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From: xenolith@optusnet.com.au (Xeno)
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Subject: Re: Bring back physical controls
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 by: Xeno - Thu, 7 Mar 2024 12:38 UTC

On 7/3/2024 10:54 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 7/03/2024 9:50 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 7/3/2024 6:21 pm, Noddy wrote:
>
>>> Yeah, I saw them the last time we dropped the Santa Fe off for a
>>> service. They're interesting to say the least. The Ranger is large
>>> enough for me :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Caravans seem to be getting bigger and heavier so people are wanting
>> bigger tow vehicles, Landcruisers and most utes have 3.5t towing
>> capacity which is barely enough, the F trucks are 4.5t with some of
>> the bigger models with even more capacity although their drivers will
>> need a light truck license.
>> I wouldn't be surprised if they sell quite a few especially of the
>> fuel economy is reasonable when towing something heavy.
>
> Guy around the corner has one. He has a large boat that he hauls with
> it, but most of the time he just drives it as his daily. They're okay if
> you're into them I suppose, but I just find them too big to be
> practical. I parked next to one at Bunnings the other day, and it made
> the Ranger look positively tiny by comparison.
>
Oh dear, Darren just met someone with a *greater need* for phallic
compensation. And here was I thinking it wasn't possible!

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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 by: AB - Thu, 7 Mar 2024 21:30 UTC

Noddy wrote:
> On 7/03/2024 12:58 pm, Tony wrote:
>
> Shut the fuck up, you nym shifting attention whore.

Why on earth would I pay any heed to what you squeal Fraudster?

> No one gives a fuck about anything you have to say.

LOL!
Here you are, *AGAIN* claiming to know everything!

What a hypocritical buffoon you are.

alvey

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 by: Noddy - Fri, 8 Mar 2024 10:26 UTC

On 7/03/2024 11:44 am, Daryl wrote:

> BTW I was looking at a new F150 Lariat with a mate yesterday, his 79
> series Landcruiser is 10yrs old and done 200k km so he's looking to
> replace it, surprised that so far the F150 only comes with a petrol
> engine which seems like the wrong engine for that type of vehicle in
> Australia.

Forgot to mention to tell your mate to do his research before committing
to a petrol powered F150. The version sold in Oz uses the 3.5 Ecoboost
V6 which is proving to be horrendously unreliable in the US with
catastrophic engine failures being a common occurrence.

He'd be better off seeing if Ford plans to bring out the 5.0 Coyote
powered version which is an excellent engine, or opting for the Chevy
Silverado or the Dodge Ram.

The Dodge Ram is apparently the truck to have if you have to have a truck.

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Regards,
Noddy.

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 by: Xeno - Fri, 8 Mar 2024 10:47 UTC

On 8/3/2024 9:26 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 7/03/2024 11:44 am, Daryl wrote:
>
>> BTW I was looking at a new F150 Lariat with a mate yesterday, his 79
>> series Landcruiser is 10yrs old and done 200k km so he's looking to
>> replace it, surprised that so far the F150 only comes with a petrol
>> engine which seems like the wrong engine for that type of vehicle in
>> Australia.
>
> Forgot to mention to tell your mate to do his research before committing
> to a petrol powered F150. The version sold in Oz uses the 3.5 Ecoboost
> V6 which is proving to be horrendously unreliable in the US with
> catastrophic engine failures being a common occurrence.

Catastrophic engine failures? Ford? How unsurprising. And you bought a
Ford! hahahahaha
>
> He'd be better off seeing if Ford plans to bring out the 5.0 Coyote
> powered version which is an excellent engine, or opting for the Chevy
> Silverado or the Dodge Ram.

He has a 79 series Landcruiser, at 200k it should only just be run in.
Better to keep it, or replace it with another Toyota, than buy anything
*you recommend*.

>
> The Dodge Ram is apparently the truck to have if you have to have a truck.
>
Only for those with small balls - like you.

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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 by: Daryl - Fri, 8 Mar 2024 22:35 UTC

On 8/3/2024 9:26 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 7/03/2024 11:44 am, Daryl wrote:
>
>> BTW I was looking at a new F150 Lariat with a mate yesterday, his 79
>> series Landcruiser is 10yrs old and done 200k km so he's looking to
>> replace it, surprised that so far the F150 only comes with a petrol
>> engine which seems like the wrong engine for that type of vehicle in
>> Australia.
>
> Forgot to mention to tell your mate to do his research before committing
> to a petrol powered F150. The version sold in Oz uses the 3.5 Ecoboost
> V6 which is proving to be horrendously unreliable in the US with
> catastrophic engine failures being a common occurrence.
>
> He'd be better off seeing if Ford plans to bring out the 5.0 Coyote
> powered version which is an excellent engine, or opting for the Chevy
> Silverado or the Dodge Ram.
>
> The Dodge Ram is apparently the truck to have if you have to have a truck.
>

Mate is not a fan of the Ram, he's spoken to lots of Ram owners on his
travels and heard plenty of horror stories mostly relating to lack of
spare parts.
One person he spoke to had a trans control module failure, took several
months to get the part, he was traveling in WA but his home was Tasmania
so they left the Ram and caravan in WA and flew home, waited till it was
fixed them flew back to WA, apparently those problems are not unusual, I
doubt that Ford parts supply would be much better.
I doubt that he would buy any petrol ute for towing his caravan, they
use too much fuel, his 79 series averages approx 18lts/100km towing a 3
tonne van, his previous vehicle was an 80 series LC 4.5lt petrol and it
used closer to 28lts/100km towing the same van so he's wary of petrol
engines for heavy towing.

--
Daryl

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 by: Xeno - Sat, 9 Mar 2024 00:50 UTC

On 9/3/2024 9:35 am, Daryl wrote:
> On 8/3/2024 9:26 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 7/03/2024 11:44 am, Daryl wrote:
>>
>>> BTW I was looking at a new F150 Lariat with a mate yesterday, his 79
>>> series Landcruiser is 10yrs old and done 200k km so he's looking to
>>> replace it, surprised that so far the F150 only comes with a petrol
>>> engine which seems like the wrong engine for that type of vehicle in
>>> Australia.
>>
>> Forgot to mention to tell your mate to do his research before
>> committing to a petrol powered F150. The version sold in Oz uses the
>> 3.5 Ecoboost V6 which is proving to be horrendously unreliable in the
>> US with catastrophic engine failures being a common occurrence.
>>
>> He'd be better off seeing if Ford plans to bring out the 5.0 Coyote
>> powered version which is an excellent engine, or opting for the Chevy
>> Silverado or the Dodge Ram.
>>
>> The Dodge Ram is apparently the truck to have if you have to have a
>> truck.
>>
>
> Mate is not a fan of the Ram, he's spoken to lots of Ram owners on his
> travels and heard plenty of horror stories mostly relating to lack of
> spare parts.

Aren't you forgetting something? Darren's *experience* with such
vehicles is derived entirely from *Google*. Hmm, better to rephrase that
as *lack of experience*.

> One person he spoke to had a trans control module failure, took several
> months to get the part, he was traveling in WA but his home was Tasmania
> so they left the Ram and caravan in WA and flew home, waited till it was
> fixed them flew back to WA, apparently those problems are not unusual, I
> doubt that Ford parts supply would be much better.

When you have only a very small market share, you can expect this lack
of availability of spare parts inventory held locally.

> I doubt that he would buy any petrol ute for towing his caravan, they
> use too much fuel, his 79 series averages approx 18lts/100km towing a 3
> tonne van, his previous vehicle was an 80 series LC 4.5lt petrol and it
> used closer to 28lts/100km towing the same van so he's wary of petrol
> engines for heavy towing.

Again, Darren hasn't a clue in this area. Recall how he whinged about
his Holden ute being heavy on petrol, and he wasn't towing caravans with
that vehicle.

Anyway, your mate should stick with what he knows - his current Toyota
which is barely run in - or a new one of a similar model. Why would he
want to change the brand and run the gamut of more unknowns? Oh, and if
he sells his current 79 series, he'll get a huge rebate on his *Toyota
Tax*! You know, the higher up front price tag - it comes back as
*retained* resale value. Now that is something Darren has proven he
doesn't have a clue about. A financial wizard he ain't!

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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 by: Noddy - Sat, 9 Mar 2024 04:02 UTC

On 9/03/2024 9:35 am, Daryl wrote:
> On 8/3/2024 9:26 pm, Noddy wrote:

>> He'd be better off seeing if Ford plans to bring out the 5.0 Coyote
>> powered version which is an excellent engine, or opting for the Chevy
>> Silverado or the Dodge Ram.
>>
>> The Dodge Ram is apparently the truck to have if you have to have a
>> truck.
>>
>
> Mate is not a fan of the Ram, he's spoken to lots of Ram owners on his
> travels and heard plenty of horror stories mostly relating to lack of
> spare parts.
> One person he spoke to had a trans control module failure, took several
> months to get the part, he was traveling in WA but his home was Tasmania
> so they left the Ram and caravan in WA and flew home, waited till it was
> fixed them flew back to WA, apparently those problems are not unusual, I
> doubt that Ford parts supply would be much better.

Couldn't tell you, other than to say that both the Ram and the Silverado
rate *very* well in towing tests.

> I doubt that he would buy any petrol ute for towing his caravan, they
> use too much fuel, his 79 series averages approx 18lts/100km towing a 3
> tonne van, his previous vehicle was an 80 series LC 4.5lt petrol and it
> used closer to 28lts/100km towing the same van so he's wary of petrol
> engines for heavy towing.

How much weight is he looking at towing? If it's just 3 tonne then tell
him to look at a V6 diesel Ranger. I've towed a couple of 3+ tonne loads
in the last week and the thing is absolutely *awesome* at it. The
Wildtrak variant has inbuilt trailer sway control, inbuilt brake
controller, trailer backing assistance, and you can save trailers in an
on board database where you enter in the physical dimensions and it
makes allowances for them with the blind spot monitoring system.

It's a great engine that is near on perfect for a tow vehicle, and the
best part about it is that it's pretty economical. I towed a three tonne
load from Seaford to Bacchus last Friday, and it averaged 15l/100km for
the trip.

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Regards,
Noddy.

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 by: Xeno - Sat, 9 Mar 2024 04:39 UTC

On 9/3/2024 3:02 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 9/03/2024 9:35 am, Daryl wrote:
>> On 8/3/2024 9:26 pm, Noddy wrote:
>
>>> He'd be better off seeing if Ford plans to bring out the 5.0 Coyote
>>> powered version which is an excellent engine, or opting for the Chevy
>>> Silverado or the Dodge Ram.
>>>
>>> The Dodge Ram is apparently the truck to have if you have to have a
>>> truck.
>>>
>>
>> Mate is not a fan of the Ram, he's spoken to lots of Ram owners on his
>> travels and heard plenty of horror stories mostly relating to lack of
>> spare parts.
>> One person he spoke to had a trans control module failure, took
>> several months to get the part, he was traveling in WA but his home
>> was Tasmania so they left the Ram and caravan in WA and flew home,
>> waited till it was fixed them flew back to WA, apparently those
>> problems are not unusual, I doubt that Ford parts supply would be much
>> better.
>
> Couldn't tell you, other than to say that both the Ram and the Silverado
> rate *very* well in towing tests.

Of course you couldn't! You didn't even realise those towing tests you
mention relate to how well the load is towed, not how economically. And,
it has to be said, given the size of the RAM/Silverado in comparison to
a caravan, of course it would tow well.
>
>> I doubt that he would buy any petrol ute for towing his caravan, they
>> use too much fuel, his 79 series averages approx 18lts/100km towing a
>> 3 tonne van, his previous vehicle was an 80 series LC 4.5lt petrol and
>> it used closer to 28lts/100km towing the same van so he's wary of
>> petrol engines for heavy towing.
>
> How much weight is he looking at towing? If it's just 3 tonne then tell
> him to look at a V6 diesel Ranger. I've towed a couple of 3+ tonne loads
> in the last week and the thing is absolutely *awesome* at it. The
> Wildtrak variant has inbuilt trailer sway control, inbuilt brake
> controller, trailer backing assistance, and you can save trailers in an
> on board database where you enter in the physical dimensions and it
> makes allowances for them with the blind spot monitoring system.
>
> It's a great engine that is near on perfect for a tow vehicle, and the
> best part about it is that it's pretty economical. I towed a three tonne
> load from Seaford to Bacchus last Friday, and it averaged 15l/100km for
> the trip.

But he has a Toyota Darren! You're asking him to *downgrade* to a Ford?
Bit of a hard ask.

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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 by: lindsay - Sat, 9 Mar 2024 06:08 UTC

On 9/03/2024 11:50 am, Xeno wrote:

> Aren't you forgetting something? Darren's *experience* with such
> vehicles is derived entirely from *Google*. Hmm, better to rephrase that
> as *lack of experience*.

What exactly is *your* experiance with such vehicles, shit-fer-brains?

You're fucking hopeless. You make face-planting a career.

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 by: Daryl - Sat, 9 Mar 2024 06:42 UTC

On 9/3/2024 3:02 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 9/03/2024 9:35 am, Daryl wrote:
>> On 8/3/2024 9:26 pm, Noddy wrote:
>
>>> He'd be better off seeing if Ford plans to bring out the 5.0 Coyote
>>> powered version which is an excellent engine, or opting for the Chevy
>>> Silverado or the Dodge Ram.
>>>
>>> The Dodge Ram is apparently the truck to have if you have to have a
>>> truck.
>>>
>>
>> Mate is not a fan of the Ram, he's spoken to lots of Ram owners on his
>> travels and heard plenty of horror stories mostly relating to lack of
>> spare parts.
>> One person he spoke to had a trans control module failure, took
>> several months to get the part, he was traveling in WA but his home
>> was Tasmania so they left the Ram and caravan in WA and flew home,
>> waited till it was fixed them flew back to WA, apparently those
>> problems are not unusual, I doubt that Ford parts supply would be much
>> better.
>
> Couldn't tell you, other than to say that both the Ram and the Silverado
> rate *very* well in towing tests.
>
>> I doubt that he would buy any petrol ute for towing his caravan, they
>> use too much fuel, his 79 series averages approx 18lts/100km towing a
>> 3 tonne van, his previous vehicle was an 80 series LC 4.5lt petrol and
>> it used closer to 28lts/100km towing the same van so he's wary of
>> petrol engines for heavy towing.
>
> How much weight is he looking at towing? If it's just 3 tonne then tell
> him to look at a V6 diesel Ranger. I've towed a couple of 3+ tonne loads
> in the last week and the thing is absolutely *awesome* at it. The
> Wildtrak variant has inbuilt trailer sway control, inbuilt brake
> controller, trailer backing assistance, and you can save trailers in an
> on board database where you enter in the physical dimensions and it
> makes allowances for them with the blind spot monitoring system.
>
> It's a great engine that is near on perfect for a tow vehicle, and the
> best part about it is that it's pretty economical. I towed a three tonne
> load from Seaford to Bacchus last Friday, and it averaged 15l/100km for
> the trip.
>
>
>
>
Ok thanks, I'll be seeing him tonight so I'll mention it.

--
Daryl

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 by: Clocky - Sat, 9 Mar 2024 16:13 UTC

On 7/03/2024 8:05 am, Noddy wrote:

<snip BS>

It's one of the better systems around, and it works *very* well
> indeed.
>

You wouldn't have a fucking clue about that and there is nothing better
or remarkable about the deRanger system. It's a tradie ute with some
bling to attract poseurs like you ffs.

--
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Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

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 by: Clocky - Sat, 9 Mar 2024 16:13 UTC

On 7/03/2024 8:05 am, Noddy wrote:

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It's one of the better systems around, and it works *very* well
> indeed.
>

You wouldn't have a fucking clue about that and there is nothing better
or remarkable about the deRanger system. It's a tradie ute with some
bling to attract poseurs like you ffs.

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Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

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 by: Mighty Mouse - Sun, 10 Mar 2024 05:17 UTC

alvey wrote:
> Clocky wrote:
>> On 6/03/2024 2:41 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>>> https://arstechnica.com/cars/2024/03/carmakers-must-bring-back-buttons-to-get-good-safety-scores-in-europe/?comments=1&comments-page=1
>>>
>>>
>>> Manufacturers like touch screens because they seem "Cool" and adding
>>> a button on the screen is cheaper than adding a physical control.
>>>
>>> All controls regularly used while driving though should be physical,
>>> you can use them by feel, with a touch screen control you have to
>>> take your eyes off the road.
>>
>> Absolutely agree.
>
> Retro thinking. Voice Activation is the best (and probably cheapest)
> option. Although I rarely use use the version in the Benz because it
> never responds to, 'Hey Google'...
>
> Speaking of the MB... 4 year service the other day. $1,100 and nothing
> needed doing.
>
>

ha ha! capped price servicing on the ZS about $220 for 5 years I think

> alvey
>
>

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 by: Mighty Mouse - Sun, 10 Mar 2024 05:22 UTC

Daryl wrote:
> On 6/3/2024 9:06 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>> On 6/03/2024 7:28 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>> On 6/03/2024 5:41 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>> https://arstechnica.com/cars/2024/03/carmakers-must-bring-back-buttons-to-get-good-safety-scores-in-europe/?comments=1&comments-page=1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Manufacturers like touch screens because they seem "Cool" and
>>>> adding a button on the screen is cheaper than adding a physical
>>>> control.
>>>>
>>>> All controls regularly used while driving though should be
>>>> physical, you can use them by feel, with a touch screen control you
>>>> have to take your eyes off the road.
>>>
>>> I don't think it's that big a deal, although some of the better
>>> systems have voice activation. The Ranger does, and it works
>>> surprisingly well.
>>
>> If you can touch a point on a screen without looking at it you're
>> better at it than me, and 90 odd percent of the population. As for
>> voice control, it must be a lot better than any that I've seen. I
>> think that the Maz3 can initiate a phone call by voice, I must try it
>> some time.
>>
>
>  Voice control systems are certainly a lot better than they used to
> be, I think my wife uses that feature on her Golf but I prefer to
> press a button or turn a knob.
> If the car has Apple car play or Android auto you can just say "hey
> siri" or "hey google" to do things,

if you're stupid enough to have your phone listening to everything you
say, that is

> some people like that sort of thing but some don't and I'm the latter,
> talking to a phone or a screen seems silly to me.
>

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Xeno wrote:
> On 7/3/2024 11:12 am, Noddy wrote:
>> On 6/03/2024 10:33 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>> On 6/3/2024 9:06 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> If you can touch a point on a screen without looking at it you're
>>>> better at it than me, and 90 odd percent of the population. As for
>>>> voice control, it must be a lot better than any that I've seen. I
>>>> think that the Maz3 can initiate a phone call by voice, I must try
>>>> it some time.
>>>>
>>>
>>>   Voice control systems are certainly a lot better than they used to
>>> be, I think my wife uses that feature on her Golf but I prefer to
>>> press a button or turn a knob.
>>
>> It's certainly come a hell of a long way. In the Navara it was
>> available in foreign markets but disabled for Australia because the
>> system apparently struggled with Aussie accents. The current system
>> in the Ford is superb. It has a button on the steering wheel which
>> you can use to activate either the built in Ford system or Google,
>> but you don't even have to do that. You can set "code words" that it
>> will listen to, and as soon as it hears you mention them it will fire
>> up and ask you what you want.
>>
>>> If the car has Apple car play or Android auto you can just say "hey
>>> siri" or "hey google" to do things, some people like that sort of
>>> thing but some don't and I'm the latter, talking to a phone or a
>>> screen seems silly to me.
>>
>> I'd never been a big fan of it previously, but in the Ranger it's so
>> seamless that it feels like having an assistant sitting in the car
>> with you.
>>
>> It just takes everything to a new level of easy....
>>
> And you need it to be *easy* given your lack of competence in driving!
>

according to noddy the Ranger is the best thing in the world since
sliced bread..

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 by: Xeno - Sun, 10 Mar 2024 05:31 UTC

On 10/3/2024 4:24 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> Xeno wrote:
>> On 7/3/2024 11:12 am, Noddy wrote:
>>> On 6/03/2024 10:33 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>> On 6/3/2024 9:06 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you can touch a point on a screen without looking at it you're
>>>>> better at it than me, and 90 odd percent of the population. As for
>>>>> voice control, it must be a lot better than any that I've seen. I
>>>>> think that the Maz3 can initiate a phone call by voice, I must try
>>>>> it some time.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   Voice control systems are certainly a lot better than they used to
>>>> be, I think my wife uses that feature on her Golf but I prefer to
>>>> press a button or turn a knob.
>>>
>>> It's certainly come a hell of a long way. In the Navara it was
>>> available in foreign markets but disabled for Australia because the
>>> system apparently struggled with Aussie accents. The current system
>>> in the Ford is superb. It has a button on the steering wheel which
>>> you can use to activate either the built in Ford system or Google,
>>> but you don't even have to do that. You can set "code words" that it
>>> will listen to, and as soon as it hears you mention them it will fire
>>> up and ask you what you want.
>>>
>>>> If the car has Apple car play or Android auto you can just say "hey
>>>> siri" or "hey google" to do things, some people like that sort of
>>>> thing but some don't and I'm the latter, talking to a phone or a
>>>> screen seems silly to me.
>>>
>>> I'd never been a big fan of it previously, but in the Ranger it's so
>>> seamless that it feels like having an assistant sitting in the car
>>> with you.
>>>
>>> It just takes everything to a new level of easy....
>>>
>> And you need it to be *easy* given your lack of competence in driving!
>>
>
> according to noddy the Ranger is the best thing in the world since
> sliced bread..
>
And that because the car does the thinking for him, an essential since
he's not capable of thinking and driving at the same time, his crippling
injuries more than sufficient proof of that!

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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 by: alvey - Sun, 10 Mar 2024 21:02 UTC

Mighty Mouse wrote:

>>
>
> according to noddy the Ranger is the best thing in the world since
> sliced bread..

Yairsss.
And one wonders how Fraudster can make such sweeping statements on the
Boganmobile universe as he has claimed that he doesn't read magazines.
I'm guessing that it's the same source as so very many of his blurts.
His imagination.

alvey
“I'm just amused by people like you who hold such informed opinions
based on complete ignorance”. Fraudster, 14Dec22


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