I was travelling on a TGV inOui service this morning, and noticed this new
portal display when you connect your device to the free onboard WiFi:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/recliner/53608768343/in/photostream/lightbox/

It's the equivalent to the moving map display on planes, but I've not
noticed it before on a train. You can zoom in or out, view the timetable,
get information about neighbouring towns, etc. As Neil wasn't driving, the
train cruised at only about 280-290 km/h, and never got above 295 km/h.

On 24/03/2024 20:50, Recliner wrote:
> I was travelling on a TGV inOui service this morning, and noticed this new
> portal display when you connect your device to the free onboard WiFi:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/recliner/53608768343/in/photostream/lightbox/
>
> It's the equivalent to the moving map display on planes, but I've not
> noticed it before on a train. You can zoom in or out, view the timetable,
> get information about neighbouring towns, etc. As Neil wasn't driving, the
> train cruised at only about 280-290 km/h, and never got above 295 km/h.
>
>
>

Saw a similar thing on Amtrak a while back while travelling down the
east coast.

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read.

In message <Gm0MN.78832$bml7.56036@fx10.ams1>, at 20:50:46 on Sun, 24
Mar 2024, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>I was travelling on a TGV inOui service this morning, and noticed this new
>portal display when you connect your device to the free onboard WiFi:
>
>https://www.flickr.com/photos/recliner/53608768343/in/photostream/lightbox/
>
>It's the equivalent to the moving map display on planes, but I've not
>noticed it before on a train. You can zoom in or out, view the timetable,
>get information about neighbouring towns, etc. As Neil wasn't driving, the
>train cruised at only about 280-290 km/h, and never got above 295 km/h.

That looks very like the display available on ECML main line trains for
at least a decade.
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
> In message <Gm0MN.78832$bml7.56036@fx10.ams1>, at 20:50:46 on Sun, 24
> Mar 2024, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>> I was travelling on a TGV inOui service this morning, and noticed this new
>> portal display when you connect your device to the free onboard WiFi:
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/recliner/53608768343/in/photostream/lightbox/
>>
>> It's the equivalent to the moving map display on planes, but I've not
>> noticed it before on a train. You can zoom in or out, view the timetable,
>> get information about neighbouring towns, etc. As Neil wasn't driving, the
>> train cruised at only about 280-290 km/h, and never got above 295 km/h.
>
> That looks very like the display available on ECML main line trains for
> at least a decade.

Displayed on your own device, with interactive controls?

In message <K5cMN.378020$7uxe.197664@fx09.ams1>, at 10:11:54 on Mon, 25
Mar 2024, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>> In message <Gm0MN.78832$bml7.56036@fx10.ams1>, at 20:50:46 on Sun, 24
>> Mar 2024, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>>> I was travelling on a TGV inOui service this morning, and noticed this new
>>> portal display when you connect your device to the free onboard WiFi:
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/recliner/53608768343/in/photostream/lightbox/
>>>
>>> It's the equivalent to the moving map display on planes, but I've not
>>> noticed it before on a train. You can zoom in or out, view the timetable,
>>> get information about neighbouring towns, etc. As Neil wasn't driving, the
>>> train cruised at only about 280-290 km/h, and never got above 295 km/h.
>>
>> That looks very like the display available on ECML main line trains for
>> at least a decade.
>
>Displayed on your own device, with interactive controls?

Yes. Actually it's longer ago than that, because I'd have been one of
the few people with a laptop.
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
> In message <K5cMN.378020$7uxe.197664@fx09.ams1>, at 10:11:54 on Mon, 25
> Mar 2024, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>>> In message <Gm0MN.78832$bml7.56036@fx10.ams1>, at 20:50:46 on Sun, 24
>>> Mar 2024, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>>>> I was travelling on a TGV inOui service this morning, and noticed this new
>>>> portal display when you connect your device to the free onboard WiFi:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/recliner/53608768343/in/photostream/lightbox/
>>>>
>>>> It's the equivalent to the moving map display on planes, but I've not
>>>> noticed it before on a train. You can zoom in or out, view the timetable,
>>>> get information about neighbouring towns, etc. As Neil wasn't driving, the
>>>> train cruised at only about 280-290 km/h, and never got above 295 km/h.
>>>
>>> That looks very like the display available on ECML main line trains for
>>> at least a decade.
>>
>> Displayed on your own device, with interactive controls?
>
> Yes. Actually it's longer ago than that, because I'd have been one of
> the few people with a laptop.

What functions were available in it?

In message <oUhMN.226284$Fr1.200089@fx11.ams1>, at 16:47:16 on Mon, 25
Mar 2024, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>> In message <K5cMN.378020$7uxe.197664@fx09.ams1>, at 10:11:54 on Mon, 25
>> Mar 2024, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>>>> In message <Gm0MN.78832$bml7.56036@fx10.ams1>, at 20:50:46 on Sun, 24
>>>> Mar 2024, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>>>>> I was travelling on a TGV inOui service this morning, and noticed this new
>>>>> portal display when you connect your device to the free onboard WiFi:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>https://www.flickr.com/photos/recliner/53608768343/in/photostream/li
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's the equivalent to the moving map display on planes, but I've not
>>>>> noticed it before on a train. You can zoom in or out, view the timetable,
>>>>> get information about neighbouring towns, etc. As Neil wasn't driving, the
>>>>> train cruised at only about 280-290 km/h, and never got above 295 km/h.
>>>>
>>>> That looks very like the display available on ECML main line trains for
>>>> at least a decade.
>>>
>>> Displayed on your own device, with interactive controls?
>>
>> Yes. Actually it's longer ago than that, because I'd have been one of
>> the few people with a laptop.
>
>What functions were available in it?

It had at least mapping and LDBs. But it was a long time ago. GNER was a
pioneer in both on-train wifi and internet-accessible LDBs
--
Roland Perry

On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 12:20:30 +0000, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:

>In message <oUhMN.226284$Fr1.200089@fx11.ams1>, at 16:47:16 on Mon, 25
>Mar 2024, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>>Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>>> In message <K5cMN.378020$7uxe.197664@fx09.ams1>, at 10:11:54 on Mon, 25
>>> Mar 2024, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>>>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>>>>> In message <Gm0MN.78832$bml7.56036@fx10.ams1>, at 20:50:46 on Sun, 24
>>>>> Mar 2024, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>>>>>> I was travelling on a TGV inOui service this morning, and noticed this new
>>>>>> portal display when you connect your device to the free onboard WiFi:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>https://www.flickr.com/photos/recliner/53608768343/in/photostream/li
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's the equivalent to the moving map display on planes, but I've not
>>>>>> noticed it before on a train. You can zoom in or out, view the timetable,
>>>>>> get information about neighbouring towns, etc. As Neil wasn't driving, the
>>>>>> train cruised at only about 280-290 km/h, and never got above 295 km/h.
>>>>>
>>>>> That looks very like the display available on ECML main line trains for
>>>>> at least a decade.
>>>>
>>>> Displayed on your own device, with interactive controls?
>>>
>>> Yes. Actually it's longer ago than that, because I'd have been one of
>>> the few people with a laptop.
>>
>>What functions were available in it?
>
>It had at least mapping and LDBs.

LDBs?

The TGV system provides the current speed, estimated arrival time (which proved to be optimistic), journey timetable,
information on towns in the area, and more.

> But it was a long time ago. GNER was a
>pioneer in both on-train wifi and internet-accessible LDBs

Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 12:20:30 +0000, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>
> >In message <oUhMN.226284$Fr1.200089@fx11.ams1>, at 16:47:16 on Mon, 25
> >Mar 2024, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
> >>Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
> >>> In message <K5cMN.378020$7uxe.197664@fx09.ams1>, at 10:11:54 on Mon, 25
> >>> Mar 2024, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
> >>>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
> >>>>> In message <Gm0MN.78832$bml7.56036@fx10.ams1>, at 20:50:46 on Sun, 24
> >>>>> Mar 2024, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
> >>>>>> I was travelling on a TGV inOui service this morning, and noticed this new
> >>>>>> portal display when you connect your device to the free onboard WiFi:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>https://www.flickr.com/photos/recliner/53608768343/in/photostream/li
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It's the equivalent to the moving map display on planes, but I've not
> >>>>>> noticed it before on a train. You can zoom in or out, view the timetable,
> >>>>>> get information about neighbouring towns, etc. As Neil wasn't driving, the
> >>>>>> train cruised at only about 280-290 km/h, and never got above 295 km/h.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That looks very like the display available on ECML main line trains for
> >>>>> at least a decade.
> >>>>
> >>>> Displayed on your own device, with interactive controls?
> >>>
> >>> Yes. Actually it's longer ago than that, because I'd have been one of
> >>> the few people with a laptop.
> >>
> >>What functions were available in it?
> >
> >It had at least mapping and LDBs.
>
> LDBs?

Live departure boards

> The TGV system provides the current speed, estimated arrival time (which proved to be optimistic), journey timetable,
> information on towns in the area, and more.
>
> > But it was a long time ago. GNER was a
> >pioneer in both on-train wifi and internet-accessible LDBs

I think it was on the original Icomera system fitted to Mk3s and Mk4s on
GNER ~2004. There was a limited amount of content you could view without paying
for access (it was free in First Class but the rest had to pay, IIRC), and
the moving map and train time information was part of the free access.

Theo

In message <pa580jttrs8lvq0597teklb0k7d9rnhe4f@4ax.com>, at 12:50:04 on
Wed, 27 Mar 2024, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 12:20:30 +0000, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>
>>In message <oUhMN.226284$Fr1.200089@fx11.ams1>, at 16:47:16 on Mon, 25
>>Mar 2024, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>>>Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>>>> In message <K5cMN.378020$7uxe.197664@fx09.ams1>, at 10:11:54 on Mon, 25
>>>> Mar 2024, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>>>>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> In message <Gm0MN.78832$bml7.56036@fx10.ams1>, at 20:50:46 on Sun, 24
>>>>>> Mar 2024, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>>>>>>> I was travelling on a TGV inOui service this morning, and
>>>>>>>noticed this new
>>>>>>> portal display when you connect your device to the free onboard WiFi:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>https://www.flickr.com/photos/recliner/53608768343/in/photostream/li
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's the equivalent to the moving map display on planes, but I've not
>>>>>>> noticed it before on a train. You can zoom in or out, view the
>>>>>>>timetable,
>>>>>>> get information about neighbouring towns, etc. As Neil wasn't
>>>>>>>driving, the
>>>>>>> train cruised at only about 280-290 km/h, and never got above 295 km/h.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That looks very like the display available on ECML main line trains for
>>>>>> at least a decade.
>>>>>
>>>>> Displayed on your own device, with interactive controls?
>>>>
>>>> Yes. Actually it's longer ago than that, because I'd have been one of
>>>> the few people with a laptop.
>>>
>>>What functions were available in it?
>>
>>It had at least mapping and LDBs.
>
>LDBs?

<sigh> Live departure boards.

>The TGV system provides the current speed, estimated arrival time
>(which proved to be optimistic), journey timetable,
>information on towns in the area, and more.

It might have a little more info (the LDBs by implication do the
estimated arrival time and journey timetable) but they aren't the
*first* to do it.

>> But it was a long time ago. GNER was a
>>pioneer in both on-train wifi and internet-accessible LDBs

--
Roland Perry

In message <QZq*oQqGz@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>, at 14:16:26 on Wed,
27 Mar 2024, Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> remarked:
>> >>>>>>https://www.flickr.com/photos/recliner/53608768343/in/photostream/li
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> It's the equivalent to the moving map display on planes, but I've not
>> >>>>>> noticed it before on a train. You can zoom in or out, view the timetable,
>> >>>>>> get information about neighbouring towns, etc. As Neil wasn't driving, the
>> >>>>>> train cruised at only about 280-290 km/h, and never got above 295 km/h.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> That looks very like the display available on ECML main line trains for
>> >>>>> at least a decade.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Displayed on your own device, with interactive controls?
>> >>>
>> >>> Yes. Actually it's longer ago than that, because I'd have been one of
>> >>> the few people with a laptop.
>> >>
>> >>What functions were available in it?
>> >
>> >It had at least mapping and LDBs.
>>
>> LDBs?
>
>Live departure boards
>
>> The TGV system provides the current speed, estimated arrival time (which proved to be optimistic), journey timetable,
>> information on towns in the area, and more.
>>
>> > But it was a long time ago. GNER was a
>> >pioneer in both on-train wifi and internet-accessible LDBs
>
>I think it was on the original Icomera system fitted to Mk3s and Mk4s on
>GNER ~2004. There was a limited amount of content you could view without paying
>for access (it was free in First Class but the rest had to pay, IIRC), and
>the moving map and train time information was part of the free access.

Thankyou, now we just need recliner to accept this. It's not about him
being a bad person, but he just didn't get out enough in the early
noughties.
--
Roland Perry

On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 18:38:18 +0000, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:

>In message <pa580jttrs8lvq0597teklb0k7d9rnhe4f@4ax.com>, at 12:50:04 on
>Wed, 27 Mar 2024, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>>On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 12:20:30 +0000, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>In message <oUhMN.226284$Fr1.200089@fx11.ams1>, at 16:47:16 on Mon, 25
>>>Mar 2024, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>>>>Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>>>>> In message <K5cMN.378020$7uxe.197664@fx09.ams1>, at 10:11:54 on Mon, 25
>>>>> Mar 2024, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>>>>>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>> In message <Gm0MN.78832$bml7.56036@fx10.ams1>, at 20:50:46 on Sun, 24
>>>>>>> Mar 2024, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>>>>>>>> I was travelling on a TGV inOui service this morning, and
>>>>>>>>noticed this new
>>>>>>>> portal display when you connect your device to the free onboard WiFi:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>https://www.flickr.com/photos/recliner/53608768343/in/photostream/li
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's the equivalent to the moving map display on planes, but I've not
>>>>>>>> noticed it before on a train. You can zoom in or out, view the
>>>>>>>>timetable,
>>>>>>>> get information about neighbouring towns, etc. As Neil wasn't
>>>>>>>>driving, the
>>>>>>>> train cruised at only about 280-290 km/h, and never got above 295 km/h.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That looks very like the display available on ECML main line trains for
>>>>>>> at least a decade.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Displayed on your own device, with interactive controls?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes. Actually it's longer ago than that, because I'd have been one of
>>>>> the few people with a laptop.
>>>>
>>>>What functions were available in it?
>>>
>>>It had at least mapping and LDBs.
>>
>>LDBs?
>
><sigh> Live departure boards.
>
>>The TGV system provides the current speed, estimated arrival time
>>(which proved to be optimistic), journey timetable,
>>information on towns in the area, and more.
>
>It might have a little more info

Probably quite a lot more.

> (the LDBs by implication do the
>estimated arrival time and journey timetable) but they aren't the
>*first* to do it.

Nobody said they were.

In message <52sa0jh7q7n2cpd805f75adsvra8r8qlcq@4ax.com>, at 13:28:25 on
Thu, 28 Mar 2024, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 18:38:18 +0000, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>
>>In message <pa580jttrs8lvq0597teklb0k7d9rnhe4f@4ax.com>, at 12:50:04 on
>>Wed, 27 Mar 2024, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>>>On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 12:20:30 +0000, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>>In message <oUhMN.226284$Fr1.200089@fx11.ams1>, at 16:47:16 on Mon, 25
>>>>Mar 2024, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>>>>>Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> In message <K5cMN.378020$7uxe.197664@fx09.ams1>, at 10:11:54 on Mon, 25
>>>>>> Mar 2024, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>>>>>>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>> In message <Gm0MN.78832$bml7.56036@fx10.ams1>, at 20:50:46 on Sun, 24
>>>>>>>> Mar 2024, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>>>>>>>>> I was travelling on a TGV inOui service this morning, and
>>>>>>>>>noticed this new
>>>>>>>>> portal display when you connect your device to the free onboard WiFi:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>https://www.flickr.com/photos/recliner/53608768343/in/photostream/li
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's the equivalent to the moving map display on planes, but
>>>>>>>>>I've not noticed it before on a train. You can zoom in or out,
>>>>>>>>>view the timetable, get information about neighbouring towns,
>>>>>>>>>etc. As Neil wasn't driving, the train cruised at only about
>>>>>>>>>280-290 km/h, and never got above 295 km/h.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That looks very like the display available on ECML main line trains for
>>>>>>>> at least a decade.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Displayed on your own device, with interactive controls?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes. Actually it's longer ago than that, because I'd have been one of
>>>>>> the few people with a laptop.
>>>>>
>>>>>What functions were available in it?
>>>>
>>>>It had at least mapping and LDBs.
>>>
>>>LDBs?
>>
>><sigh> Live departure boards.
>>
>>>The TGV system provides the current speed, estimated arrival time
>>>(which proved to be optimistic), journey timetable,
>>>information on towns in the area, and more.
>>
>>It might have a little more info
>
>Probably quite a lot more.

One does expect a certain amount of progress in 20yrs.

>> (the LDBs by implication do the
>>estimated arrival time and journey timetable) but they aren't the
>>*first* to do it.
>
>Nobody said they were.

You were halfway there:

"It's the equivalent to the moving map display on planes, but
I've not noticed it before on a train."
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
> In message <52sa0jh7q7n2cpd805f75adsvra8r8qlcq@4ax.com>, at 13:28:25 on
> Thu, 28 Mar 2024, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>> On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 18:38:18 +0000, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> In message <pa580jttrs8lvq0597teklb0k7d9rnhe4f@4ax.com>, at 12:50:04 on
>>> Wed, 27 Mar 2024, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>>>> On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 12:20:30 +0000, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In message <oUhMN.226284$Fr1.200089@fx11.ams1>, at 16:47:16 on Mon, 25
>>>>> Mar 2024, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>>>>>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>> In message <K5cMN.378020$7uxe.197664@fx09.ams1>, at 10:11:54 on Mon, 25
>>>>>>> Mar 2024, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>>>>>>>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In message <Gm0MN.78832$bml7.56036@fx10.ams1>, at 20:50:46 on Sun, 24
>>>>>>>>> Mar 2024, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>>>>>>>>>> I was travelling on a TGV inOui service this morning, and
>>>>>>>>>> noticed this new
>>>>>>>>>> portal display when you connect your device to the free onboard WiFi:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/recliner/53608768343/in/photostream/li
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's the equivalent to the moving map display on planes, but
>>>>>>>>>> I've not noticed it before on a train. You can zoom in or out,
>>>>>>>>>> view the timetable, get information about neighbouring towns,
>>>>>>>>>> etc. As Neil wasn't driving, the train cruised at only about
>>>>>>>>>> 280-290 km/h, and never got above 295 km/h.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That looks very like the display available on ECML main line trains for
>>>>>>>>> at least a decade.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Displayed on your own device, with interactive controls?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes. Actually it's longer ago than that, because I'd have been one of
>>>>>>> the few people with a laptop.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What functions were available in it?
>>>>>
>>>>> It had at least mapping and LDBs.
>>>>
>>>> LDBs?
>>>
>>> <sigh> Live departure boards.
>>>
>>>> The TGV system provides the current speed, estimated arrival time
>>>> (which proved to be optimistic), journey timetable,
>>>> information on towns in the area, and more.
>>>
>>> It might have a little more info
>>
>> Probably quite a lot more.
>
> One does expect a certain amount of progress in 20yrs.

Yes

>
>>> (the LDBs by implication do the
>>> estimated arrival time and journey timetable) but they aren't the
>>> *first* to do it.
>>
>> Nobody said they were.
>
> You were halfway there:

Really? I'm happy to acknowledge that there are plenty of things that
exist without my noticing them. I feel no need to pretend to know
everything about everything.

> "It's the equivalent to the moving map display on planes, but
> I've not noticed it before on a train."

In message <DshNN.7672$Rt2.4714@fx10.ams1>, at 17:06:43 on Thu, 28 Mar
2024, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:

>>>> (the LDBs by implication do the estimated arrival time and journey
>>>>timetable) but they aren't the *first* to do it.
>>>
>>> Nobody said they were.
>>
>> You were halfway there:
>
>Really? I'm happy to acknowledge that there are plenty of things that
>exist without my noticing them. I feel no need to pretend to know
>everything about everything.
>
>> "It's the equivalent to the moving map display on planes, but
>> I've not noticed it before on a train."

It's the way things are phrased, with simple things which could clarify
the situation omitted.

How about "Who else does this, and since when; I haven't noticed it
before, despite being fairly widely travelled".

To avoid a prolonged debate, I'll assume that's what you really meant.
--
Roland Perry

On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 17:42:52 +0000, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk>
wrote:

>To avoid a prolonged debate, I'll assume that's what you really meant.

Yay, the rest of the world will mercifully be able to eat chocolate
eggs for a couple of days without having to deal with nuts.

PLEASE give up on yer constant bickering.

In message <6a1c0jp96fgiodiphi4jbpgbcm6vd1ep1v@4ax.com>, at 17:07:12 on
Thu, 28 Mar 2024, Nobody <jock@soccer.com> remarked:
>On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 17:42:52 +0000, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>To avoid a prolonged debate, I'll assume that's what you really meant.
>
>Yay, the rest of the world will mercifully be able to eat chocolate
>eggs for a couple of days without having to deal with nuts.
>
>PLEASE give up on yer constant bickering.

I'd be delighted if recliner didn't feel duty bound to quibble at almost
everything I post. He obviously "has too much time on his hands".

My own contributions are restricted to trying to get him to express his
views less ambiguously in the first place, not least because it gives
him an exit strategy of "that's not what I meant" when in a corner (and
rendering most of the subthread a waste of everyone's time). I would far
prefer an unambiguous statement at the start of each such subthread.
--
Roland Perry

On 25/3/24 07:50, Recliner wrote:
> I was travelling on a TGV inOui service this morning, and noticed this new
> portal display when you connect your device to the free onboard WiFi:
>
>
> It's the equivalent to the moving map display on planes, but I've not
> noticed it before on a train.

The inOui branded trains have had that from the start.

DB also do it on their ICE services. Used the map on both.

In message <uu78eb$g7j8$2@dont-email.me>, at 07:31:07 on Sat, 30 Mar
2024, Matthew Geier <matthew@sleeper.apana.org.au> remarked:
>On 25/3/24 07:50, Recliner wrote:
>> I was travelling on a TGV inOui service this morning, and noticed this new
>> portal display when you connect your device to the free onboard WiFi:
>>
>> It's the equivalent to the moving map display on planes, but I've
>>not
>> noticed it before on a train.
>
>The inOui branded trains have had that from the start.

May 2017 according to Wonkypedia.

>DB also do it on their ICE services. Used the map on both.

I think it comes as standard with one of the popular satellite-backhaul
on-train wifi systems.
--
Roland Perry

Matthew Geier <matthew@sleeper.apana.org.au> wrote:
> On 25/3/24 07:50, Recliner wrote:
>> I was travelling on a TGV inOui service this morning, and noticed this new
>> portal display when you connect your device to the free onboard WiFi:
>>
>>
>> It's the equivalent to the moving map display on planes, but I've not
>> noticed it before on a train.
>
> The inOui branded trains have had that from the start.
>
> DB also do it on their ICE services. Used the map on both.

I must have missed it on previous trips. I suppose that, once the Wi-Fi had
connected, I never opened the portal page.

On 30/03/2024 08:39, Recliner wrote:
> Matthew Geier <matthew@sleeper.apana.org.au> wrote:
>> On 25/3/24 07:50, Recliner wrote:
>>> I was travelling on a TGV inOui service this morning, and noticed this new
>>> portal display when you connect your device to the free onboard WiFi:
>>>
>>>
>>> It's the equivalent to the moving map display on planes, but I've not
>>> noticed it before on a train.
>>
>> The inOui branded trains have had that from the start.
>>
>> DB also do it on their ICE services. Used the map on both.
>
> I must have missed it on previous trips. I suppose that, once the Wi-Fi had
> connected, I never opened the portal page.
>

IIRC the Amtrak version comes up automatically when you connect to the
in-train wifi. That was 2013.
--
Graeme Wall
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