A couple of petrol stations near me seem to have adopted the low-price,
high-volume business model, and people are queuing up there to buy
petrol at less than $1.60, even to the extent of blocking a lane on the
70km/h road.

Sheesh, guys, if you're that petrol price sensitive, why are you buying
huge gas-guzzling SUVs?

Sylvia.

On 26/01/2024 2:10 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
> A couple of petrol stations near me seem to have adopted the low-price,
> high-volume business model, and people are queuing up there to buy
> petrol at less than $1.60, even to the extent of blocking a lane on the
> 70km/h road.

Half your luck, most petrol around here is $2.11, I could drive to
Deception Bay and save $8.00 on a tank full, but it would cost $8.64 in
petrol and an hour of my time round trip so there is no point.

> Sheesh, guys, if you're that petrol price sensitive, why are you buying
> huge gas-guzzling SUVs?

Even with an economical car, if you're passing a servo with cheap
petrol, you'll likely go for it.

On 26/1/2024 4:11 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
> On 26/01/2024 2:10 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> A couple of petrol stations near me seem to have adopted the
>> low-price, high-volume business model, and people are queuing up there
>> to buy petrol at less than $1.60, even to the extent of blocking a
>> lane on the 70km/h road.
>
> Half your luck, most petrol around here is $2.11, I could drive to
> Deception Bay and save $8.00 on a tank full, but it would cost $8.64 in
> petrol and an hour of my time round trip so there is no point.

Hmmm, 91 Ron has been fairly steady here at $1.82 for many months now.
Even now, in the school holidays, it hasn't ramped up.
>
>> Sheesh, guys, if you're that petrol price sensitive, why are you
>> buying huge gas-guzzling SUVs?
>
> Even with an economical car, if you're passing a servo with cheap
> petrol, you'll likely go for it.
>
Depends on the servo. Some servos I'll bypass even if they are cheaper -
because they are known to sell crappy petrol. I'll also only use high
turnover fuel stops.

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 26/1/2024 3:10 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
> A couple of petrol stations near me seem to have adopted the low-price,
> high-volume business model, and people are queuing up there to buy
> petrol at less than $1.60, even to the extent of blocking a lane on the
> 70km/h road.

If there were long queues you wouldn't be seeing me there. I will drop
in to a cheap petrol servo, *if convenient* and I am already passing by,
but I won't go out of my way to hunt out cheap petrol. But then, since I
drive a small 4 cylinder economical runabout, there is simply no need.
>
> Sheesh, guys, if you're that petrol price sensitive, why are you buying
> huge gas-guzzling SUVs?

Let me take a stab at answering that one: the needs of their ego
(manhood substitutes) are greater than the depths of their wallets. The
number of huge 4x4 utes and SUVs being used *primarily* as shopping
trolleys and school taxis in urban Australia indicate that.

Lots of 4x4 utes up here but most are actually *used* for their intended
purposes. No doubt that's the norm in rural Australia.

>
> Sylvia.

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 26-Jan-24 5:49 pm, Xeno wrote:

> Lots of 4x4 utes up here but most are actually *used* for their intended
> purposes. No doubt that's the norm in rural Australia.

On that subject, I happened to see a current model Range Rover the other
day. Unlike the one from a few decades ago, the current model didn't
really suggest suitability for going off road where necessary.

I suppose I could be wrong about that.

Sylvia.

Xeno wrote:
> On 26/1/2024 4:11 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>> On 26/01/2024 2:10 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>> A couple of petrol stations near me seem to have adopted the
>>> low-price, high-volume business model, and people are queuing up
>>> there to buy petrol at less than $1.60, even to the extent of
>>> blocking a lane on the 70km/h road.
>>
>> Half your luck, most petrol around here is $2.11, I could drive to
>> Deception Bay and save $8.00 on a tank full, but it would cost $8.64
>> in petrol and an hour of my time round trip so there is no point.
>
> Hmmm, 91 Ron has been fairly steady here at $1.82 for many months now.
> Even now, in the school holidays, it hasn't ramped up.
>>
>>> Sheesh, guys, if you're that petrol price sensitive, why are you
>>> buying huge gas-guzzling SUVs?
>>
>> Even with an economical car, if you're passing a servo with cheap
>> petrol, you'll likely go for it.
>>
> Depends on the servo. Some servos I'll bypass even if they are cheaper
> - because they are known to sell crappy petrol. I'll also only use
> high turnover fuel stops.
>

I only use Ampol in the ZS

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Have a nice day!..

On 26/1/2024 7:04 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 26-Jan-24 5:49 pm, Xeno wrote:
>
>> Lots of 4x4 utes up here but most are actually *used* for their
>> intended purposes. No doubt that's the norm in rural Australia.
>
> On that subject, I happened to see a current model Range Rover the other
> day. Unlike the one from a few decades ago, the current model didn't
> really suggest suitability for going off road where necessary.

I would suggest that the new Range Rover's off-road capability is
somewhat compromised by the need for poseur creature comforts. If you
wanted real off-road capability, the Defender was the vehicle of choice.
>
> I suppose I could be wrong about that.

I'd prefer the Land Cruiser. If (not when) it broke down, at least you
would be able to get parts in short order. The Rangie? Not so much.
>
> Sylvia.
>

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 26/1/2024 7:16 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> Xeno wrote:
>> On 26/1/2024 4:11 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 26/01/2024 2:10 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>> A couple of petrol stations near me seem to have adopted the
>>>> low-price, high-volume business model, and people are queuing up
>>>> there to buy petrol at less than $1.60, even to the extent of
>>>> blocking a lane on the 70km/h road.
>>>
>>> Half your luck, most petrol around here is $2.11, I could drive to
>>> Deception Bay and save $8.00 on a tank full, but it would cost $8.64
>>> in petrol and an hour of my time round trip so there is no point.
>>
>> Hmmm, 91 Ron has been fairly steady here at $1.82 for many months now.
>> Even now, in the school holidays, it hasn't ramped up.
>>>
>>>> Sheesh, guys, if you're that petrol price sensitive, why are you
>>>> buying huge gas-guzzling SUVs?
>>>
>>> Even with an economical car, if you're passing a servo with cheap
>>> petrol, you'll likely go for it.
>>>
>> Depends on the servo. Some servos I'll bypass even if they are cheaper
>> - because they are known to sell crappy petrol. I'll also only use
>> high turnover fuel stops.
>>
>
> I only use Ampol in the ZS
>
So why don't you use *Caltex*? The servo I primarily use has recently
been rebranded as Ampol *from* Caltex. Ampol is, or was, Caltex, but
they had to change because of licencing changes by Chevron??. That said,
I am a bit agnostic on brands and on the last two occasions I have
filled up at a Liberty pump more proximally located.

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

Xeno wrote:
> On 26/1/2024 7:16 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>> Xeno wrote:
>>> On 26/1/2024 4:11 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 26/01/2024 2:10 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>>> A couple of petrol stations near me seem to have adopted the
>>>>> low-price, high-volume business model, and people are queuing up
>>>>> there to buy petrol at less than $1.60, even to the extent of
>>>>> blocking a lane on the 70km/h road.
>>>>
>>>> Half your luck, most petrol around here is $2.11, I could drive to
>>>> Deception Bay and save $8.00 on a tank full, but it would cost
>>>> $8.64 in petrol and an hour of my time round trip so there is no
>>>> point.
>>>
>>> Hmmm, 91 Ron has been fairly steady here at $1.82 for many months
>>> now. Even now, in the school holidays, it hasn't ramped up.
>>>>
>>>>> Sheesh, guys, if you're that petrol price sensitive, why are you
>>>>> buying huge gas-guzzling SUVs?
>>>>
>>>> Even with an economical car, if you're passing a servo with cheap
>>>> petrol, you'll likely go for it.
>>>>
>>> Depends on the servo. Some servos I'll bypass even if they are
>>> cheaper - because they are known to sell crappy petrol. I'll also
>>> only use high turnover fuel stops.
>>>
>>
>> I only use Ampol in the ZS
>>
> So why don't you use *Caltex*?

Ampol is Caltex. there aren't any Caltex servos here anymore

> The servo I primarily use has recently been rebranded as Ampol *from*
> Caltex. Ampol is, or was, Caltex, but they had to change because of
> licencing changes by Chevron??. That said, I am a bit agnostic on
> brands and on the last two occasions I have filled up at a Liberty
> pump more proximally located.
>

there are other servos closer than the Ampol servo I use

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Have a nice day!..

On 26/01/2024 6:04 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 26-Jan-24 5:49 pm, Xeno wrote:
>
>> Lots of 4x4 utes up here but most are actually *used* for their
>> intended purposes. No doubt that's the norm in rural Australia.
>
> On that subject, I happened to see a current model Range Rover the other
> day. Unlike the one from a few decades ago, the current model didn't
> really suggest suitability for going off road where necessary.
>
> I suppose I could be wrong about that.

When I lived in Sydney, I'd often see a Range Rover that had 2 stickers
on the rear window. One was the crest of an expensive private boys
school, the other said "Poverty is owning a horse". Had I been living in
poverty, I'd have trashed the thing.

On 26/1/2024 8:42 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
> On 26/01/2024 6:04 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 26-Jan-24 5:49 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>
>>> Lots of 4x4 utes up here but most are actually *used* for their
>>> intended purposes. No doubt that's the norm in rural Australia.
>>
>> On that subject, I happened to see a current model Range Rover the
>> other day. Unlike the one from a few decades ago, the current model
>> didn't really suggest suitability for going off road where necessary.
>>
>> I suppose I could be wrong about that.
>
> When I lived in Sydney, I'd often see a Range Rover that had 2 stickers
> on the rear window. One was the crest of an expensive private boys
> school, the other said "Poverty is owning a horse". Had I been living in
> poverty, I'd have trashed the thing.
>
True poverty is owning a racehorse - unless it wins.

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 26/01/2024 3:10 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
> A couple of petrol stations near me seem to have adopted the low-price,
> high-volume business model, and people are queuing up there to buy
> petrol at less than $1.60, even to the extent of blocking a lane on the
> 70km/h road.
>
> Sheesh, guys, if you're that petrol price sensitive, why are you buying
> huge gas-guzzling SUVs?

The choice of vehicle has got little to do with most people being
willing to grab a bargain when they see it.

--
--
--
Regards,
Noddy.

On 26/01/2024 7:04 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 26-Jan-24 5:49 pm, Xeno wrote:
>
>> Lots of 4x4 utes up here but most are actually *used* for their
>> intended purposes. No doubt that's the norm in rural Australia.
>
> On that subject, I happened to see a current model Range Rover the other
> day. Unlike the one from a few decades ago, the current model didn't
> really suggest suitability for going off road where necessary.

You could say the exact same thing about every 4x4 on the market today.

> I suppose I could be wrong about that.

I'd bet money on that being the case.

--
--
--
Regards,
Noddy.

On 26/01/2024 8:42 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

> When I lived in Sydney, I'd often see a Range Rover that had 2 stickers
> on the rear window. One was the crest of an expensive private boys
> school, the other said "Poverty is owning a horse". Had I been living in
> poverty, I'd have trashed the thing.

Really? That says a hell of a lot about you, and none of it's good.

--
--
--
Regards,
Noddy.

On 26/1/2024 3:10 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
> A couple of petrol stations near me seem to have adopted the low-price,
> high-volume business model, and people are queuing up there to buy
> petrol at less than $1.60, even to the extent of blocking a lane on the
> 70km/h road.
>
> Sheesh, guys, if you're that petrol price sensitive, why are you buying
> huge gas-guzzling SUVs?
>

Prices have dropped in Melb too, I paid 179cpl for 95 a couple of days ago.
Its more likely that people who drive cheap cars are the ones looking
for the cheapest fuel, they might be low income earners or just cheap as
in MG buyers.
The owners of "huge gas-guzzling SUV's" probably don't care about fuel
costs not that there is all that many of those anyway.
Its incorrect to look at a large vehicle and assume that its a
"gas-guzzling", many would be diesels some of which can be relatively
economical.

--
Daryl

On 26/1/2024 8:42 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
> On 26/01/2024 6:04 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 26-Jan-24 5:49 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>
>>> Lots of 4x4 utes up here but most are actually *used* for their
>>> intended purposes. No doubt that's the norm in rural Australia.
>>
>> On that subject, I happened to see a current model Range Rover the
>> other day. Unlike the one from a few decades ago, the current model
>> didn't really suggest suitability for going off road where necessary.
>>
>> I suppose I could be wrong about that.
>
> When I lived in Sydney, I'd often see a Range Rover that had 2 stickers
> on the rear window. One was the crest of an expensive private boys
> school, the other said "Poverty is owning a horse". Had I been living in
> poverty, I'd have trashed the thing.
>

LOL, I think that the sticker meant that it costs a lot of money to own
a horse and they will keep you poor:-)

--
Daryl

On 26/1/2024 9:59 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 26/01/2024 7:04 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 26-Jan-24 5:49 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>
>>> Lots of 4x4 utes up here but most are actually *used* for their
>>> intended purposes. No doubt that's the norm in rural Australia.
>>
>> On that subject, I happened to see a current model Range Rover the
>> other day. Unlike the one from a few decades ago, the current model
>> didn't really suggest suitability for going off road where necessary.
>
> You could say the exact same thing about every 4x4 on the market today.

True, they usually come with road tyres from the factory, changing to
more aggressive off road tyres makes a huge difference to off road
capability.

>
>> I suppose I could be wrong about that.
>
> I'd bet money on that being the case.
>

Me too, I've seen lots of off road tests on late model 4WD's including
luxurious looking Range Rovers and they are very capable even on stock
tyres, the electronic wizardry they come with these days makes up for
the lack of grippy tyres.

--
Daryl

Keithr0 wrote:
> On 26/01/2024 6:04 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 26-Jan-24 5:49 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>
>>> Lots of 4x4 utes up here but most are actually *used* for their
>>> intended purposes. No doubt that's the norm in rural Australia.
>>
>> On that subject, I happened to see a current model Range Rover the
>> other day. Unlike the one from a few decades ago, the current model
>> didn't really suggest suitability for going off road where necessary.
>>
>> I suppose I could be wrong about that.
>
> When I lived in Sydney, I'd often see a Range Rover that had 2
> stickers on the rear window. One was the crest of an expensive private
> boys school, the other said "Poverty is owning a horse". Had I been
> living in poverty, I'd have trashed the thing.
>

nasty

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Have a nice day!..

Mighty Mouse wrote:
>
> Ampol is Caltex. there aren't any Caltex servos here anymore
>
>> The servo I primarily use has recently been rebranded as Ampol *from*
>> Caltex. Ampol is, or was, Caltex, but they had to change because of
>> licencing changes by Chevron??. That said, I am a bit agnostic on
>> brands and on the last two occasions I have filled up at a Liberty
>> pump more proximally located.
>>
>
>

There is Caltex in WA. They took over one of the independents, after old
Caltex became Ampol. Confused a lot of people.

Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 26-Jan-24 5:49 pm, Xeno wrote:
>
>> Lots of 4x4 utes up here but most are actually *used* for their
>> intended purposes. No doubt that's the norm in rural Australia.
>
> On that subject, I happened to see a current model Range Rover the other
> day. Unlike the one from a few decades ago, the current model didn't
> really suggest suitability for going off road where necessary.
>
> I suppose I could be wrong about that.

I think you're confused. Iirc, the 'real' off-roader was the Landrover,
the *Range Rover* was the vehicle responsible for the derogatory term
"Chelsea Tractor". Again, iirc, it didn't even have a low range.

alvey

Noddy wrote:
> On 26/01/2024 3:10 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> A couple of petrol stations near me seem to have adopted the
>> low-price, high-volume business model, and people are queuing up there
>> to buy petrol at less than $1.60, even to the extent of blocking a
>> lane on the 70km/h road.
>>
>> Sheesh, guys, if you're that petrol price sensitive, why are you
>> buying huge gas-guzzling SUVs?
>
> The choice of vehicle has got little to do with most people being
> willing to grab a bargain when they see it.

Dear Mr Blithering-Idiot,

Weasel and red herring all you like, but Ms Else's comment is a telling
contradiction.

Speaking of 'Contradiction', it has a werry cwose fwend in Bwumhole
Wictoria called Double-Standard... It'd be you bashing out shedloads of
posts hissing how Toyota buyers are mindless victims of Toyotas' PR
image, but never a peep from you about all the suburban slobs who drool
over the tv ads of Hulksters tearing through the bush at Warp Factor 3
and then rush out to borrow money and buy one. Just how dumb are these
slobs hey Fraudster? Fancy thinking that driving one of these hideous,
dangerous and incredibly impractical shitheaps will magically turn them
into a Real Man. Soooo gullible hey.

alvey

Daryl wrote:
> On 26/1/2024 3:10 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> A couple of petrol stations near me seem to have adopted the
>> low-price, high-volume business model, and people are queuing up there
>> to buy petrol at less than $1.60, even to the extent of blocking a
>> lane on the 70km/h road.
>>
>> Sheesh, guys, if you're that petrol price sensitive, why are you
>> buying huge gas-guzzling SUVs?
>>
>
> Prices have dropped in Melb too, I paid 179cpl for 95 a couple of days ago.
> Its more likely that people who drive cheap cars are the ones looking
> for the cheapest fuel, they might be low income earners or just cheap as
> in MG buyers.
> The owners of "huge gas-guzzling SUV's" probably don't care about fuel
> costs not that there is all that many of those anyway.
> Its incorrect to look at a large vehicle and assume that its a
> "gas-guzzling", many would be diesels some of which can be relatively
> economical.

"Relative" to what Deryl? A tank?

On 26/01/2024 4:04 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 26-Jan-24 5:49 pm, Xeno wrote:
>
>> Lots of 4x4 utes up here but most are actually *used* for their
>> intended purposes. No doubt that's the norm in rural Australia.
>
> On that subject, I happened to see a current model Range Rover the other
> day. Unlike the one from a few decades ago, the current model didn't
> really suggest suitability for going off road where necessary.
>
> I suppose I could be wrong about that.
>
> Sylvia.
>

They haven't been suitable for going off-road since forever.

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Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

Sylvia Else wrote:
> A couple of petrol stations near me seem to have adopted the
> low-price, high-volume business model, and people are queuing up there
> to buy petrol at less than $1.60, even to the extent of blocking a
> lane on the 70km/h road.
>
> Sheesh, guys, if you're that petrol price sensitive, why are you
> buying huge gas-guzzling SUVs?

$2.21 a litre here today

>
> Sylvia.

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On 27/01/2024 11:40 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> Sylvia Else wrote:
>> A couple of petrol stations near me seem to have adopted the
>> low-price, high-volume business model, and people are queuing up there
>> to buy petrol at less than $1.60, even to the extent of blocking a
>> lane on the 70km/h road.
>>
>> Sheesh, guys, if you're that petrol price sensitive, why are you
>> buying huge gas-guzzling SUVs?
>
> $2.21 a litre here today

$1.75 at plenty of places. Why you've picked out the most expensive is
strange...
>