does not seem to work...gummed up over the
> >> years perhaps--or the USB.
>>>
>>> I followed all the "howtos" I could on the internet about getting the thing
>>> to boot from USB...maybe it's just too early for that.
>>>
>>> It's been a while since I looked at it but it is Intel.
>>>
>>> If you acheive success (K'Pla!) maybe you can give a quick note of how you
>>> got it to boot from the USB.
>>>
>>> As I recall when I got to the boot page the only options I had were the HD
>>> and CD...no USB entry at all, and w/ the CD non-resonsive...well....
>>>
>>> pH in Aptos
>>
>> Well CD drives are not expensive at all, and sometimes a USB CD drive
>> will work
>>
>> id research the net to see if things other than the CD drive will boot.
>> And or work out why the CD drive wont...
>>
>
> Oh...okay, if the Apple CD is not anything special and not too dear, maybe
> I'll give that a try. I've had it apart to replace the battery so I should
> be able to figure it out.
>
> pH

CD drives in INTEL era apple kit are generic IDE or SATA drives. The
only thing Apple make is the case and the logo. And the boot ROM.

--
You can get much farther with a kind word and a gun than you can with a
kind word alone.

Al Capone

pH <wNOSP...@gmail.org> [p]:
p> I have my brother's old 2011 MB Pro and was not able to get it to
p> boot from either the Superdrive--which does not seem to work...
p> gummed up over the years perhaps--or the USB

No 'network boot' (a.k.a. boot from NetBoot service) option?

On 2023-05-21, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 21/05/2023 02:07, pH wrote:
>> On 2023-05-20, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 20/05/2023 19:08, pH wrote:
>>>> On 2023-05-18, Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> wrote:
>>>>> Are there any issues with installing a current version of Linux on a MacBook
>>>>> Pro (13inch Mid 2012). Will a typical (PC) [Live/]Installer ISO work (eg Mint
>>>>> 21.1 or Ubuntu 20.04 or Ubuntu 22.04 or Debian 10), or do I need special
>>>>> installer (Mac specific) media?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I see down the thread that it's possible.
>>>>
>>>> I have my brother's old 2011 MB Pro and was not able to get it to boot from
>>>> either the Superdrive--which does not seem to work...gummed up over the
>> >> years perhaps--or the USB.
>>>>
>>>> I followed all the "howtos" I could on the internet about getting the thing
>>>> to boot from USB...maybe it's just too early for that.
>>>>
>>>> It's been a while since I looked at it but it is Intel.
>>>>
>>>> If you acheive success (K'Pla!) maybe you can give a quick note of how you
>>>> got it to boot from the USB.
>>>>
>>>> As I recall when I got to the boot page the only options I had were the HD
>>>> and CD...no USB entry at all, and w/ the CD non-resonsive...well....
>>>>
>>>> pH in Aptos
>>>
>>> Well CD drives are not expensive at all, and sometimes a USB CD drive
>>> will work
>>>
>>> id research the net to see if things other than the CD drive will boot.
>>> And or work out why the CD drive wont...
>>>
>>
>> Oh...okay, if the Apple CD is not anything special and not too dear, maybe
>> I'll give that a try. I've had it apart to replace the battery so I should
>> be able to figure it out.
>>
>> pH
>
> CD drives in INTEL era apple kit are generic IDE or SATA drives. The
> only thing Apple make is the case and the logo. And the boot ROM.
>

Good to know. I took a look at YouTube university and my particular model
looks easist of all (2011) and I see CD drives on eBay for the princely sum
of $9 and up....looks like nothing to lose by trying...it'd be cool to bring
it back to use.

I think one poser said he likes Mint Cinnamon best......

We'll see how it goes.

pH in Aptos

On 2023-05-22, Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-202305.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> wrote:
> pH <wNOSP...@gmail.org> [p]:
> p> I have my brother's old 2011 MB Pro and was not able to get it to
> p> boot from either the Superdrive--which does not seem to work...
> p> gummed up over the years perhaps--or the USB
>
> No 'network boot' (a.k.a. boot from NetBoot service) option?
>

I don't recall seeing that....but I would not have any idea what to do in
that case anyway. I'm only about a '2' on my 1-10 scale of Linux acumen.
Mainly just a user.

pH

On 22/05/2023 20:56, pH wrote:
> On 2023-05-21, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On 21/05/2023 02:07, pH wrote:
>>> On 2023-05-20, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 20/05/2023 19:08, pH wrote:
>>>>> On 2023-05-18, Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Are there any issues with installing a current version of Linux on a MacBook
>>>>>> Pro (13inch Mid 2012). Will a typical (PC) [Live/]Installer ISO work (eg Mint
>>>>>> 21.1 or Ubuntu 20.04 or Ubuntu 22.04 or Debian 10), or do I need special
>>>>>> installer (Mac specific) media?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I see down the thread that it's possible.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have my brother's old 2011 MB Pro and was not able to get it to boot from
>>>>> either the Superdrive--which does not seem to work...gummed up over the
>>> >> years perhaps--or the USB.
>>>>>
>>>>> I followed all the "howtos" I could on the internet about getting the thing
>>>>> to boot from USB...maybe it's just too early for that.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's been a while since I looked at it but it is Intel.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you acheive success (K'Pla!) maybe you can give a quick note of how you
>>>>> got it to boot from the USB.
>>>>>
>>>>> As I recall when I got to the boot page the only options I had were the HD
>>>>> and CD...no USB entry at all, and w/ the CD non-resonsive...well....
>>>>>
>>>>> pH in Aptos
>>>>
>>>> Well CD drives are not expensive at all, and sometimes a USB CD drive
>>>> will work
>>>>
>>>> id research the net to see if things other than the CD drive will boot.
>>>> And or work out why the CD drive wont...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Oh...okay, if the Apple CD is not anything special and not too dear, maybe
>>> I'll give that a try. I've had it apart to replace the battery so I should
>>> be able to figure it out.
>>>
>>> pH
>>
>> CD drives in INTEL era apple kit are generic IDE or SATA drives. The
>> only thing Apple make is the case and the logo. And the boot ROM.
>>
>
> Good to know. I took a look at YouTube university and my particular model
> looks easist of all (2011) and I see CD drives on eBay for the princely sum
> of $9 and up....looks like nothing to lose by trying...it'd be cool to bring
> it back to use.
>
> I think one poser said he likes Mint Cinnamon best......
>
Cinnamon has more eye candy, chews a bit more CPU and is not quite as
versatile as Mint Mate.
But its a very sweet distro and window manager

I use MATE because its the closest thing to XP windows which had a
simple look and feel, but it also has multiple virtual screens which
wasn't a (default) feature of cinnamon last time I loaded it.
A longish time ago.
These days I like to stick as close to the standard distro defaults as
possible to avoid support issues.

> We'll see how it goes.
>
Best of luck.
> pH in Aptos
>

--
The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to
rule.
– H. L. Mencken, American journalist, 1880-1956

On 2023-05-22, pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org> wrote:
> On 2023-05-21, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On 21/05/2023 02:07, pH wrote:
>>> On 2023-05-20, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 20/05/2023 19:08, pH wrote:
>>>>> On 2023-05-18, Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Are there any issues with installing a current version of Linux on a MacBook
>>>>>> Pro (13inch Mid 2012). Will a typical (PC) [Live/]Installer ISO work (eg Mint
>>>>>> 21.1 or Ubuntu 20.04 or Ubuntu 22.04 or Debian 10), or do I need special
>>>>>> installer (Mac specific) media?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I see down the thread that it's possible.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have my brother's old 2011 MB Pro and was not able to get it to boot from
>>>>> either the Superdrive--which does not seem to work...gummed up over the
>>> >> years perhaps--or the USB.
>>>>>
>>>>> I followed all the "howtos" I could on the internet about getting the thing
>>>>> to boot from USB...maybe it's just too early for that.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's been a while since I looked at it but it is Intel.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you acheive success (K'Pla!) maybe you can give a quick note of how you
>>>>> got it to boot from the USB.
>>>>>
>>>>> As I recall when I got to the boot page the only options I had were the HD
>>>>> and CD...no USB entry at all, and w/ the CD non-resonsive...well....
>>>>>
>>>>> pH in Aptos
>>>>
>>>> Well CD drives are not expensive at all, and sometimes a USB CD drive
>>>> will work
>>>>
>>>> id research the net to see if things other than the CD drive will boot.
>>>> And or work out why the CD drive wont...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Oh...okay, if the Apple CD is not anything special and not too dear, maybe
>>> I'll give that a try. I've had it apart to replace the battery so I should
>>> be able to figure it out.
>>>
>>> pH
>>
>> CD drives in INTEL era apple kit are generic IDE or SATA drives. The
>> only thing Apple make is the case and the logo. And the boot ROM.
>>
>
> Good to know. I took a look at YouTube university and my particular model
> looks easist of all (2011) and I see CD drives on eBay for the princely sum
> of $9 and up....looks like nothing to lose by trying...it'd be cool to bring
> it back to use.
>
> I think one poser said he likes Mint Cinnamon best......

That's "poster", of course! What a difference a letter makes.

pH

>
> We'll see how it goes.
>
> pH in Aptos
>