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by: Recliner - Sun, 7 Apr 2024 11:27 UTC

Why Virgin is returning to trains, by Richard Branson’s right-hand man

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by: Tweed - Sun, 7 Apr 2024 11:46 UTC

Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
> Why Virgin is returning to trains, by Richard Branson’s right-hand man
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> https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/204f7702-85bf-429a-8d68-373dcaca1f03?shareToken=6e3482df17da2526b5227ff77ae26327
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Unfortunately not much detail about a proposed ECML service. What’s
noticeable about the ECML north of Newcastle is how little traffic it
carries. I was having lunch the other day overlooking the Royal Border
Bridge at Berwick. During my whole lunch period (around 40 minutes) only
one train passed in each direction. (It wasn’t a strike day). Lumo services
are also noticeable by how short they are compared to LNER. If paths are in
short supply further south they are a waste.

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by: Recliner - Sun, 7 Apr 2024 12:28 UTC

On Sun, 7 Apr 2024 11:46:43 -0000 (UTC), Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:

>Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Why Virgin is returning to trains, by Richard Branson’s right-hand man
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>> https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/204f7702-85bf-429a-8d68-373dcaca1f03?shareToken=6e3482df17da2526b5227ff77ae26327
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>Unfortunately not much detail about a proposed ECML service. What’s
>noticeable about the ECML north of Newcastle is how little traffic it
>carries.

I remember how Michael Bell admitted this, while simultaneously wanting HS2 to go that way.

> I was having lunch the other day overlooking the Royal Border
>Bridge at Berwick. During my whole lunch period (around 40 minutes) only
>one train passed in each direction. (It wasn’t a strike day). Lumo services
>are also noticeable by how short they are compared to LNER. If paths are in
>short supply further south they are a waste.

Yes, Lumo is looking at lengthening its trains, either by running double 5-car units, or lengthening them to seven or
nine-carriages.

I've suggested that HT and Lumo services could join at Doncaster, jointly using only a single path on the southern ECML.

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by: Coffee - Sun, 7 Apr 2024 12:32 UTC

On 07/04/2024 12:46, Tweed wrote:
> Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Why Virgin is returning to trains, by Richard Branson’s right-hand man
>>
>> https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/204f7702-85bf-429a-8d68-373dcaca1f03?shareToken=6e3482df17da2526b5227ff77ae26327
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> Unfortunately not much detail about a proposed ECML service. What’s
> noticeable about the ECML north of Newcastle is how little traffic it
> carries. I was having lunch the other day overlooking the Royal Border
> Bridge at Berwick. During my whole lunch period (around 40 minutes) only
> one train passed in each direction. (It wasn’t a strike day). Lumo services
> are also noticeable by how short they are compared to LNER. If paths are in
> short supply further south they are a waste.
>

Good grief. Virgin are responsible for some of the most uncomfortable
and unpleasant trains running on the UK network.

Subject	Author
The return of Virgin Trains to the ECML?	Recliner
Re: The return of Virgin Trains to the ECML?	Tweed
Re: The return of Virgin Trains to the ECML?	Recliner
Re: The return of Virgin Trains to the ECML?	Coffee