On Sun, 28 Apr 2024 09:15:31 +0100, Roland Perry wrote:
> In message <rrfp2jpuqs63p4vnsjspcb4m09012isjth@4ax.com>, at 10:07:58 on
> Sat, 27 Apr 2024, Ken <ken@birchanger.com> remarked:
>>The GWR app allows you to book seats (and bike places) without buying a
>>ticket, and seems to work on all TOCs that have reservations (even those
>>pointless train reservation without a specified seat).
>
> They aren't pointless, it's a way to persuade people who have bought a
> cheap AP ticket to travel on the intended train.

I think the suggestion was that it is "pointless" to offer them as a
standalone reservation. If you have a flexible ticket, it makes sense to
add a (separate) seat reservation, as it will ensure you get a seat.
Adding a train reservation to a flexible ticket doesn't guarantee a seat,
so adds nothing over just boarding that train without one.

Mike

Mike Humphrey wrote:

> On Sun, 28 Apr 2024 09:15:31 +0100, Roland Perry wrote:
>> In message <rrfp2jpuqs63p4vnsjspcb4m09012isjth@4ax.com>, at 10:07:58 on
>> Sat, 27 Apr 2024, Ken <ken@birchanger.com> remarked:
>>>The GWR app allows you to book seats (and bike places) without buying a
>>>ticket, and seems to work on all TOCs that have reservations (even those
>>>pointless train reservation without a specified seat).
>>
>> They aren't pointless, it's a way to persuade people who have bought a
>> cheap AP ticket to travel on the intended train.

> I think the suggestion was that it is "pointless" to offer them as a
> standalone reservation. If you have a flexible ticket, it makes sense to
> add a (separate) seat reservation, as it will ensure you get a seat.
> Adding a train reservation to a flexible ticket doesn't guarantee a seat,
> so adds nothing over just boarding that train without one.

May part of standees be bumped?

Regards, ULF

In message <7d36accd2503b37a3fb5250a30a316e6@www.novabbs.org>, at
09:30:18 on Sun, 28 Apr 2024, ulf_kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> remarked:
>Mike Humphrey wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 28 Apr 2024 09:15:31 +0100, Roland Perry wrote:
>>> In message <rrfp2jpuqs63p4vnsjspcb4m09012isjth@4ax.com>, at 10:07:58 on
>>> Sat, 27 Apr 2024, Ken <ken@birchanger.com> remarked:
>>>>The GWR app allows you to book seats (and bike places) without buying a
>>>>ticket, and seems to work on all TOCs that have reservations (even those
>>>>pointless train reservation without a specified seat).
>>> They aren't pointless, it's a way to persuade people who have
>>>bought a
>>> cheap AP ticket to travel on the intended train.
>
>> I think the suggestion was that it is "pointless" to offer them as a
>>standalone reservation. If you have a flexible ticket, it makes sense
>>to add a (separate) seat reservation, as it will ensure you get a
>>seat. Adding a train reservation to a flexible ticket doesn't
>>guarantee a seat, so adds nothing over just boarding that train without one.

It seemed to me to be a general observation, and obviously no sane
person would request one if they had an open ticket.

But can they even be requested (my simpler seat reservation was
bounced).

>May part of standees be bumped?

No. Apart from anything else there's no staff on the train to organise
that.
--
Roland Perry

On Sun, 28 Apr 2024 09:15:31 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk>
wrote:

>
>>It's not that easy to get to: I think you need to go to My Bookings or
>>something, even though you don't have any. Seat61 explains it.
>
>There's a tab called "My Tickets". And if you try to make a seat
>reservation without a ticket it gobbledegooks: "30026 There was a
>problem processing the journey planning results for the requested
>operation".
>
Normal for Ely.

Maybe you need to go to their site. In any case it's something I do
regularly when on a Rover.

In message <s6nu2jlbjbslkphv7da706tlaitgrvvhrs@4ax.com>, at 09:40:48 on
Mon, 29 Apr 2024, Ken <ken@birchanger.com> remarked:
>On Sun, 28 Apr 2024 09:15:31 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk>
>wrote:
>
>
>>
>>>It's not that easy to get to: I think you need to go to My Bookings or
>>>something, even though you don't have any. Seat61 explains it.
>>
>>There's a tab called "My Tickets". And if you try to make a seat
>>reservation without a ticket it gobbledegooks: "30026 There was a
>>problem processing the journey planning results for the requested
>>operation".
>>
>Normal for Ely.

What on earth are you prattling on about? I was doing a mystery purchase
of an Avanti reservation using the GWR app.

>Maybe you need to go to their site.

How do you think I got the error message without going to their site?

>In any case it's something I do regularly when on a Rover.

So why did my search fail so spectacularly with the gobbledegook error
message.
--
Roland Perry

On Mon, 29 Apr 2024 13:35:36 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk>
wrote:

>In message <s6nu2jlbjbslkphv7da706tlaitgrvvhrs@4ax.com>, at 09:40:48 on
>Mon, 29 Apr 2024, Ken <ken@birchanger.com> remarked:
>>On Sun, 28 Apr 2024 09:15:31 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>It's not that easy to get to: I think you need to go to My Bookings or
>>>>something, even though you don't have any. Seat61 explains it.
>>>
>>>There's a tab called "My Tickets". And if you try to make a seat
>>>reservation without a ticket it gobbledegooks: "30026 There was a
>>>problem processing the journey planning results for the requested
>>>operation".
>>>
>>Normal for Ely.
>
You know perfectly well. Things that work for most of us always,
without fail, don't work for you.

>What on earth are you prattling on about? I was doing a mystery purchase
>of an Avanti reservation using the GWR app.
>

>

>How do you think I got the error message without going to their site?

Make your mind up. Did you use their app, or did you use a browser to
go directly to their site?

>
>>In any case it's something I do regularly when on a Rover.
>
>So why did my search fail so spectacularly with the gobbledegook error
>message.

Normal for Ely.