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* Class 484Muttley
+* Re: Class 484Graeme Wall
|+* Re: Class 484Muttley
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||  `* Re: Class 484Sam Wilson
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|+* Re: Class 484Alan Lee
||+* Re: Class 484Graeme Wall
|||`- Re: Class 484Marland
||`- Re: Class 484Muttley
|`* Re: Class 484Charles Ellson
| `* Re: Class 484Recliner
|  +* Re: Class 484Charles Ellson
|  |`* Re: Class 484Muttley
|  | `* Re: Class 484Charles Ellson
|  |  `* Re: Class 484Muttley
|  |   `* Re: Class 484Charles Ellson
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|  |     `* Re: Class 484Charles Ellson
|  |      `- Re: Class 484Muttley
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`* Re: Class 484Marland
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 |  |||        `* Re: Class 484Nick Finnigan
 |  |||         `- Re: Class 484Certes
 |  ||+* Re: Class 484Roland Perry
 |  |||`- Re: Class 484Muttley
 |  ||`* Re: Class 484Sam Wilson
 |  || `* Re: Class 484Roland Perry
 |  ||  +* Re: Class 484Clank
 |  ||  |+- Re: Class 484Roland Perry
 |  ||  |`* Re: Class 484Charles Ellson
 |  ||  | `- Re: Class 484Marland
 |  ||  +- Re: Class 484Ken
 |  ||  +* Re: Class 484Sam Wilson
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 |  ||  ||`* Re: Class 484Roland Perry
 |  ||  || `* Re: Class 484Muttley
 |  ||  ||  `* Re: Class 484Sam Wilson
 |  ||  ||   `- Re: Class 484Muttley
 |  ||  |`* Re: Class 484Roland Perry
 |  ||  | `* Re: Class 484Sam Wilson
 |  ||  |  `* Re: Class 484Roland Perry
 |  ||  |   `- Re: Class 484Sam Wilson
 |  ||  `* Re: Class 484Recliner
 |  ||   `* Re: Class 484Roland Perry
 |  ||    +* Re: Class and transport, not 484John Levine
 |  ||    |+- Re: Class and transport, not 484Recliner
 |  ||    |`- Re: Class and transport, not 484Roland Perry
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 |  ||    ||| +* Re: Class 484Roland Perry
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 |  ||    ||| | `* Re: Class 484Roland Perry
 |  ||    ||| |  +* Re: Class 484Tweed
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 |  ||    ||| |  |`* Re: Class 484Roland Perry
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 |  ||    ||| |  | |`* Re: Class 484Roland Perry
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 |  ||    `* Re: Class 484Charles Ellson
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 `* Re: Class 484Recliner

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Re: Class 484

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From: Muttley@dastardlyhq.com
Newsgroups: uk.transport.london,uk.railway
Subject: Re: Class 484
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2024 12:48:35 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - Wed, 24 Apr 2024 12:48 UTC

On 24 Apr 2024 10:08:41 GMT
Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk> wrote:
>Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Indeed. I got a rather tasteless offer to have my mother’s ashes
>> incorporated into various bits of jewellery. At least they stopped short of
>> an egg timer.
>>
>>
>
>Interesting, maybe it is a generation thing. My Nephew in Law who is 30
>specifically asked
>for some of his fathers ashes to be set aside for that purpose, though in
>this instance he was doing the incorporation himself, a bracelet and
>medallion thing he sometimes wears and some trinkets like a paperweight for
>his Mum.

What next, go medieval and cut off a digit before the funeral and stick it in
jewellry or a jar?

Some people are just wierd.

Re: Class 484

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From: roland@perry.uk (Roland Perry)
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Subject: Re: Class 484
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 by: Roland Perry - Wed, 24 Apr 2024 12:51 UTC

In message <v0ajch$28932$1@dont-email.me>, at 09:28:49 on Wed, 24 Apr
2024, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com remarked:
>On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 09:38:40 +0100
>Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>>In message <v0abbi$26jt5$1@dont-email.me>, at 07:11:46 on Wed, 24 Apr
>>2024, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com remarked:
>>>I doubt theres a "whole industry". More like a few sociopathic chancers.
>>
>>As usual, you'd be wrong. Partly because the nature of "funerals" has
>>changed so much in recent times. So is no longer a Church service, then
>>a trip to a muddy graveyard. More likely to be a celebration with the
>>actual cremation taking place out of sight <thread convergence> see all
>>those adverts on daytime TV.
>
>Celebration my arse. Human nature doesn't change. I'm sure some people
>celebrate when grandma or whoever has died and they know an inheritance is
>coming their way but in general a funeral is a sad time.

If someone dies after what's called "a good life", then people gather to
celebrate the deceased's contribution to the family, wider society and
so on.

>>>If anyone had tried videoing my mums funeral they'd have been ejected pdq
>>>with a boot up their arse.
>>
>>Your violent nature has raised its ugly head before.
>
>Anyone who raises their voice is violent in your mind.

Raising a boot is violent.
--
Roland Perry

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 by: Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - Wed, 24 Apr 2024 13:13 UTC

On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 13:51:51 +0100
Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>In message <v0ajch$28932$1@dont-email.me>, at 09:28:49 on Wed, 24 Apr
>2024, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com remarked:
>>Celebration my arse. Human nature doesn't change. I'm sure some people
>>celebrate when grandma or whoever has died and they know an inheritance is
>>coming their way but in general a funeral is a sad time.
>
>If someone dies after what's called "a good life", then people gather to
>celebrate the deceased's contribution to the family, wider society and
>so on.
>
>>>>If anyone had tried videoing my mums funeral they'd have been ejected pdq
>>>>with a boot up their arse.
>>>
>>>Your violent nature has raised its ugly head before.
>>
>>Anyone who raises their voice is violent in your mind.
>
>Raising a boot is violent.

There's getting a bit physical and there's violence. Violence would be glassing
them, dragging them to the bog and flushing their head in the bowl.

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From: ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk (Sam Wilson)
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 by: Sam Wilson - Thu, 25 Apr 2024 11:02 UTC

Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
> In message <v0agen$27kmc$1@dont-email.me>, at 08:38:47 on Wed, 24 Apr
> 2024, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com remarked:
>> On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 07:26:09 -0000 (UTC)
>> Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>> <Muttley@dastardlyhq.com> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 08:00:25 +0100
>>>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>>>>> In message <v08geb$1lt7v$1@dont-email.me>, at 14:26:19 on Tue, 23 Apr
>>>>> 2024, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com remarked:
>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Apr 2024 14:46:51 +0100
>>>>>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>> I've got a bit distracted by a request (via Facebook) from someone for
>>>>>>> footage of my (other) best friend's burial which took place in November.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who TF takes videos at a funeral?? Talk about in bad taste.
>>>>>
>>>>> There's a whole industry (similar to "Wedding Videos") doing it, so I
>>>>
>>>> I doubt theres a "whole industry". More like a few sociopathic chancers.
>>>>
>>>>> think you a bit out of touch, old chap. And what's wrong with such a
>>>>> clip, for someone unable to make it on the day. I know my friend would
>>>>> have approved, he didn't stand on ceremony.
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure what people *really* want when they're distressed and upset is
>>>> some eejit pointing a camera or smartphone in their face.
>>>>
>>>> If anyone had tried videoing my mums funeral they'd have been ejected pdq
>>>> with a boot up their arse.
>>>
>>> I attended at least two funerals by video during lockdown. It seems to
>>> have become a standard part of the crematorium and/or funeral director’s
>>> offering.
>>
>> Thats a very different circumstance. I'm talking about a normal funeral with
>> some prick going around videoing.
>
> Almost every word of that demonstrates you are at cross purposes.

I (shock, horror) agree with Roland (the shame, the shame!). What makes
you assume that that’s the circumstance he’s decribing?

Sam

--
The entity formerly known as Sam.Wilson@ed.ac.uk
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 by: ulf_kutzner - Fri, 26 Apr 2024 09:09 UTC

Rolf Mantel wrote:

> Am 16.04.2024 um 12:15 schrieb Roland Perry:
>> In message <uvk028$f7jh$1@dont-email.me>, at 19:44:08 on Mon, 15 Apr
>> 2024, Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> remarked:
>>
>>> Just dig an underground tunnel.
>>
>> They do tend to work better than overground tunnels. (I'll get my
>> Wombling coat).

> Actually, pre-fab overground tunnels on the seabed (like "cut-and-cover"
> on land) are significantly better value-for-money, that's why the tunnel
> from Germany to Denmark is being built that way

Add overhead noise barriers to that.

Regards, ULF

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<Muttley@dastardlyhq.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 13:51:51 +0100
> Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>> In message <v0ajch$28932$1@dont-email.me>, at 09:28:49 on Wed, 24 Apr
>> 2024, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com remarked:
>>> Celebration my arse. Human nature doesn't change. I'm sure some people
>>> celebrate when grandma or whoever has died and they know an inheritance is
>>> coming their way but in general a funeral is a sad time.
>>
>> If someone dies after what's called "a good life", then people gather to
>> celebrate the deceased's contribution to the family, wider society and
>> so on.
>>
>>>>> If anyone had tried videoing my mums funeral they'd have been ejected pdq
>>>>> with a boot up their arse.
>>>>
>>>> Your violent nature has raised its ugly head before.
>>>
>>> Anyone who raises their voice is violent in your mind.
>>
>> Raising a boot is violent.
>
> There's getting a bit physical and there's violence. Violence would be glassing
> them, dragging them to the bog and flushing their head in the bowl.

Makes me wish I had a daughter so I could forbid her from marrying you.

Sam

--
The entity formerly known as Sam.Wilson@ed.ac.uk
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On Fri, 26 Apr 2024 10:19:24 -0000 (UTC)
Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> wrote:
><Muttley@dastardlyhq.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 13:51:51 +0100
>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>>> In message <v0ajch$28932$1@dont-email.me>, at 09:28:49 on Wed, 24 Apr
>>> 2024, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com remarked:
>>>> Celebration my arse. Human nature doesn't change. I'm sure some people
>>>> celebrate when grandma or whoever has died and they know an inheritance is
>>>> coming their way but in general a funeral is a sad time.
>>>
>>> If someone dies after what's called "a good life", then people gather to
>>> celebrate the deceased's contribution to the family, wider society and
>>> so on.
>>>
>>>>>> If anyone had tried videoing my mums funeral they'd have been ejected pdq
>
>>>>>> with a boot up their arse.
>>>>>
>>>>> Your violent nature has raised its ugly head before.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone who raises their voice is violent in your mind.
>>>
>>> Raising a boot is violent.
>>
>> There's getting a bit physical and there's violence. Violence would be
>glassing
>> them, dragging them to the bog and flushing their head in the bowl.
>
>Makes me wish I had a daughter so I could forbid her from marrying you.

What makes you think I'd want to marry any of your offspring anyway?

Re: Class 484

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 by: Bevan Price - Mon, 29 Apr 2024 16:36 UTC

On 24/04/2024 09:19, Tweed wrote:
> Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk> wrote:
>> <Muttley@dastardlyhq.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 08:00:25 +0100
>>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>>>> In message <v08geb$1lt7v$1@dont-email.me>, at 14:26:19 on Tue, 23 Apr
>>>> 2024, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com remarked:
>>>>> On Tue, 23 Apr 2024 14:46:51 +0100
>>>>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> I've got a bit distracted by a request (via Facebook) from someone for
>>>>>> footage of my (other) best friend's burial which took place in November.
>>>>>
>>>>> Who TF takes videos at a funeral?? Talk about in bad taste.
>>>>
>>>> There's a whole industry (similar to "Wedding Videos") doing it, so I
>>>
>>> I doubt theres a "whole industry". More like a few sociopathic chancers.
>>>
>>
>> In this instance Roland is right, Funeral directors are very commercially
>> minded these days and it is another opportunity to add an optional but
>> money making extra ,along with the hire of expensive horse drawn hearses
>> for people whose only contact with horses before has been a bet on the
>> Grand National.
>>
>> GH
>>
>
> Indeed. I got a rather tasteless offer to have my mother’s ashes
> incorporated into various bits of jewellery. At least they stopped short of
> an egg timer.
>

Sounds almost as distasteful as the musician who claims to have a tattoo
containing ashes from the late singer "Lemmy" (of Motorhead fame).

https://planetradio.co.uk/planet-rock/news/rock-news/james-hetfield-lemmy-ashes-tattoo/

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On Mon, 29 Apr 2024 17:36:38 +0100
Bevan Price <bevanprice666@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 24/04/2024 09:19, Tweed wrote:
>> Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk> wrote:
>>> <Muttley@dastardlyhq.com> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 08:00:25 +0100
>>>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>>>>> In message <v08geb$1lt7v$1@dont-email.me>, at 14:26:19 on Tue, 23 Apr
>>>>> 2024, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com remarked:
>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Apr 2024 14:46:51 +0100
>>>>>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>> I've got a bit distracted by a request (via Facebook) from someone for
>>>>>>> footage of my (other) best friend's burial which took place in November.
>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who TF takes videos at a funeral?? Talk about in bad taste.
>>>>>
>>>>> There's a whole industry (similar to "Wedding Videos") doing it, so I
>>>>
>>>> I doubt theres a "whole industry". More like a few sociopathic chancers.
>>>>
>>>
>>> In this instance Roland is right, Funeral directors are very commercially
>>> minded these days and it is another opportunity to add an optional but
>>> money making extra ,along with the hire of expensive horse drawn hearses
>>> for people whose only contact with horses before has been a bet on the
>>> Grand National.
>>>
>>> GH
>>>
>>
>> Indeed. I got a rather tasteless offer to have my mother’s ashes
>> incorporated into various bits of jewellery. At least they stopped short of
>> an egg timer.
>>
>
>Sounds almost as distasteful as the musician who claims to have a tattoo
>containing ashes from the late singer "Lemmy" (of Motorhead fame).
>
>https://planetradio.co.uk/planet-rock/news/rock-news/james-hetfield-lemmy-ashes
>-tattoo/

Definately not in good taste but then musicians can be a wierd bunch. Or you
could look at it as publicity for the lead singer of a band who haven't
released a decent album since 1990s Black.

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 by: Blueshirt - Tue, 30 Apr 2024 13:24 UTC

Bevan Price wrote:

> On 24/04/2024 09:19, Tweed wrote:
> >
> > Indeed. I got a rather tasteless offer to have my mother’s
> > ashes incorporated into various bits of jewellery. At least
> > they stopped short of an egg timer.
>
> Sounds almost as distasteful as the musician who claims to
> have a tattoo containing ashes from the late singer "Lemmy"
> (of Motorhead fame).
>
>
https://planetradio.co.uk/planet-rock/news/rock-news/james-hetfield-lemmy-ashes-tattoo/

I don't know about distasteful - as they were mates - but it
certainly is very odd!


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