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 by: Mighty Mouse - Fri, 29 Dec 2023 02:52 UTC

https://auslink.info/video/hillary.mp4

I'm sure she's right..

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 by: Trevor Wilson - Fri, 29 Dec 2023 08:48 UTC

On 29/12/2023 1:52 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
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> https://auslink.info/video/hillary.mp4
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> I'm sure she's right..
>

**A very bad quality fake video.

But you knew that. Or you SHOULD have known that.

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 by: Keithr0 - Fri, 29 Dec 2023 09:27 UTC

On 29/12/2023 6:48 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 29/12/2023 1:52 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>
>> https://auslink.info/video/hillary.mp4
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>> I'm sure she's right..
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>
> **A very bad quality fake video.
>
> But you knew that. Or you SHOULD have known that.
>
It's a video that felix has posted therefore it's a fake.

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 by: Mighty Mouse - Fri, 29 Dec 2023 11:01 UTC

Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 29/12/2023 1:52 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
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>> https://auslink.info/video/hillary.mp4
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>> I'm sure she's right..
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>
> **A very bad quality fake video.
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> But you knew that. Or you SHOULD have known that.
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of course I knew that. just making fun of the climate change hoax

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 by: Keithr0 - Fri, 29 Dec 2023 11:23 UTC

On 29/12/2023 9:01 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 29/12/2023 1:52 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
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>>> https://auslink.info/video/hillary.mp4
>>>
>>> I'm sure she's right..
>>>
>>
>> **A very bad quality fake video.
>>
>> But you knew that. Or you SHOULD have known that.
>>
>
> of course I knew that.

Yearh right.

> just making fun of the climate change hoax

Unfortunately it's you that gets made fun of.

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 by: Clocky - Fri, 29 Dec 2023 14:23 UTC

On 29/12/2023 7:01 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 29/12/2023 1:52 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
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>>> https://auslink.info/video/hillary.mp4
>>>
>>> I'm sure she's right..
>>>
>>
>> **A very bad quality fake video.
>>
>> But you knew that. Or you SHOULD have known that.
>>
>
> of course I knew that. just making fun of the climate change hoax
>

Any other Murdoch/Sky/[insert far right stupidity] conspiracy theories
you want to humour us with?

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 by: Mighty Mouse - Fri, 29 Dec 2023 17:29 UTC

Keithr0 wrote:
> On 29/12/2023 9:01 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 29/12/2023 1:52 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>
>>>> https://auslink.info/video/hillary.mp4
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure she's right..
>>>>
>>>
>>> **A very bad quality fake video.
>>>
>>> But you knew that. Or you SHOULD have known that.
>>>
>>
>> of course I knew that.
>
> Yearh right.

I'm not stupid like you

>
>> just making fun of the climate change hoax
>
> Unfortunately it's you that gets made fun of.
>

only by fuckwits like you

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 by: Mighty Mouse - Fri, 29 Dec 2023 17:32 UTC

Clocky wrote:
> On 29/12/2023 7:01 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 29/12/2023 1:52 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>
>>>> https://auslink.info/video/hillary.mp4
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure she's right..
>>>>
>>>
>>> **A very bad quality fake video.
>>>
>>> But you knew that. Or you SHOULD have known that.
>>>
>>
>> of course I knew that. just making fun of the climate change hoax
>>
>
> Any other Murdoch/Sky/[insert far right stupidity] conspiracy theories
> you want to humour us with?
>
>
>

no. any lefty lunacy bullshit you want to amuse 'us' with?

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 by: Mighty Mouse - Fri, 29 Dec 2023 17:59 UTC

Clocky wrote:
> On 29/12/2023 7:01 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 29/12/2023 1:52 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>
>>>> https://auslink.info/video/hillary.mp4
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure she's right..
>>>>
>>>
>>> **A very bad quality fake video.
>>>
>>> But you knew that. Or you SHOULD have known that.
>>>
>>
>> of course I knew that. just making fun of the climate change hoax
>>
>
> Any other Murdoch/Sky/[insert far right stupidity] conspiracy theories
> you want to humour us with?
>
>
>

we are being conned. we have to suffer higher electricity prices because
'evil' coal fired power stations are 'destroying the planet', while at
the same time exporting our coal to China, who build two new coal
powered plants a week. we have the cheapest coal in the world, or at
least among the cheapest. we could have cheap electricity except for the
greeny agenda. we would only need two or three plants which would not
make a poofteeth difference to global pollution.

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 by: Trevor Wilson - Fri, 29 Dec 2023 18:39 UTC

On 29/12/2023 10:01 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 29/12/2023 1:52 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>
>>> https://auslink.info/video/hillary.mp4
>>>
>>> I'm sure she's right..
>>>
>>
>> **A very bad quality fake video.
>>
>> But you knew that. Or you SHOULD have known that.
>>
>
> of course I knew that. just making fun of the climate change hoax
>

**"Climate change hoax"?

Do tell.

In your response, address the following:

* Cite your climate science credentials, that we may accept your
hypothesis as valid.
* Cite your climate change hypothesis that explains the reasons behind
the present warming trend.
* Cite your climate change hypothesis that proves Arrhenius' theory on
human induced climate change. A theory, BTW, that was presented back in
1899 and has NEVER been successfully challenged. NOT ONCE.

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 by: Peter Jason - Fri, 29 Dec 2023 22:51 UTC

On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 13:52:20 +1100, Mighty Mouse
<"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:

>
>https://auslink.info/video/hillary.mp4
>
>I'm sure she's right..

Or maybe she's barking frothing mad?

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 by: Clocky - Fri, 29 Dec 2023 23:04 UTC

On 30/12/2023 1:32 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> Clocky wrote:
>> On 29/12/2023 7:01 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>> On 29/12/2023 1:52 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://auslink.info/video/hillary.mp4
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure she's right..
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> **A very bad quality fake video.
>>>>
>>>> But you knew that. Or you SHOULD have known that.
>>>>
>>>
>>> of course I knew that. just making fun of the climate change hoax
>>>
>>
>> Any other Murdoch/Sky/[insert far right stupidity] conspiracy theories
>> you want to humour us with?
>>
>>
>>
>
> no. any lefty lunacy bullshit you want to amuse 'us' with?
>

Scientific facts don't care about political leanings.

They're just facts.

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Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

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 by: Clocky - Fri, 29 Dec 2023 23:20 UTC

On 30/12/2023 2:39 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 29/12/2023 10:01 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 29/12/2023 1:52 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>
>>>> https://auslink.info/video/hillary.mp4
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure she's right..
>>>>
>>>
>>> **A very bad quality fake video.
>>>
>>> But you knew that. Or you SHOULD have known that.
>>>
>>
>> of course I knew that. just making fun of the climate change hoax
>>
>
> **"Climate change hoax"?
>
> Do tell.
>
> In your response, address the following:
>
> * Cite your climate science credentials, that we may accept your
> hypothesis as valid.
> * Cite your climate change hypothesis that explains the reasons behind
> the present warming trend.
> * Cite your climate change hypothesis that proves Arrhenius' theory on
> human induced climate change. A theory, BTW, that was presented back in
> 1899 and has NEVER been successfully challenged. NOT ONCE.
>

None of that matters, for the far right loonies it's like a religion -
they have faith that it's not real - and faith requires no evidence and
any evidence to the contrary is a conspiracy of some sort. The lefty
loonies think we can stop using oil tomorrow and we can all live on
avocados while flying the rainbow flag, dancing around in Birkenstocks
and defacing artworks while living on the dole. They're even worse.

Even most center right people accept climate change is real and there is
certainly a real debate to be had about how we go about reducing
emissions and addressing global warming - but IMO the ship has sailed
and while also doing what we can to reduce our impact we need to
seriously look at addressing what is to come in terms of changes to the
planet. It's not going away so we need to deal with it.

Mind you the next mass extinction event is likely to be caused at the
press of a button rather than climate change the way things are going in
the world.

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proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

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 by: Keithr0 - Fri, 29 Dec 2023 23:23 UTC

On 30/12/2023 3:29 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> Keithr0 wrote:
>> On 29/12/2023 9:01 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>> On 29/12/2023 1:52 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://auslink.info/video/hillary.mp4
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure she's right..
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> **A very bad quality fake video.
>>>>
>>>> But you knew that. Or you SHOULD have known that.
>>>>
>>>
>>> of course I knew that.
>>
>> Yearh right.
>
> I'm not stupid like you
>
>>
>>> just making fun of the climate change hoax
>>
>> Unfortunately it's you that gets made fun of.
>>
>
> only by fuckwits like you
>
Truly spoken like an 8 year old.

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 by: Ozix - Sat, 30 Dec 2023 01:09 UTC

Mighty Mouse wrote:
>> we are being conned. we have to suffer higher electricity prices because
> 'evil' coal fired power stations are 'destroying the planet', while at
> the same time exporting our coal to China, who build two new coal
> powered plants a week. we have the cheapest coal in the world, or at
> least among the cheapest. we could have cheap electricity except for the
> greeny agenda. we would only need two or three plants which would not
> make a poofteeth difference to global pollution.
>

Coal is going, regardless of politics. In WA, the mine supplying the
power station has gone bankrupt, and in spring and autumn, it is not
needed anyway, due to huge amount of solar power. In the eastern states,
the machines are old and breaking down. Nobody is going piss away money
to keep them going another 50 years.

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 by: Noddy - Sat, 30 Dec 2023 01:29 UTC

On 30/12/2023 10:23 am, Keithr0 wrote:
> On 30/12/2023 3:29 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:

>> only by fuckwits like you
>>
> Truly spoken like an 8 year old.

ROTFL :)

The irony is staggering :)
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 by: Clocky - Sat, 30 Dec 2023 03:36 UTC

On 30/12/2023 9:29 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 30/12/2023 10:23 am, Keithr0 wrote:
>> On 30/12/2023 3:29 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>
>>> only by fuckwits like you
>>>
>> Truly spoken like an 8 year old.
>
> ROTFL :)
>
> The irony is staggering :)

In that you responded sure.

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Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

Re: Hillary Clinton speaks on Climate Change

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 by: Mighty Mouse - Sat, 30 Dec 2023 04:17 UTC

Peter Jason wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 13:52:20 +1100, Mighty Mouse
> <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:
>
>> https://auslink.info/video/hillary.mp4
>>
>> I'm sure she's right..
> Or maybe she's barking frothing mad?

I was being sarcastic. it's a fake video of course. AI can reproduce voices.

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 by: Mighty Mouse - Sat, 30 Dec 2023 04:18 UTC

Keithr0 wrote:
> On 30/12/2023 3:29 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>> Keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 29/12/2023 9:01 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>> On 29/12/2023 1:52 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://auslink.info/video/hillary.mp4
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm sure she's right..
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> **A very bad quality fake video.
>>>>>
>>>>> But you knew that. Or you SHOULD have known that.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> of course I knew that.
>>>
>>> Yearh right.
>>
>> I'm not stupid like you
>>
>>>
>>>> just making fun of the climate change hoax
>>>
>>> Unfortunately it's you that gets made fun of.
>>>
>>
>> only by fuckwits like you
>>
> Truly spoken like an 8 year old.

piss off you silly old fart

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Subject: Re: Hillary Clinton speaks on Climate Change
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 by: Trevor Wilson - Sat, 30 Dec 2023 04:43 UTC

On 30/12/2023 3:17 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> Peter Jason wrote:
>> On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 13:52:20 +1100, Mighty Mouse
>> <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:
>>
>>> https://auslink.info/video/hillary.mp4
>>>
>>> I'm sure she's right..
>> Or maybe she's barking frothing mad?
>
> I was being sarcastic. it's a fake video of course. AI can reproduce
> voices.
>

**Were you joking when you claimed:

"just making fun of the climate change hoax"

To which, I asked:

Do tell.

In your response, address the following:

* Cite your climate science credentials, that we may accept your
hypothesis as valid.
* Cite your climate change hypothesis that explains the reasons behind
the present warming trend.
* Cite your climate change hypothesis that proves Arrhenius' theory on
human induced climate change is wrong. A theory, BTW, that was presented
back in 1899 and has NEVER been successfully challenged. NOT ONCE.

So, will you continue to avoid responding? Or will you admit that you
are either an idiot, or joking?

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 by: Mighty Mouse - Sat, 30 Dec 2023 05:45 UTC

Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 30/12/2023 3:17 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>> Peter Jason wrote:
>>> On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 13:52:20 +1100, Mighty Mouse
>>> <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> https://auslink.info/video/hillary.mp4
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure she's right..
>>> Or maybe she's barking frothing mad?
>>
>> I was being sarcastic. it's a fake video of course. AI can reproduce
>> voices.
>>
>
> **Were you joking when you claimed:
>
> "just making fun of the climate change hoax"
>
> To which, I asked:
>
> Do tell.
>
> In your response, address the following:
>
> * Cite your climate science credentials, that we may accept your
> hypothesis as valid.
> * Cite your climate change hypothesis that explains the reasons behind
> the present warming trend.
> * Cite your climate change hypothesis that proves Arrhenius' theory on
> human induced climate change is wrong. A theory, BTW, that was
> presented back in 1899 and has NEVER been successfully challenged. NOT
> ONCE.
>
> So, will you continue to avoid responding? Or will you admit that you
> are either an idiot, or joking?
>

neither. it's a hoax in the sense that we are being lied to, to make us
do things here in Australia that wont make a scrap of difference to
global warming. examples.. reduce farming because cow farts supposedly
cause global warming. ride bikes, don't drive cars, because car exhausts
cause global warming. install stupid visually polluting wind turbines,
the manufacture, upkeep, and replacement of which is environmentally
polluting, and pay higher electricity prices for the privilege. use
electric cars when their production is also environmentally polluting,
etc., etc., but having said that, I have no great interest in the
debate. I'm too old to care anymore. I just object to stupid decisions
based on an agenda, that have no benefit to us and are detrimental to
our lifestyle or finances.

I saw an interesting video showing how many supposedly disastrous
climate predictions have not come true, but I haven't been able to find
it again. so I question how much about the current scenario is fact or
fiction. the latest nonsense I just saw is that humans breathing is
causing climate change. guess we have to kill a billion or so ppl to fix
that!

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 by: Xeno - Sat, 30 Dec 2023 06:47 UTC

On 30/12/2023 4:45 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 30/12/2023 3:17 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>> Peter Jason wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 13:52:20 +1100, Mighty Mouse
>>>> <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> https://auslink.info/video/hillary.mp4
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure she's right..
>>>> Or maybe she's barking frothing mad?
>>>
>>> I was being sarcastic. it's a fake video of course. AI can reproduce
>>> voices.
>>>
>>
>> **Were you joking when you claimed:
>>
>> "just making fun of the climate change hoax"
>>
>> To which, I asked:
>>
>> Do tell.
>>
>> In your response, address the following:
>>
>> * Cite your climate science credentials, that we may accept your
>> hypothesis as valid.
>> * Cite your climate change hypothesis that explains the reasons behind
>> the present warming trend.
>> * Cite your climate change hypothesis that proves Arrhenius' theory on
>> human induced climate change is wrong. A theory, BTW, that was
>> presented back in 1899 and has NEVER been successfully challenged. NOT
>> ONCE.
>>
>> So, will you continue to avoid responding? Or will you admit that you
>> are either an idiot, or joking?
>>
>
> neither. it's a hoax in the sense that we are being lied to, to make us
> do things here in Australia that wont make a scrap of difference to
> global warming. examples.. reduce farming because cow farts supposedly
> cause global warming. ride bikes, don't drive cars, because car exhausts
> cause global warming. install stupid visually polluting wind turbines,
> the manufacture, upkeep, and replacement of which is environmentally
> polluting, and pay higher electricity prices for the privilege. use
> electric cars when their production is also environmentally polluting,
> etc., etc., but having said that, I have no great interest in the
> debate. I'm too old to care anymore. I just object to stupid decisions
> based on an agenda, that have no benefit to us and are detrimental to
> our lifestyle or finances.
>
> I saw an interesting video showing how many supposedly disastrous
> climate predictions have not come true, but I haven't been able to find
> it again. so I question how much about the current scenario is fact or
> fiction. the latest nonsense I just saw is that humans breathing is
> causing climate change. guess we have to kill a billion or so ppl to fix
> that!
>
Odd. Climate predictions made in the early 80s have certainly come true.
True though, getting rid of a billion or so humans will have a
noticeable effect and, between covid and recent wars, we might soon
approach that number. Unfortunately those events hinder the world's
efforts in growing food. Might be a problem down the track.

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 by: Trevor Wilson - Sat, 30 Dec 2023 09:02 UTC

On 30/12/2023 4:45 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 30/12/2023 3:17 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>> Peter Jason wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 13:52:20 +1100, Mighty Mouse
>>>> <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> https://auslink.info/video/hillary.mp4
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure she's right..
>>>> Or maybe she's barking frothing mad?
>>>
>>> I was being sarcastic. it's a fake video of course. AI can reproduce
>>> voices.
>>>
>>
>> **Were you joking when you claimed:
>>
>> "just making fun of the climate change hoax"
>>
>> To which, I asked:
>>
>> Do tell.
>>
>> In your response, address the following:
>>
>> * Cite your climate science credentials, that we may accept your
>> hypothesis as valid.
>> * Cite your climate change hypothesis that explains the reasons behind
>> the present warming trend.
>> * Cite your climate change hypothesis that proves Arrhenius' theory on
>> human induced climate change is wrong. A theory, BTW, that was
>> presented back in 1899 and has NEVER been successfully challenged. NOT
>> ONCE.
>>
>> So, will you continue to avoid responding? Or will you admit that you
>> are either an idiot, or joking?
>>
>
> neither. it's a hoax in the sense that we are being lied to,

**Who is lying to us?
What are they lying about?

to make us
> do things here in Australia that wont make a scrap of difference to
> global warming. examples.. reduce farming because cow farts supposedly
> cause global warming.

**The vast majority of methane from ruminants is emitted from their
mouths. So, it's not cow farts that are the problem. Here's the thing:
Methane is around TWENTY TIMES more potent as a GHG (GreenHouse Gas)
than CO2. Reducing the amount of methane from ruminants would be very
significant.

ride bikes, don't drive cars, because car exhausts
> cause global warming.

**Burning ANY fossil fuel is causing the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere
to rise and is thus causing global warming to accelerate.

install stupid visually polluting wind turbines,

**"Visually polluting wind turbines"?

Have you SEEN the once beautiful Hunter Valley recently?

https://www.gettyimages.com.au/detail/photo/an-open-cast-or-drift-coal-mine-in-the-hunter-royalty-free-image/578842426?adppopup=true

https://www.gettyimages.com.au/detail/photo/coal-mining-royalty-free-image/1279738823?adppopup=true

You need to get out more.

> the manufacture, upkeep, and replacement of which is environmentally
> polluting,

**EVERYTHING humans do is polluting. The trick is to REDUCE the amount
of pollution (notably CO2 and other GHGs) whilst doing things.

and pay higher electricity prices for the privilege.

**Coal is already a more expensive method of generating electricity than
renewables. You're paying more, because of privatisation. Mostly of
poles and wires. Blame the arseholes who sold off public assets to
private corporations.

use
> electric cars when their production is also environmentally polluting,

**Production of ICE cars is polluting. AND whilst their operating those
ICE cars emit vast amounts of CO2 and other noxious chemicals.

> etc., etc., but having said that, I have no great interest in the
> debate.

**[Translation] YOU don't understand squat about the issue.

I'm too old to care anymore. I just object to stupid decisions
> based on an agenda, that have no benefit to us and are detrimental to
> our lifestyle or finances.

**Your lifestyle is already being affected by global warming and it's
getting worse.

>
> I saw an interesting video showing how many supposedly disastrous
> climate predictions have not come true,

**No, you did not. Arrhenius' predictions have been remarkably accurate.
Then there's this:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-climate-change-almost-40-years-ago/

The facts are simple enough: CLIMATE SCIENTISTS have been warning us
about human induced global warming for more than 120 years.

but I haven't been able to find
> it again.

**Duh. What a surprise.

so I question how much about the current scenario is fact or
> fiction.

**You may question whatever you wish, but as long as you fail miserably
to study the science, you will remain ever ignorant.

the latest nonsense I just saw is that humans breathing is
> causing climate change.

**Well, it's pretty bloody obvious that humans are causing climate
change. We are the ones burning fossil fuels.

guess we have to kill a billion or so ppl to fix
> that!

**I hate to burst your bubble, but reliable estimates of the number of
humans that this planet can support in a lifestyle similar to the
average Aussie, run to around 500 million. That's it. Anymore and we
begin to eat into irreplaceable resources.

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 by: Mighty Mouse - Sat, 30 Dec 2023 10:17 UTC

Mighty Mouse wrote:
> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 30/12/2023 3:17 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>> Peter Jason wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 13:52:20 +1100, Mighty Mouse
>>>> <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> https://auslink.info/video/hillary.mp4
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure she's right..
>>>> Or maybe she's barking frothing mad?
>>>
>>> I was being sarcastic. it's a fake video of course. AI can reproduce
>>> voices.
>>>
>>
>> **Were you joking when you claimed:
>>
>> "just making fun of the climate change hoax"
>>
>> To which, I asked:
>>
>> Do tell.
>>
>> In your response, address the following:
>>
>> * Cite your climate science credentials, that we may accept your
>> hypothesis as valid.
>> * Cite your climate change hypothesis that explains the reasons
>> behind the present warming trend.
>> * Cite your climate change hypothesis that proves Arrhenius' theory
>> on human induced climate change is wrong. A theory, BTW, that was
>> presented back in 1899 and has NEVER been successfully challenged.
>> NOT ONCE.
>>
>> So, will you continue to avoid responding? Or will you admit that you
>> are either an idiot, or joking?
>>
>
> neither. it's a hoax in the sense that we are being lied to, to make
> us do things here in Australia that wont make a scrap of difference to
> global warming. examples.. reduce farming because cow farts supposedly
> cause global warming. ride bikes, don't drive cars, because car
> exhausts cause global warming. install stupid visually polluting wind
> turbines, the manufacture, upkeep, and replacement of which is
> environmentally polluting, and pay higher electricity prices for the
> privilege. use electric cars when their production is also
> environmentally polluting, etc., etc., but having said that, I have no
> great interest in the debate. I'm too old to care anymore. I just
> object to stupid decisions based on an agenda, that have no benefit to
> us and are detrimental to our lifestyle or finances.
>
> I saw an interesting video showing how many supposedly disastrous
> climate predictions have not come true, but I haven't been able to
> find it again. so I question how much about the current scenario is
> fact or fiction. the latest nonsense I just saw is that humans
> breathing is causing climate change. guess we have to kill a billion
> or so ppl to fix that!
>

this is the sort of bullshit I'm talking about! now they want us to stop
eating meat!..

https://auslink.info/video/food.mp4

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 by: Mighty Mouse - Sat, 30 Dec 2023 10:41 UTC

Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 30/12/2023 4:45 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 30/12/2023 3:17 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>> Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 13:52:20 +1100, Mighty Mouse
>>>>> <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> https://auslink.info/video/hillary.mp4
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm sure she's right..
>>>>> Or maybe she's barking frothing mad?
>>>>
>>>> I was being sarcastic. it's a fake video of course. AI can
>>>> reproduce voices.
>>>>
>>>
>>> **Were you joking when you claimed:
>>>
>>> "just making fun of the climate change hoax"
>>>
>>> To which, I asked:
>>>
>>> Do tell.
>>>
>>> In your response, address the following:
>>>
>>> * Cite your climate science credentials, that we may accept your
>>> hypothesis as valid.
>>> * Cite your climate change hypothesis that explains the reasons
>>> behind the present warming trend.
>>> * Cite your climate change hypothesis that proves Arrhenius' theory
>>> on human induced climate change is wrong. A theory, BTW, that was
>>> presented back in 1899 and has NEVER been successfully challenged.
>>> NOT ONCE.
>>>
>>> So, will you continue to avoid responding? Or will you admit that
>>> you are either an idiot, or joking?
>>>
>>
>> neither. it's a hoax in the sense that we are being lied to,
>
> **Who is lying to us?
> What are they lying about?
>
>

the necessity to do the sort of things I've mentioned

>
>
>>  to make us do things here in Australia that wont make a scrap of
>> difference to global warming. examples.. reduce farming because cow
>> farts supposedly cause global warming.
>
> **The vast majority of methane from ruminants is emitted from their
> mouths. So, it's not cow farts that are the problem. Here's the thing:
> Methane is around TWENTY TIMES more potent as a GHG (GreenHouse Gas)
> than CO2. Reducing the amount of methane from ruminants would be very
> significant.
>
>
>>  ride bikes, don't drive cars, because car exhausts cause global
>> warming.
>
> **Burning ANY fossil fuel is causing the amount of CO2 in the
> atmosphere to rise and is thus causing global warming to accelerate.
>
>  install stupid visually polluting wind turbines,
>
> **"Visually polluting wind turbines"?

yes.
https://www.greenorbits.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Do-wind-turbines-cause-visual-pollution.jpg

>
> Have you SEEN the once beautiful Hunter Valley recently?
>
> https://www.gettyimages.com.au/detail/photo/an-open-cast-or-drift-coal-mine-in-the-hunter-royalty-free-image/578842426?adppopup=true
>
>
> https://www.gettyimages.com.au/detail/photo/coal-mining-royalty-free-image/1279738823?adppopup=true
>

one or two coal mines. big deal. bloody wind turbines are popping up
everywhere!

>
> You need to get out more.

I know

>
>> the manufacture, upkeep, and replacement of which is environmentally
>> polluting,
>
> **EVERYTHING humans do is polluting. The trick is to REDUCE the amount
> of pollution (notably CO2 and other GHGs) whilst doing things.

I would suggest the best course of action is to implement measures to
offset the effects of what's causing the problem, so we don't have to
change things/our lifestyle. and before you say "like what?'" that's for
the scientists and engineers to discover.

>
>  and pay higher electricity prices for the privilege.
>
> **Coal is already a more expensive method of generating electricity
> than renewables. You're paying more, because of privatisation. Mostly
> of poles and wires. Blame the arseholes who sold off public assets to
> private corporations.

I'll blame the arseholes who made the sale of public assets necessary

>
>
>>  use electric cars when their production is also environmentally
>> polluting,
>
> **Production of ICE cars is polluting. AND whilst they're operating
> those ICE cars emit vast amounts of CO2 and other noxious chemicals.

how do they emit those?

>
>> etc., etc., but having said that, I have no great interest in the
>> debate.
>
> **[Translation] YOU don't understand squat about the issue.

I've never studied the issue, like you obviously have. as I've said, I
just object to being told I have to do this or that, or not do this or
that, to 'save the planet' when what we're told won't make any
difference. it's been said that if every car in Australia disappeared
overnight, it would have absolutely no effect on global warming. it's
the big polluters, India, China, and the USA who need to take severe
measures, since they can make a difference, not us.
>
>>
>>  I'm too old to care anymore. I just object to stupid decisions based
>> on an agenda, that have no benefit to us and are detrimental to our
>> lifestyle or finances.
>
> **Your lifestyle is already being affected by global warming and it's
> getting worse.
>
>>
>> I saw an interesting video showing how many supposedly disastrous
>> climate predictions have not come true,
>
> **No, you did not.

yes I did.

> Arrhenius' predictions have been remarkably accurate. Then there's this:
>
> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-climate-change-almost-40-years-ago/
>
>
> The facts are simple enough: CLIMATE SCIENTISTS have been warning us
> about human induced global warming for more than 120 years.
>
>
>>  but I haven't been able to find it again.
>
> **Duh. What a surprise.

you're welcome to help me look

>
>
>>  so I question how much about the current scenario is fact or fiction.
>
> **You may question whatever you wish, but as long as you fail
> miserably to study the science, you will remain ever ignorant.
>
>
>>  the latest nonsense I just saw is that humans breathing is causing
>> climate change.
>
> **Well, it's pretty bloody obvious that humans are causing climate
> change. We are the ones burning fossil fuels.

but this is going further, saying our mere existence is a problem.

>
>
>>  guess we have to kill a billion or so ppl to fix that!
>
> **I hate to burst your bubble, but reliable estimates of the number of
> humans that this planet can support in a lifestyle similar to the
> average Aussie, run to around 500 million. That's it. Anymore and we
> begin to eat into irreplaceable resources.
>
>

that's hard to believe. looks like it's time to colonise other planets then

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