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* OT: Down the gurgler US goesÖrdög
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 `* Re: OT: Down the gurgler US goesD. Ray
  `* Re: OT: Down the gurgler US goesPhil Hendry's Chop shop
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 by: Ördög - Thu, 11 Apr 2024 23:22 UTC

National Security Expert: If Trump Loses Election, Expect Violence
/Amanpour and Company, 391K subscribers, 12 Apr 2024/
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MM6JbcSsWAE>

"Looking ahead to the 2024 election, some fear upheaval should Donald
Trump lose again. National security expert Juliette Kayyem argues, "The
government isn't ready for the violence Trump might unleash." She joins
Hari Sreenivasan to discuss what President Biden must do to plan for the
worst."

~~~ ~~~

Pretend "law and order preaching" MAGA rightards are proven to be
violence addicted sore losers. It looks like all US pretences about
their world leading reverence for democracy and civility are about to
crumble.

--
Ördög
The on duty Newsgroup Devil

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 by: Phil Hendry's C - Fri, 12 Apr 2024 15:40 UTC

On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 09:22:05 +1000
Ördög <ordog@your.service.biz> wrote:

> If Trump Loses Election, Expect Violence
He won't, but when he wins expect violence from all the illegals he's
going to deport.

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Phil Hendry's Chop shop <jon@than.ball> wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 09:22:05 +1000
> Ördög <ordog@your.service.biz> wrote:
>
>> If Trump Loses Election, Expect Violence
>
> He won't, but when he wins expect violence from all the illegals he's
> going to deport.

Why didn’t he deport them last time he was President?

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 by: Phil Hendry's C - Fri, 12 Apr 2024 21:37 UTC

On Fri, 12 Apr 24 21:21:33 UTC
D. Ray <d@ray> wrote:

> Phil Hendry's Chop shop <jon@than.ball> wrote:
> > On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 09:22:05 +1000
> > Ördög <ordog@your.service.biz> wrote:
> >
> >> If Trump Loses Election, Expect Violence
> >
> > He won't, but when he wins expect violence from all the illegals
> > he's going to deport.
>
> Why didn’t he deport them last time he was President?

The wall needed to be done first to keep the scurvy bastids out for
good!

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 by: Lawrence D'Oliv - Sat, 13 Apr 2024 05:52 UTC

On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 15:37:30 -0600, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:

> On Fri, 12 Apr 24 21:21:33 UTC D. Ray <d@ray> wrote:
>
>> Why didn’t he deport them last time he was President?
>
> The wall needed to be done first to keep the scurvy bastids out for
> good!

So what happened to that wall last time he was President?

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 by: Trevor Wilson - Sat, 13 Apr 2024 05:59 UTC

On 13/04/2024 3:52 pm, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 15:37:30 -0600, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 12 Apr 24 21:21:33 UTC D. Ray <d@ray> wrote:
>>
>>> Why didn’t he deport them last time he was President?
>>
>> The wall needed to be done first to keep the scurvy bastids out for
>> good!
>
> So what happened to that wall last time he was President?

**I thought he built a wall and Mexico paid for it?

Are you saying that Trump failed to get something done?

After all, isn't Trump the most successful businessman, casino operator
on the planet?

Oh, hang on a sec...

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 by: Phil Hendry's C - Sat, 13 Apr 2024 18:28 UTC

On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 05:52:51 -0000 (UTC)
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

> On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 15:37:30 -0600, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 12 Apr 24 21:21:33 UTC D. Ray <d@ray> wrote:
> >
> >> Why didn’t he deport them last time he was President?
> >
> > The wall needed to be done first to keep the scurvy bastids out for
> > good!
>
> So what happened to that wall last time he was President?

Over 400 miles of it were built.

Then Xiden tore them down, traitor.

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 by: Phil Hendry's C - Sat, 13 Apr 2024 18:29 UTC

On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 15:59:51 +1000
Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

> On 13/04/2024 3:52 pm, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> > On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 15:37:30 -0600, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 12 Apr 24 21:21:33 UTC D. Ray <d@ray> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Why didn’t he deport them last time he was President?
> >>
> >> The wall needed to be done first to keep the scurvy bastids out for
> >> good!
> >
> > So what happened to that wall last time he was President?
>
> **I thought he built a wall and Mexico paid for it?

He built 400+ miles of it.
> Are you saying that Trump failed to get something done?

After they stole the election yes.
> After all, isn't Trump the most successful businessman, casino
> operator on the planet?

No.
> Oh, hang on a sec...

Cawk worship choking your words back again?

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 by: Alan - Sat, 13 Apr 2024 20:57 UTC

On 2024-04-13 11:29, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 15:59:51 +1000
> Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>
>> On 13/04/2024 3:52 pm, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>> On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 15:37:30 -0600, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 12 Apr 24 21:21:33 UTC D. Ray <d@ray> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Why didn’t he deport them last time he was President?
>>>>
>>>> The wall needed to be done first to keep the scurvy bastids out for
>>>> good!
>>>
>>> So what happened to that wall last time he was President?
>>
>> **I thought he built a wall and Mexico paid for it?
>
> He built 400+ miles of it.

Incorrect.

>
>> Are you saying that Trump failed to get something done?
>
> After they stole the election yes.

How did they magically stop him from doing things BEFORE the election,
doofus.

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 by: Alan - Sat, 13 Apr 2024 20:57 UTC

On 2024-04-13 11:28, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 05:52:51 -0000 (UTC)
> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 15:37:30 -0600, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 12 Apr 24 21:21:33 UTC D. Ray <d@ray> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Why didn’t he deport them last time he was President?
>>>
>>> The wall needed to be done first to keep the scurvy bastids out for
>>> good!
>>
>> So what happened to that wall last time he was President?
>
> Over 400 miles of it were built.

False.

>
> Then Xiden tore them down, traitor.
>

And false.

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 by: Phil Hendry's C - Sat, 13 Apr 2024 21:34 UTC

On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 13:57:31 -0700
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

> On 2024-04-13 11:29, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
> > On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 15:59:51 +1000
> > Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
> >
> >> On 13/04/2024 3:52 pm, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 15:37:30 -0600, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Fri, 12 Apr 24 21:21:33 UTC D. Ray <d@ray> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Why didn’t he deport them last time he was President?
> >>>>
> >>>> The wall needed to be done first to keep the scurvy bastids out
> >>>> for good!
> >>>
> >>> So what happened to that wall last time he was President?
> >>
> >> **I thought he built a wall and Mexico paid for it?
> >
> > He built 400+ miles of it.
>
> Incorrect.

Yes you are, as always.

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2022-02-07/how-much-of-president-donald-trumps-border-wall-was-built

Before Biden stopped new construction on the wall, the Trump administration had built 458 miles of what it dubbed “border wall system,” according to final figures compiled by U.S. Customs and Border Protection and provided to U.S. News.

The wall consists mostly of 18- to 30-foot steel bollards anchored in
concrete. The barriers also feature sensors, lights, cameras and
parallel roads in some places.

Say, do you ever tire of getting your ass thoroughly kicked in here?

> >
> >> Are you saying that Trump failed to get something done?
> >
> > After they stole the election yes.
>
> How did they magically stop him from doing things BEFORE the
> election, doofus.

They obstructed, planted deep state assets in his cabinet and generally
played the typical Uniparty traitor game.

But even at that:

Some 226 miles, or nearly half of the total number of miles built, run along the border in Arizona, including more than 100 miles in both the Border Patrol sector near Yuma and in the sector near Tucson.

About 100 miles were constructed in New Mexico, largely in a stretch along the eastern part of the state’s border that bumps into Texas near El Paso. A total of 55 miles were built in the Lone Star State along the Rio Grande by El Paso and in lengths by Lardeo and in the Rio Grande Valley.

California saw the completion of construction of 77 miles of wall in
areas along the border near San Diego and El Centro.

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 by: Phil Hendry's C - Sat, 13 Apr 2024 21:39 UTC

On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 13:57:49 -0700
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

> On 2024-04-13 11:28, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
> > On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 05:52:51 -0000 (UTC)
> > Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 15:37:30 -0600, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Fri, 12 Apr 24 21:21:33 UTC D. Ray <d@ray> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Why didn’t he deport them last time he was President?
> >>>
> >>> The wall needed to be done first to keep the scurvy bastids out
> >>> for good!
> >>
> >> So what happened to that wall last time he was President?
> >
> > Over 400 miles of it were built.
>
> False.

You're losing bigly again, turdlicker:

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2022-02-07/how-much-of-president-donald-trumps-border-wall-was-built

Before Biden stopped new construction on the wall, the Trump administration had built 458 miles of what it dubbed “border wall system,” according to final figures compiled by U.S. Customs and Border Protection and provided to U.S. News.

The wall consists mostly of 18- to 30-foot steel bollards anchored in
concrete. The barriers also feature sensors, lights, cameras and
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Some 226 miles, or nearly half of the total number of miles built, run along the border in Arizona, including more than 100 miles in both the Border Patrol sector near Yuma and in the sector near Tucson.

About 100 miles were constructed in New Mexico, largely in a stretch along the eastern part of the state’s border that bumps into Texas near El Paso. A total of 55 miles were built in the Lone Star State along the Rio Grande by El Paso and in lengths by Lardeo and in the Rio Grande Valley.

California saw the completion of construction of 77 miles of wall in
areas along the border near San Diego and El Centro.
>
> >
> > Then Xiden tore them down, traitor.
> >
>
> And false.

You lie again, turdlicker:

https://www.curbed.com/2021/01/president-biden-stopped-trumps-border-wall.html

https://nypost.com/2023/08/19/biden-sells-border-wall-parts-to-thwart-gop-push-to-use-them/

The Biden administration is quietly auctioning off millions of dollars’ worth of unused parts from former President Trump’s border wall for peanuts – in an apparent end-run around pending legislation in Congress.

Since April, GovPlanet, an online auction house specializing in military surplus, has sold 81 lots of steel “square structural tubes” — intended for use as vertical bollards in the border barrier’s 30-foot-tall panels — hauling in about $2 million.

On Tuesday, GovPlanet netted $154,200 for 729 of the 28-foot-tall hollow beams, sold in five separate lots for an average $212 apiece.

Thirteen more lots are set to be auctioned on Aug. 23 and Aug. 30.

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 by: Alan - Sun, 14 Apr 2024 16:37 UTC

On 2024-04-13 14:34, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 13:57:31 -0700 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2024-04-13 11:29, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
>>> On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 15:59:51 +1000 Trevor Wilson
>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 13/04/2024 3:52 pm, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 15:37:30 -0600, Phil Hendry's Chop shop
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 12 Apr 24 21:21:33 UTC D. Ray <d@ray> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why didn’t he deport them last time he was President?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The wall needed to be done first to keep the scurvy bastids
>>>>>> out for good!
>>>>>
>>>>> So what happened to that wall last time he was President?
>>>>
>>>> **I thought he built a wall and Mexico paid for it?
>>>
>>> He built 400+ miles of it.
>>
>> Incorrect.
>
> Yes you are, as always.
>
> https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2022-02-07/how-much-of-president-donald-trumps-border-wall-was-built
>
> Before Biden stopped new construction on the wall, the Trump
> administration had built 458 miles of what it dubbed “border wall
> system,” according to final figures compiled by U.S. Customs and
> Border Protection and provided to U.S. News.
>
> The wall consists mostly of 18- to 30-foot steel bollards anchored
> in concrete. The barriers also feature sensors, lights, cameras and
> parallel roads in some places.
>
> Say, do you ever tire of getting your ass thoroughly kicked in here?

The part you left out:

"The vast majority of the 458 miles were constructed in places where
some kind of barrier already existed,"

>
>
>>>
>>>> Are you saying that Trump failed to get something done?
>>>
>>> After they stole the election yes.
>>
>> How did they magically stop him from doing things BEFORE the
>> election, doofus.
>
> They obstructed, planted deep state assets in his cabinet and
> generally played the typical Uniparty traitor game.

LOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLLOL!

>
> But even at that:
>
> Some 226 miles, or nearly half of the total number of miles built,
> run along the border in Arizona, including more than 100 miles in
> both the Border Patrol sector near Yuma and in the sector near
> Tucson.
>
> About 100 miles were constructed in New Mexico, largely in a stretch
> along the eastern part of the state’s border that bumps into Texas
> near El Paso. A total of 55 miles were built in the Lone Star State
> along the Rio Grande by El Paso and in lengths by Lardeo and in the
> Rio Grande Valley.
>
> California saw the completion of construction of 77 miles of wall in
> areas along the border near San Diego and El Centro.
>

'The vast majority of the 458 miles were constructed in places where
some kind of barrier already existed,'

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 by: Alan - Sun, 14 Apr 2024 16:40 UTC

On 2024-04-13 14:39, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 13:57:49 -0700 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2024-04-13 11:28, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
>>> On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 05:52:51 -0000 (UTC) Lawrence D'Oliveiro
>>> <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 15:37:30 -0600, Phil Hendry's Chop shop
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 12 Apr 24 21:21:33 UTC D. Ray <d@ray> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Why didn’t he deport them last time he was President?
>>>>>
>>>>> The wall needed to be done first to keep the scurvy bastids
>>>>> out for good!
>>>>
>>>> So what happened to that wall last time he was President?
>>>
>>> Over 400 miles of it were built.
>>
>> False.
>
> You're losing bigly again, turdlicker:
>
> https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2022-02-07/how-much-of-president-donald-trumps-border-wall-was-built
>
> Before Biden stopped new construction on the wall, the Trump
> administration had built 458 miles of what it dubbed “border wall
> system,” according to final figures compiled by U.S. Customs and
> Border Protection and provided to U.S. News.
>
> The wall consists mostly of 18- to 30-foot steel bollards anchored
> in concrete. The barriers also feature sensors, lights, cameras and
> parallel roads in some places.
>
> Some 226 miles, or nearly half of the total number of miles built,
> run along the border in Arizona, including more than 100 miles in
> both the Border Patrol sector near Yuma and in the sector near
> Tucson.
>
> About 100 miles were constructed in New Mexico, largely in a stretch
> along the eastern part of the state’s border that bumps into Texas
> near El Paso. A total of 55 miles were built in the Lone Star State
> along the Rio Grande by El Paso and in lengths by Lardeo and in the
> Rio Grande Valley.
>
> California saw the completion of construction of 77 miles of wall in
> areas along the border near San Diego and El Centro.

'The vast majority of the 458 miles were constructed in places where
some kind of barrier already existed,'

>>
>>>
>>> Then Xiden tore them down, traitor.
>>>
>>
>> And false.
>
> You lie again, turdlicker:
>
> https://www.curbed.com/2021/01/president-biden-stopped-trumps-border-wall.html

Interesting you provide no quotes from this article, doofus.

Let me fix that:

'The project shrank in scope over the years, from the end-to-end wall he
promised in 2016 to 1,000 miles of border. In the end, just 450 miles of
it were built, mainly along the southern border of California and
Arizona, plus a little in Texas. Nearly all of it replaced existing
barriers. Just 47 miles blocked previously unprotected parts of the
border. '

>
>
> https://nypost.com/2023/08/19/biden-sells-border-wall-parts-to-thwart-gop-push-to-use-them/
>
> The Biden administration is quietly auctioning off millions of
> dollars’ worth of unused parts from former President Trump’s border
> wall for peanuts – in an apparent end-run around pending legislation
> in Congress.

"unused parts" means nothing was "tor[n] down", doofus.

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 by: Phil Hendry's C - Sun, 14 Apr 2024 16:53 UTC

On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 09:37:10 -0700
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

> On 2024-04-13 14:34, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
> > On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 13:57:31 -0700 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2024-04-13 11:29, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 15:59:51 +1000 Trevor Wilson
> >>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 13/04/2024 3:52 pm, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> >>>>> On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 15:37:30 -0600, Phil Hendry's Chop shop
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Fri, 12 Apr 24 21:21:33 UTC D. Ray <d@ray> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Why didn’t he deport them last time he was President?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The wall needed to be done first to keep the scurvy bastids
> >>>>>> out for good!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So what happened to that wall last time he was President?
> >>>>
> >>>> **I thought he built a wall and Mexico paid for it?
> >>>
> >>> He built 400+ miles of it.
> >>
> >> Incorrect.
> >
> > Yes you are, as always.
> >
> > https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2022-02-07/how-much-of-president-donald-trumps-border-wall-was-built
> >
> > Before Biden stopped new construction on the wall, the Trump
> > administration had built 458 miles of what it dubbed “border wall
> > system,” according to final figures compiled by U.S. Customs and
> > Border Protection and provided to U.S. News.
> >
> > The wall consists mostly of 18- to 30-foot steel bollards anchored
> > in concrete. The barriers also feature sensors, lights, cameras and
> > parallel roads in some places.
> >
> > Say, do you ever tire of getting your ass thoroughly kicked in
> > here?
>
> The part you left out:
>
> "The vast majority of the 458 miles were constructed in places where
> some kind of barrier already existed,"

"Some kind of barrier" meant 4 strand barbed cattle wire or less, ftmp.

>
> >
> >
> >>>
> >>>> Are you saying that Trump failed to get something done?
> >>>
> >>> After they stole the election yes.
> >>
> >> How did they magically stop him from doing things BEFORE the
> >> election, doofus.
> >
> > They obstructed, planted deep state assets in his cabinet and
> > generally played the typical Uniparty traitor game.
>
> LOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLLOL!

Hardly amusing, except to traitors like yourself.
>
> >
> > But even at that:
> >
> > Some 226 miles, or nearly half of the total number of miles built,
> > run along the border in Arizona, including more than 100 miles in
> > both the Border Patrol sector near Yuma and in the sector near
> > Tucson.
> >
> > About 100 miles were constructed in New Mexico, largely in a stretch
> > along the eastern part of the state’s border that bumps into Texas
> > near El Paso. A total of 55 miles were built in the Lone Star State
> > along the Rio Grande by El Paso and in lengths by Lardeo and in the
> > Rio Grande Valley.
> >
> > California saw the completion of construction of 77 miles of wall
> > in areas along the border near San Diego and El Centro.
> >
>
> 'The vast majority of the 458 miles were constructed in places where
> some kind of barrier already existed,'

4 strand barbed wire ftmp, troll.

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 by: Phil Hendry's C - Sun, 14 Apr 2024 16:57 UTC

On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 09:40:54 -0700
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

> On 2024-04-13 14:39, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
> > On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 13:57:49 -0700 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2024-04-13 11:28, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 05:52:51 -0000 (UTC) Lawrence D'Oliveiro
> >>> <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 15:37:30 -0600, Phil Hendry's Chop shop
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, 12 Apr 24 21:21:33 UTC D. Ray <d@ray> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Why didn’t he deport them last time he was President?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The wall needed to be done first to keep the scurvy bastids
> >>>>> out for good!
> >>>>
> >>>> So what happened to that wall last time he was President?
> >>>
> >>> Over 400 miles of it were built.
> >>
> >> False.
> >
> > You're losing bigly again, turdlicker:
> >
> > https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2022-02-07/how-much-of-president-donald-trumps-border-wall-was-built
> >
> > Before Biden stopped new construction on the wall, the Trump
> > administration had built 458 miles of what it dubbed “border wall
> > system,” according to final figures compiled by U.S. Customs and
> > Border Protection and provided to U.S. News.
> >
> > The wall consists mostly of 18- to 30-foot steel bollards anchored
> > in concrete. The barriers also feature sensors, lights, cameras and
> > parallel roads in some places.
> >
> > Some 226 miles, or nearly half of the total number of miles built,
> > run along the border in Arizona, including more than 100 miles in
> > both the Border Patrol sector near Yuma and in the sector near
> > Tucson.
> >
> > About 100 miles were constructed in New Mexico, largely in a stretch
> > along the eastern part of the state’s border that bumps into Texas
> > near El Paso. A total of 55 miles were built in the Lone Star State
> > along the Rio Grande by El Paso and in lengths by Lardeo and in the
> > Rio Grande Valley.
> >
> > California saw the completion of construction of 77 miles of wall
> > in areas along the border near San Diego and El Centro.
>
>
> 'The vast majority of the 458 miles were constructed in places where
> some kind of barrier already existed,'

4 strand barbed cattle wire, turdlicker.
>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Then Xiden tore them down, traitor.
> >>>
> >>
> >> And false.
> >
> > You lie again, turdlicker:
> >
> > https://www.curbed.com/2021/01/president-biden-stopped-trumps-border-wall.html
> >
>
> Interesting you provide no quotes from this article, doofus.
>
> Let me fix that:
>
> 'The project shrank in scope over the years, from the end-to-end wall
> he promised in 2016 to 1,000 miles of border. In the end, just 450
> miles of it were built, mainly along the southern border of
> California and Arizona, plus a little in Texas. Nearly all of it
> replaced existing barriers. Just 47 miles blocked previously
> unprotected parts of the border. '

4 strand babed wire is not "protective".
> >
> >
> > https://nypost.com/2023/08/19/biden-sells-border-wall-parts-to-thwart-gop-push-to-use-them/
> >
> > The Biden administration is quietly auctioning off millions of
> > dollars’ worth of unused parts from former President Trump’s border
> > wall for peanuts – in an apparent end-run around pending legislation
> > in Congress.
>
> "unused parts" means nothing was "tor[n] down", doofus.

In actuality plenty was torn down - many containers have been pulled
back.

But how many times will you lie so I can keep kicking your scumsucking
ass?

https://www.kgun9.com/news/local-news/shipping-container-border-wall-removal-begins-in-cochise-county

Posted at 6:52 PM, Jan 05, 2023 and last updated 6:52 PM, Jan 05, 2023
COCHISE COUNTY, Ariz. (KGUN) — The shipping containers along the Arizona-Mexico border are now officially coming down.

One section of the makeshift border barrier stretches for about four miles in the Coronado National Forest in Cochise County, south and west of Sierra Vista.

KGUN 9 got an up-close view of the progress on Thursday. Two truck convoys were seen driving north along the forest’s winding and bumpy dirt roads, towards Sonoita. About 15 containers were moved out in the early afternoon.

Meanwhile, other equipment moved containers away from the border and staged them in an area to be picked up.

A contract for the removal project reveals the state will pay more than $57 million to AshBritt, a management and logistics contractor. That contract also specifies that the containers along this section of the border will use a “final resting location at Tucson Jail,” with the project taking an estimated 60 days to complete.

https://news.yahoo.com/arizona-pulling-down-border-wall-184215012.html

Arizona has agreed to tear down a makeshift wall built from used shipping containers along the border with Mexico.

Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey agreed to remove the wall as part of a lawsuit filed against him last week by the Biden administration, according to a report in The New York Times.

The outgoing Republican governor issued an executive order in August telling the state’s Department of Emergency and Military Affairs to use the shipping container to plug miles of gaps on the border.

The 8,800-pound containers were stacked and welded together into a 22ft high wall and covered in four feet of razor wire.

The White House had argued that the wall, which has cost around $82m, was illegally built on federal land and also accused the state of damaging vegetation and seasonal streams in a national forest.

Contractors have hauled the shipping containers to a popular migrant
route near Yuma, Arizona, as well as a remote area of the Coronado
National Forest.

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 by: Alan - Sun, 14 Apr 2024 17:46 UTC

On 2024-04-14 09:53, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 09:37:10 -0700
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2024-04-13 14:34, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
>>> On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 13:57:31 -0700 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-04-13 11:29, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 15:59:51 +1000 Trevor Wilson
>>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 13/04/2024 3:52 pm, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 15:37:30 -0600, Phil Hendry's Chop shop
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 12 Apr 24 21:21:33 UTC D. Ray <d@ray> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why didn’t he deport them last time he was President?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The wall needed to be done first to keep the scurvy bastids
>>>>>>>> out for good!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So what happened to that wall last time he was President?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **I thought he built a wall and Mexico paid for it?
>>>>>
>>>>> He built 400+ miles of it.
>>>>
>>>> Incorrect.
>>>
>>> Yes you are, as always.
>>>
>>> https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2022-02-07/how-much-of-president-donald-trumps-border-wall-was-built
>>>
>>> Before Biden stopped new construction on the wall, the Trump
>>> administration had built 458 miles of what it dubbed “border wall
>>> system,” according to final figures compiled by U.S. Customs and
>>> Border Protection and provided to U.S. News.
>>>
>>> The wall consists mostly of 18- to 30-foot steel bollards anchored
>>> in concrete. The barriers also feature sensors, lights, cameras and
>>> parallel roads in some places.
>>>
>>> Say, do you ever tire of getting your ass thoroughly kicked in
>>> here?
>>
>> The part you left out:
>>
>> "The vast majority of the 458 miles were constructed in places where
>> some kind of barrier already existed,"
>
> "Some kind of barrier" meant 4 strand barbed cattle wire or less, ftmp.

And you know this, do you?

>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you saying that Trump failed to get something done?
>>>>>
>>>>> After they stole the election yes.
>>>>
>>>> How did they magically stop him from doing things BEFORE the
>>>> election, doofus.
>>>
>>> They obstructed, planted deep state assets in his cabinet and
>>> generally played the typical Uniparty traitor game.
>>
>> LOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLLOL!
>
> Hardly amusing, except to traitors like yourself.

To whom or what am I supposed to be a traitor, doofus?

>>
>>>
>>> But even at that:
>>>
>>> Some 226 miles, or nearly half of the total number of miles built,
>>> run along the border in Arizona, including more than 100 miles in
>>> both the Border Patrol sector near Yuma and in the sector near
>>> Tucson.
>>>
>>> About 100 miles were constructed in New Mexico, largely in a stretch
>>> along the eastern part of the state’s border that bumps into Texas
>>> near El Paso. A total of 55 miles were built in the Lone Star State
>>> along the Rio Grande by El Paso and in lengths by Lardeo and in the
>>> Rio Grande Valley.
>>>
>>> California saw the completion of construction of 77 miles of wall
>>> in areas along the border near San Diego and El Centro.
>>>
>>
>> 'The vast majority of the 458 miles were constructed in places where
>> some kind of barrier already existed,'
>
>
> 4 strand barbed wire ftmp, troll.

And your source for this is... ...what?

And while you're at it:

Show that Trump's "wall" wasn't as easily defeated.

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 by: Alan - Sun, 14 Apr 2024 17:48 UTC

On 2024-04-14 09:57, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 09:40:54 -0700
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2024-04-13 14:39, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
>>> On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 13:57:49 -0700 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-04-13 11:28, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 05:52:51 -0000 (UTC) Lawrence D'Oliveiro
>>>>> <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 15:37:30 -0600, Phil Hendry's Chop shop
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 12 Apr 24 21:21:33 UTC D. Ray <d@ray> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why didn’t he deport them last time he was President?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The wall needed to be done first to keep the scurvy bastids
>>>>>>> out for good!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So what happened to that wall last time he was President?
>>>>>
>>>>> Over 400 miles of it were built.
>>>>
>>>> False.
>>>
>>> You're losing bigly again, turdlicker:
>>>
>>> https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2022-02-07/how-much-of-president-donald-trumps-border-wall-was-built
>>>
>>> Before Biden stopped new construction on the wall, the Trump
>>> administration had built 458 miles of what it dubbed “border wall
>>> system,” according to final figures compiled by U.S. Customs and
>>> Border Protection and provided to U.S. News.
>>>
>>> The wall consists mostly of 18- to 30-foot steel bollards anchored
>>> in concrete. The barriers also feature sensors, lights, cameras and
>>> parallel roads in some places.
>>>
>>> Some 226 miles, or nearly half of the total number of miles built,
>>> run along the border in Arizona, including more than 100 miles in
>>> both the Border Patrol sector near Yuma and in the sector near
>>> Tucson.
>>>
>>> About 100 miles were constructed in New Mexico, largely in a stretch
>>> along the eastern part of the state’s border that bumps into Texas
>>> near El Paso. A total of 55 miles were built in the Lone Star State
>>> along the Rio Grande by El Paso and in lengths by Lardeo and in the
>>> Rio Grande Valley.
>>>
>>> California saw the completion of construction of 77 miles of wall
>>> in areas along the border near San Diego and El Centro.
>>
>>
>> 'The vast majority of the 458 miles were constructed in places where
>> some kind of barrier already existed,'
>
> 4 strand barbed cattle wire, turdlicker.
>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Then Xiden tore them down, traitor.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And false.
>>>
>>> You lie again, turdlicker:
>>>
>>> https://www.curbed.com/2021/01/president-biden-stopped-trumps-border-wall.html
>>>
>>
>> Interesting you provide no quotes from this article, doofus.
>>
>> Let me fix that:
>>
>> 'The project shrank in scope over the years, from the end-to-end wall
>> he promised in 2016 to 1,000 miles of border. In the end, just 450
>> miles of it were built, mainly along the southern border of
>> California and Arizona, plus a little in Texas. Nearly all of it
>> replaced existing barriers. Just 47 miles blocked previously
>> unprotected parts of the border. '
>
> 4 strand babed wire is not "protective".
>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://nypost.com/2023/08/19/biden-sells-border-wall-parts-to-thwart-gop-push-to-use-them/
>>>
>>> The Biden administration is quietly auctioning off millions of
>>> dollars’ worth of unused parts from former President Trump’s border
>>> wall for peanuts – in an apparent end-run around pending legislation
>>> in Congress.
>>
>> "unused parts" means nothing was "tor[n] down", doofus.
>
> In actuality plenty was torn down - many containers have been pulled
> back.
>
> But how many times will you lie so I can keep kicking your scumsucking
> ass?
>
> https://www.kgun9.com/news/local-news/shipping-container-border-wall-removal-begins-in-cochise-county
>
> Posted at 6:52 PM, Jan 05, 2023 and last updated 6:52 PM, Jan 05, 2023
> COCHISE COUNTY, Ariz. (KGUN) — The shipping containers along the Arizona-Mexico border are now officially coming down.
>
> One section of the makeshift border barrier stretches for about four miles in the Coronado National Forest in Cochise County, south and west of Sierra Vista.
>
> KGUN 9 got an up-close view of the progress on Thursday. Two truck convoys were seen driving north along the forest’s winding and bumpy dirt roads, towards Sonoita. About 15 containers were moved out in the early afternoon.
>
> Meanwhile, other equipment moved containers away from the border and staged them in an area to be picked up.
>
> A contract for the removal project reveals the state will pay more than $57 million to AshBritt, a management and logistics contractor. That contract also specifies that the containers along this section of the border will use a “final resting location at Tucson Jail,” with the project taking an estimated 60 days to complete.
>
> https://news.yahoo.com/arizona-pulling-down-border-wall-184215012.html
>
> Arizona has agreed to tear down a makeshift wall built from used shipping containers along the border with Mexico.
>
> Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey agreed to remove the wall as part of a lawsuit filed against him last week by the Biden administration, according to a report in The New York Times.
>
> The outgoing Republican governor issued an executive order in August telling the state’s Department of Emergency and Military Affairs to use the shipping container to plug miles of gaps on the border.
>
> The 8,800-pound containers were stacked and welded together into a 22ft high wall and covered in four feet of razor wire.
>
> The White House had argued that the wall, which has cost around $82m, was illegally built on federal land and also accused the state of damaging vegetation and seasonal streams in a national forest.
>
> Contractors have hauled the shipping containers to a popular migrant
> route near Yuma, Arizona, as well as a remote area of the Coronado
> National Forest.
>
>
>

You simpleton.

Those shipping containers were NOT PART OF TRUMP'S WALL.

Read your own source:

'The outgoing Republican governor issued an executive order in August
telling the state’s Department of Emergency and Military Affairs to use
the shipping container to plug miles of gaps on the border.'

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 by: Phil Hendry's C - Sun, 14 Apr 2024 17:58 UTC

On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 10:46:56 -0700
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

> On 2024-04-14 09:53, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
> > On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 09:37:10 -0700
> > Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2024-04-13 14:34, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 13:57:31 -0700 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 2024-04-13 11:29, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
> >>>>> On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 15:59:51 +1000 Trevor Wilson
> >>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 13/04/2024 3:52 pm, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 15:37:30 -0600, Phil Hendry's Chop shop
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Fri, 12 Apr 24 21:21:33 UTC D. Ray <d@ray> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Why didn’t he deport them last time he was President?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The wall needed to be done first to keep the scurvy bastids
> >>>>>>>> out for good!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> So what happened to that wall last time he was President?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> **I thought he built a wall and Mexico paid for it?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> He built 400+ miles of it.
> >>>>
> >>>> Incorrect.
> >>>
> >>> Yes you are, as always.
> >>>
> >>> https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2022-02-07/how-much-of-president-donald-trumps-border-wall-was-built
> >>>
> >>> Before Biden stopped new construction on the wall, the Trump
> >>> administration had built 458 miles of what it dubbed “border wall
> >>> system,” according to final figures compiled by U.S. Customs and
> >>> Border Protection and provided to U.S. News.
> >>>
> >>> The wall consists mostly of 18- to 30-foot steel bollards anchored
> >>> in concrete. The barriers also feature sensors, lights, cameras
> >>> and parallel roads in some places.
> >>>
> >>> Say, do you ever tire of getting your ass thoroughly kicked in
> >>> here?
> >>
> >> The part you left out:
> >>
> >> "The vast majority of the 458 miles were constructed in places
> >> where some kind of barrier already existed,"
> >
> > "Some kind of barrier" meant 4 strand barbed cattle wire or less,
> > ftmp.
>
> And you know this, do you?

Up close and personally, of course!

https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2008/0403/p01s02-usgn.html

After driving 10 miles along the expanded US-Mexican border fence near her farm, Dawn Garner offers her dour assessment: "Anyone can plainly see this wouldn't stop a flea, let alone a migrant or terrorist."

A jagged patchwork of metal mesh, corrugated steel, vertical bollards, chest-high railroad rails, and waist-high barbed wire has been cobbled together along the southern border east of Naco by various National Guard units over the past summer. Hard-hatted workers from a general contractor, Sundt Inc.., continue to dig ditches and grade terrain across plains of fluorescent-green prairie grass framed by saw-toothed mountains.

"This [fence] is just too easy to cut into, climb over, or go under or
around," says Ms. Garner. Twenty to 40 illegal migrant workers cut
across her five-acre farm daily, she says.

https://images.csmonitor.com/csmarchives/2008/04/ABORDERTHREE_P2.jpg?alias=standard_900x600nc

https://assets.thenewhumanitarian.org/s3fs-public/styles/responsive_large/public/legacy_s3_root/a_section_of_the_border_fence_in_between_the_us_and_mexico_in_southern_arizona._people_have_to_hike_three_to_10_days_from_this_point_in_the_desert_edit.jpg.webp?itok=LVkiNBNK

https://newlinesmag.com/wp-content/uploads/A-4a-web.jpg

>
> >
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Are you saying that Trump failed to get something done?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> After they stole the election yes.
> >>>>
> >>>> How did they magically stop him from doing things BEFORE the
> >>>> election, doofus.
> >>>
> >>> They obstructed, planted deep state assets in his cabinet and
> >>> generally played the typical Uniparty traitor game.
> >>
> >> LOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLLOL!
> >
> > Hardly amusing, except to traitors like yourself.
>
> To whom or what am I supposed to be a traitor, doofus?

Basic liberty, security, and the rule of law.
>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> But even at that:
> >>>
> >>> Some 226 miles, or nearly half of the total number of miles built,
> >>> run along the border in Arizona, including more than 100 miles in
> >>> both the Border Patrol sector near Yuma and in the sector near
> >>> Tucson.
> >>>
> >>> About 100 miles were constructed in New Mexico, largely in a
> >>> stretch along the eastern part of the state’s border that bumps
> >>> into Texas near El Paso. A total of 55 miles were built in the
> >>> Lone Star State along the Rio Grande by El Paso and in lengths by
> >>> Lardeo and in the Rio Grande Valley.
> >>>
> >>> California saw the completion of construction of 77 miles of wall
> >>> in areas along the border near San Diego and El Centro.
> >>>
> >>
> >> 'The vast majority of the 458 miles were constructed in places
> >> where some kind of barrier already existed,'
> >
> >
> > 4 strand barbed wire ftmp, troll.
>
> And your source for this is... ...what?

https://newlinesmag.com/wp-content/uploads/A-4a-web.jpg

> And while you're at it:
>
> Show that Trump's "wall" wasn't as easily defeated.

Trump was prototyping multiple styles of wall, clownshow:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/what-trump-got-right-wrong-about-his-new-border-barrier-n1056156

"Speaking to reporters, Trump pointed to the interior of the steel
bollard fencing, which has reinforcing bars and concrete inside, and
said the walls were “wired” to detect attempts to cross. He said three
countries had sent representatives to study the wall"

But then:

(Lawmakers actually specifically wrote into the 2019 funding bill that
new designs couldn't be used.)

End of story.

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 by: Phil Hendry's C - Sun, 14 Apr 2024 18:01 UTC

On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 10:48:14 -0700
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

> On 2024-04-14 09:57, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
> > On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 09:40:54 -0700
> > Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2024-04-13 14:39, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 13:57:49 -0700 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 2024-04-13 11:28, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
> >>>>> On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 05:52:51 -0000 (UTC) Lawrence D'Oliveiro
> >>>>> <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 15:37:30 -0600, Phil Hendry's Chop shop
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Fri, 12 Apr 24 21:21:33 UTC D. Ray <d@ray> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Why didn’t he deport them last time he was President?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The wall needed to be done first to keep the scurvy bastids
> >>>>>>> out for good!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So what happened to that wall last time he was President?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Over 400 miles of it were built.
> >>>>
> >>>> False.
> >>>
> >>> You're losing bigly again, turdlicker:
> >>>
> >>> https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2022-02-07/how-much-of-president-donald-trumps-border-wall-was-built
> >>>
> >>> Before Biden stopped new construction on the wall, the Trump
> >>> administration had built 458 miles of what it dubbed “border wall
> >>> system,” according to final figures compiled by U.S. Customs and
> >>> Border Protection and provided to U.S. News.
> >>>
> >>> The wall consists mostly of 18- to 30-foot steel bollards anchored
> >>> in concrete. The barriers also feature sensors, lights, cameras
> >>> and parallel roads in some places.
> >>>
> >>> Some 226 miles, or nearly half of the total number of miles built,
> >>> run along the border in Arizona, including more than 100 miles in
> >>> both the Border Patrol sector near Yuma and in the sector near
> >>> Tucson.
> >>>
> >>> About 100 miles were constructed in New Mexico, largely in a
> >>> stretch along the eastern part of the state’s border that bumps
> >>> into Texas near El Paso. A total of 55 miles were built in the
> >>> Lone Star State along the Rio Grande by El Paso and in lengths by
> >>> Lardeo and in the Rio Grande Valley.
> >>>
> >>> California saw the completion of construction of 77 miles of wall
> >>> in areas along the border near San Diego and El Centro.
> >>
> >>
> >> 'The vast majority of the 458 miles were constructed in places
> >> where some kind of barrier already existed,'
> >
> > 4 strand barbed cattle wire, turdlicker.
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Then Xiden tore them down, traitor.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> And false.
> >>>
> >>> You lie again, turdlicker:
> >>>
> >>> https://www.curbed.com/2021/01/president-biden-stopped-trumps-border-wall.html
> >>>
> >>
> >> Interesting you provide no quotes from this article, doofus.
> >>
> >> Let me fix that:
> >>
> >> 'The project shrank in scope over the years, from the end-to-end
> >> wall he promised in 2016 to 1,000 miles of border. In the end,
> >> just 450 miles of it were built, mainly along the southern border
> >> of California and Arizona, plus a little in Texas. Nearly all of it
> >> replaced existing barriers. Just 47 miles blocked previously
> >> unprotected parts of the border. '
> >
> > 4 strand babed wire is not "protective".
> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> https://nypost.com/2023/08/19/biden-sells-border-wall-parts-to-thwart-gop-push-to-use-them/
> >>>
> >>> The Biden administration is quietly auctioning off millions of
> >>> dollars’ worth of unused parts from former President Trump’s
> >>> border wall for peanuts – in an apparent end-run around pending
> >>> legislation in Congress.
> >>
> >> "unused parts" means nothing was "tor[n] down", doofus.
> >
> > In actuality plenty was torn down - many containers have been pulled
> > back.
> >
> > But how many times will you lie so I can keep kicking your
> > scumsucking ass?
> >
> > https://www.kgun9.com/news/local-news/shipping-container-border-wall-removal-begins-in-cochise-county
> >
> > Posted at 6:52 PM, Jan 05, 2023 and last updated 6:52 PM, Jan 05,
> > 2023 COCHISE COUNTY, Ariz. (KGUN) — The shipping containers along
> > the Arizona-Mexico border are now officially coming down.
> >
> > One section of the makeshift border barrier stretches for about
> > four miles in the Coronado National Forest in Cochise County, south
> > and west of Sierra Vista.
> >
> > KGUN 9 got an up-close view of the progress on Thursday. Two truck
> > convoys were seen driving north along the forest’s winding and
> > bumpy dirt roads, towards Sonoita. About 15 containers were moved
> > out in the early afternoon.
> >
> > Meanwhile, other equipment moved containers away from the border
> > and staged them in an area to be picked up.
> >
> > A contract for the removal project reveals the state will pay more
> > than $57 million to AshBritt, a management and logistics
> > contractor. That contract also specifies that the containers along
> > this section of the border will use a “final resting location at
> > Tucson Jail,” with the project taking an estimated 60 days to
> > complete.
> >
> > https://news.yahoo.com/arizona-pulling-down-border-wall-184215012.html
> >
> > Arizona has agreed to tear down a makeshift wall built from used
> > shipping containers along the border with Mexico.
> >
> > Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey agreed to remove the wall as part of a
> > lawsuit filed against him last week by the Biden administration,
> > according to a report in The New York Times.
> >
> > The outgoing Republican governor issued an executive order in
> > August telling the state’s Department of Emergency and Military
> > Affairs to use the shipping container to plug miles of gaps on the
> > border.
> >
> > The 8,800-pound containers were stacked and welded together into a
> > 22ft high wall and covered in four feet of razor wire.
> >
> > The White House had argued that the wall, which has cost around
> > $82m, was illegally built on federal land and also accused the
> > state of damaging vegetation and seasonal streams in a national
> > forest.
> >
> > Contractors have hauled the shipping containers to a popular migrant
> > route near Yuma, Arizona, as well as a remote area of the Coronado
> > National Forest.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> You simpleton.

You trolling deep sate shill.

> Those shipping containers were NOT PART OF TRUMP'S WALL.

They were indeed part of our nation's patchworkborder wall, as deployed
by Gov. Ducey of Arizona.


> Read your own source:
>
> 'The outgoing Republican governor issued an executive order in August
> telling the state’s Department of Emergency and Military Affairs to
> use the shipping container to plug miles of gaps on the border.'

That's a good thing, and as this is a national border it was Trump's
border wall to preside over, duh.

You're just tying yourself in knots like spastic colon trying to find
anything to deflect over.

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On 2024-04-14 11:01, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 10:48:14 -0700
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2024-04-14 09:57, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
>>> On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 09:40:54 -0700
>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-04-13 14:39, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 13:57:49 -0700 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2024-04-13 11:28, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 05:52:51 -0000 (UTC) Lawrence D'Oliveiro
>>>>>>> <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 15:37:30 -0600, Phil Hendry's Chop shop
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 12 Apr 24 21:21:33 UTC D. Ray <d@ray> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Why didn’t he deport them last time he was President?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The wall needed to be done first to keep the scurvy bastids
>>>>>>>>> out for good!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So what happened to that wall last time he was President?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Over 400 miles of it were built.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> False.
>>>>>
>>>>> You're losing bigly again, turdlicker:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2022-02-07/how-much-of-president-donald-trumps-border-wall-was-built
>>>>>
>>>>> Before Biden stopped new construction on the wall, the Trump
>>>>> administration had built 458 miles of what it dubbed “border wall
>>>>> system,” according to final figures compiled by U.S. Customs and
>>>>> Border Protection and provided to U.S. News.
>>>>>
>>>>> The wall consists mostly of 18- to 30-foot steel bollards anchored
>>>>> in concrete. The barriers also feature sensors, lights, cameras
>>>>> and parallel roads in some places.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some 226 miles, or nearly half of the total number of miles built,
>>>>> run along the border in Arizona, including more than 100 miles in
>>>>> both the Border Patrol sector near Yuma and in the sector near
>>>>> Tucson.
>>>>>
>>>>> About 100 miles were constructed in New Mexico, largely in a
>>>>> stretch along the eastern part of the state’s border that bumps
>>>>> into Texas near El Paso. A total of 55 miles were built in the
>>>>> Lone Star State along the Rio Grande by El Paso and in lengths by
>>>>> Lardeo and in the Rio Grande Valley.
>>>>>
>>>>> California saw the completion of construction of 77 miles of wall
>>>>> in areas along the border near San Diego and El Centro.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 'The vast majority of the 458 miles were constructed in places
>>>> where some kind of barrier already existed,'
>>>
>>> 4 strand barbed cattle wire, turdlicker.
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then Xiden tore them down, traitor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And false.
>>>>>
>>>>> You lie again, turdlicker:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.curbed.com/2021/01/president-biden-stopped-trumps-border-wall.html
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Interesting you provide no quotes from this article, doofus.
>>>>
>>>> Let me fix that:
>>>>
>>>> 'The project shrank in scope over the years, from the end-to-end
>>>> wall he promised in 2016 to 1,000 miles of border. In the end,
>>>> just 450 miles of it were built, mainly along the southern border
>>>> of California and Arizona, plus a little in Texas. Nearly all of it
>>>> replaced existing barriers. Just 47 miles blocked previously
>>>> unprotected parts of the border. '
>>>
>>> 4 strand babed wire is not "protective".
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://nypost.com/2023/08/19/biden-sells-border-wall-parts-to-thwart-gop-push-to-use-them/
>>>>>
>>>>> The Biden administration is quietly auctioning off millions of
>>>>> dollars’ worth of unused parts from former President Trump’s
>>>>> border wall for peanuts – in an apparent end-run around pending
>>>>> legislation in Congress.
>>>>
>>>> "unused parts" means nothing was "tor[n] down", doofus.
>>>
>>> In actuality plenty was torn down - many containers have been pulled
>>> back.
>>>
>>> But how many times will you lie so I can keep kicking your
>>> scumsucking ass?
>>>
>>> https://www.kgun9.com/news/local-news/shipping-container-border-wall-removal-begins-in-cochise-county
>>>
>>> Posted at 6:52 PM, Jan 05, 2023 and last updated 6:52 PM, Jan 05,
>>> 2023 COCHISE COUNTY, Ariz. (KGUN) — The shipping containers along
>>> the Arizona-Mexico border are now officially coming down.
>>>
>>> One section of the makeshift border barrier stretches for about
>>> four miles in the Coronado National Forest in Cochise County, south
>>> and west of Sierra Vista.
>>>
>>> KGUN 9 got an up-close view of the progress on Thursday. Two truck
>>> convoys were seen driving north along the forest’s winding and
>>> bumpy dirt roads, towards Sonoita. About 15 containers were moved
>>> out in the early afternoon.
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, other equipment moved containers away from the border
>>> and staged them in an area to be picked up.
>>>
>>> A contract for the removal project reveals the state will pay more
>>> than $57 million to AshBritt, a management and logistics
>>> contractor. That contract also specifies that the containers along
>>> this section of the border will use a “final resting location at
>>> Tucson Jail,” with the project taking an estimated 60 days to
>>> complete.
>>>
>>> https://news.yahoo.com/arizona-pulling-down-border-wall-184215012.html
>>>
>>> Arizona has agreed to tear down a makeshift wall built from used
>>> shipping containers along the border with Mexico.
>>>
>>> Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey agreed to remove the wall as part of a
>>> lawsuit filed against him last week by the Biden administration,
>>> according to a report in The New York Times.
>>>
>>> The outgoing Republican governor issued an executive order in
>>> August telling the state’s Department of Emergency and Military
>>> Affairs to use the shipping container to plug miles of gaps on the
>>> border.
>>>
>>> The 8,800-pound containers were stacked and welded together into a
>>> 22ft high wall and covered in four feet of razor wire.
>>>
>>> The White House had argued that the wall, which has cost around
>>> $82m, was illegally built on federal land and also accused the
>>> state of damaging vegetation and seasonal streams in a national
>>> forest.
>>>
>>> Contractors have hauled the shipping containers to a popular migrant
>>> route near Yuma, Arizona, as well as a remote area of the Coronado
>>> National Forest.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> You simpleton.
>
> You trolling deep sate shill.
>
>> Those shipping containers were NOT PART OF TRUMP'S WALL.
>
> They were indeed part of our nation's patchworkborder wall, as deployed
> by Gov. Ducey of Arizona.
>
>
>> Read your own source:
>>
>> 'The outgoing Republican governor issued an executive order in August
>> telling the state’s Department of Emergency and Military Affairs to
>> use the shipping container to plug miles of gaps on the border.'
>
> That's a good thing, and as this is a national border it was Trump's
> border wall to preside over, duh.


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 by: Phil Hendry's C - Sun, 14 Apr 2024 18:14 UTC

On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 11:11:15 -0700
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

> On 2024-04-14 11:01, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
> > On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 10:48:14 -0700
> > Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2024-04-14 09:57, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
> >>> On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 09:40:54 -0700
> >>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 2024-04-13 14:39, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
> >>>>> On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 13:57:49 -0700 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 2024-04-13 11:28, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 05:52:51 -0000 (UTC) Lawrence D'Oliveiro
> >>>>>>> <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 15:37:30 -0600, Phil Hendry's Chop shop
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 12 Apr 24 21:21:33 UTC D. Ray <d@ray> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Why didn’t he deport them last time he was President?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The wall needed to be done first to keep the scurvy bastids
> >>>>>>>>> out for good!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> So what happened to that wall last time he was President?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Over 400 miles of it were built.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> False.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You're losing bigly again, turdlicker:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2022-02-07/how-much-of-president-donald-trumps-border-wall-was-built
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Before Biden stopped new construction on the wall, the Trump
> >>>>> administration had built 458 miles of what it dubbed “border
> >>>>> wall system,” according to final figures compiled by U.S.
> >>>>> Customs and Border Protection and provided to U.S. News.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The wall consists mostly of 18- to 30-foot steel bollards
> >>>>> anchored in concrete. The barriers also feature sensors,
> >>>>> lights, cameras and parallel roads in some places.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Some 226 miles, or nearly half of the total number of miles
> >>>>> built, run along the border in Arizona, including more than 100
> >>>>> miles in both the Border Patrol sector near Yuma and in the
> >>>>> sector near Tucson.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> About 100 miles were constructed in New Mexico, largely in a
> >>>>> stretch along the eastern part of the state’s border that bumps
> >>>>> into Texas near El Paso. A total of 55 miles were built in the
> >>>>> Lone Star State along the Rio Grande by El Paso and in lengths
> >>>>> by Lardeo and in the Rio Grande Valley.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> California saw the completion of construction of 77 miles of
> >>>>> wall in areas along the border near San Diego and El Centro.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 'The vast majority of the 458 miles were constructed in places
> >>>> where some kind of barrier already existed,'
> >>>
> >>> 4 strand barbed cattle wire, turdlicker.
> >>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Then Xiden tore them down, traitor.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> And false.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You lie again, turdlicker:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://www.curbed.com/2021/01/president-biden-stopped-trumps-border-wall.html
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Interesting you provide no quotes from this article, doofus.
> >>>>
> >>>> Let me fix that:
> >>>>
> >>>> 'The project shrank in scope over the years, from the end-to-end
> >>>> wall he promised in 2016 to 1,000 miles of border. In the end,
> >>>> just 450 miles of it were built, mainly along the southern border
> >>>> of California and Arizona, plus a little in Texas. Nearly all of
> >>>> it replaced existing barriers. Just 47 miles blocked previously
> >>>> unprotected parts of the border. '
> >>>
> >>> 4 strand babed wire is not "protective".
> >>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://nypost.com/2023/08/19/biden-sells-border-wall-parts-to-thwart-gop-push-to-use-them/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The Biden administration is quietly auctioning off millions
> >>>>> of dollars’ worth of unused parts from former President Trump’s
> >>>>> border wall for peanuts – in an apparent end-run around pending
> >>>>> legislation in Congress.
> >>>>
> >>>> "unused parts" means nothing was "tor[n] down", doofus.
> >>>
> >>> In actuality plenty was torn down - many containers have been
> >>> pulled back.
> >>>
> >>> But how many times will you lie so I can keep kicking your
> >>> scumsucking ass?
> >>>
> >>> https://www.kgun9.com/news/local-news/shipping-container-border-wall-removal-begins-in-cochise-county
> >>>
> >>> Posted at 6:52 PM, Jan 05, 2023 and last updated 6:52 PM, Jan 05,
> >>> 2023 COCHISE COUNTY, Ariz. (KGUN) — The shipping containers along
> >>> the Arizona-Mexico border are now officially coming down.
> >>>
> >>> One section of the makeshift border barrier stretches for about
> >>> four miles in the Coronado National Forest in Cochise County,
> >>> south and west of Sierra Vista.
> >>>
> >>> KGUN 9 got an up-close view of the progress on Thursday. Two truck
> >>> convoys were seen driving north along the forest’s winding and
> >>> bumpy dirt roads, towards Sonoita. About 15 containers were moved
> >>> out in the early afternoon.
> >>>
> >>> Meanwhile, other equipment moved containers away from the border
> >>> and staged them in an area to be picked up.
> >>>
> >>> A contract for the removal project reveals the state will pay more
> >>> than $57 million to AshBritt, a management and logistics
> >>> contractor. That contract also specifies that the containers along
> >>> this section of the border will use a “final resting location at
> >>> Tucson Jail,” with the project taking an estimated 60 days to
> >>> complete.
> >>>
> >>> https://news.yahoo.com/arizona-pulling-down-border-wall-184215012.html
> >>>
> >>> Arizona has agreed to tear down a makeshift wall built from used
> >>> shipping containers along the border with Mexico.
> >>>
> >>> Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey agreed to remove the wall as part of a
> >>> lawsuit filed against him last week by the Biden administration,
> >>> according to a report in The New York Times.
> >>>
> >>> The outgoing Republican governor issued an executive order in
> >>> August telling the state’s Department of Emergency and Military
> >>> Affairs to use the shipping container to plug miles of gaps on the
> >>> border.
> >>>
> >>> The 8,800-pound containers were stacked and welded together into a
> >>> 22ft high wall and covered in four feet of razor wire.
> >>>
> >>> The White House had argued that the wall, which has cost around
> >>> $82m, was illegally built on federal land and also accused the
> >>> state of damaging vegetation and seasonal streams in a national
> >>> forest.
> >>>
> >>> Contractors have hauled the shipping containers to a popular
> >>> migrant route near Yuma, Arizona, as well as a remote area of the
> >>> Coronado National Forest.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> You simpleton.
> >
> > You trolling deep sate shill.
> >
> >> Those shipping containers were NOT PART OF TRUMP'S WALL.
> >
> > They were indeed part of our nation's patchworkborder wall, as
> > deployed by Gov. Ducey of Arizona.
> >
> >
> >> Read your own source:
> >>
> >> 'The outgoing Republican governor issued an executive order in
> >> August telling the state’s Department of Emergency and Military
> >> Affairs to use the shipping container to plug miles of gaps on the
> >> border.'
> >
> > That's a good thing, and as this is a national border it was Trump's
> > border wall to preside over, duh.
>
> >
> > You're just tying yourself in knots like spastic colon trying to
> > find anything to deflect over.
>
>
> Your claim was that Biden was dismantling the wall that Trump had
> built:
>
> "Then Xiden tore them down, traitor"...


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 by: Lil-man-ball - Mon, 15 Apr 2024 17:46 UTC

On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 10:48:14 -0700
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

> You simpleton.

You poodle-felching serial pedofucker.

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 by: Lil-man-ball - Mon, 15 Apr 2024 17:48 UTC

On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 10:46:56 -0700
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

> To whom or what am I supposed to be a traitor, doofus?

The Creator and all sentient life basically...HTH...HAND...etc...

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 by: Alan - Mon, 15 Apr 2024 19:48 UTC

On 2024-04-14 11:14, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 11:11:15 -0700
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2024-04-14 11:01, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
>>> On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 10:48:14 -0700
>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-04-14 09:57, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 09:40:54 -0700
>>>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2024-04-13 14:39, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 13:57:49 -0700 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2024-04-13 11:28, Phil Hendry's Chop shop wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 05:52:51 -0000 (UTC) Lawrence D'Oliveiro
>>>>>>>>> <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 15:37:30 -0600, Phil Hendry's Chop shop
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 12 Apr 24 21:21:33 UTC D. Ray <d@ray> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Why didn’t he deport them last time he was President?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The wall needed to be done first to keep the scurvy bastids
>>>>>>>>>>> out for good!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So what happened to that wall last time he was President?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Over 400 miles of it were built.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> False.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're losing bigly again, turdlicker:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2022-02-07/how-much-of-president-donald-trumps-border-wall-was-built
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Before Biden stopped new construction on the wall, the Trump
>>>>>>> administration had built 458 miles of what it dubbed “border
>>>>>>> wall system,” according to final figures compiled by U.S.
>>>>>>> Customs and Border Protection and provided to U.S. News.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The wall consists mostly of 18- to 30-foot steel bollards
>>>>>>> anchored in concrete. The barriers also feature sensors,
>>>>>>> lights, cameras and parallel roads in some places.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Some 226 miles, or nearly half of the total number of miles
>>>>>>> built, run along the border in Arizona, including more than 100
>>>>>>> miles in both the Border Patrol sector near Yuma and in the
>>>>>>> sector near Tucson.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> About 100 miles were constructed in New Mexico, largely in a
>>>>>>> stretch along the eastern part of the state’s border that bumps
>>>>>>> into Texas near El Paso. A total of 55 miles were built in the
>>>>>>> Lone Star State along the Rio Grande by El Paso and in lengths
>>>>>>> by Lardeo and in the Rio Grande Valley.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> California saw the completion of construction of 77 miles of
>>>>>>> wall in areas along the border near San Diego and El Centro.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'The vast majority of the 458 miles were constructed in places
>>>>>> where some kind of barrier already existed,'
>>>>>
>>>>> 4 strand barbed cattle wire, turdlicker.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Then Xiden tore them down, traitor.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And false.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You lie again, turdlicker:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.curbed.com/2021/01/president-biden-stopped-trumps-border-wall.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Interesting you provide no quotes from this article, doofus.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let me fix that:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'The project shrank in scope over the years, from the end-to-end
>>>>>> wall he promised in 2016 to 1,000 miles of border. In the end,
>>>>>> just 450 miles of it were built, mainly along the southern border
>>>>>> of California and Arizona, plus a little in Texas. Nearly all of
>>>>>> it replaced existing barriers. Just 47 miles blocked previously
>>>>>> unprotected parts of the border. '
>>>>>
>>>>> 4 strand babed wire is not "protective".
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://nypost.com/2023/08/19/biden-sells-border-wall-parts-to-thwart-gop-push-to-use-them/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Biden administration is quietly auctioning off millions
>>>>>>> of dollars’ worth of unused parts from former President Trump’s
>>>>>>> border wall for peanuts – in an apparent end-run around pending
>>>>>>> legislation in Congress.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "unused parts" means nothing was "tor[n] down", doofus.
>>>>>
>>>>> In actuality plenty was torn down - many containers have been
>>>>> pulled back.
>>>>>
>>>>> But how many times will you lie so I can keep kicking your
>>>>> scumsucking ass?
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.kgun9.com/news/local-news/shipping-container-border-wall-removal-begins-in-cochise-county
>>>>>
>>>>> Posted at 6:52 PM, Jan 05, 2023 and last updated 6:52 PM, Jan 05,
>>>>> 2023 COCHISE COUNTY, Ariz. (KGUN) — The shipping containers along
>>>>> the Arizona-Mexico border are now officially coming down.
>>>>>
>>>>> One section of the makeshift border barrier stretches for about
>>>>> four miles in the Coronado National Forest in Cochise County,
>>>>> south and west of Sierra Vista.
>>>>>
>>>>> KGUN 9 got an up-close view of the progress on Thursday. Two truck
>>>>> convoys were seen driving north along the forest’s winding and
>>>>> bumpy dirt roads, towards Sonoita. About 15 containers were moved
>>>>> out in the early afternoon.
>>>>>
>>>>> Meanwhile, other equipment moved containers away from the border
>>>>> and staged them in an area to be picked up.
>>>>>
>>>>> A contract for the removal project reveals the state will pay more
>>>>> than $57 million to AshBritt, a management and logistics
>>>>> contractor. That contract also specifies that the containers along
>>>>> this section of the border will use a “final resting location at
>>>>> Tucson Jail,” with the project taking an estimated 60 days to
>>>>> complete.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://news.yahoo.com/arizona-pulling-down-border-wall-184215012.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Arizona has agreed to tear down a makeshift wall built from used
>>>>> shipping containers along the border with Mexico.
>>>>>
>>>>> Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey agreed to remove the wall as part of a
>>>>> lawsuit filed against him last week by the Biden administration,
>>>>> according to a report in The New York Times.
>>>>>
>>>>> The outgoing Republican governor issued an executive order in
>>>>> August telling the state’s Department of Emergency and Military
>>>>> Affairs to use the shipping container to plug miles of gaps on the
>>>>> border.
>>>>>
>>>>> The 8,800-pound containers were stacked and welded together into a
>>>>> 22ft high wall and covered in four feet of razor wire.
>>>>>
>>>>> The White House had argued that the wall, which has cost around
>>>>> $82m, was illegally built on federal land and also accused the
>>>>> state of damaging vegetation and seasonal streams in a national
>>>>> forest.
>>>>>
>>>>> Contractors have hauled the shipping containers to a popular
>>>>> migrant route near Yuma, Arizona, as well as a remote area of the
>>>>> Coronado National Forest.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You simpleton.
>>>
>>> You trolling deep sate shill.
>>>
>>>> Those shipping containers were NOT PART OF TRUMP'S WALL.
>>>
>>> They were indeed part of our nation's patchworkborder wall, as
>>> deployed by Gov. Ducey of Arizona.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Read your own source:
>>>>
>>>> 'The outgoing Republican governor issued an executive order in
>>>> August telling the state’s Department of Emergency and Military
>>>> Affairs to use the shipping container to plug miles of gaps on the
>>>> border.'
>>>
>>> That's a good thing, and as this is a national border it was Trump's
>>> border wall to preside over, duh.
>>
>>>
>>> You're just tying yourself in knots like spastic colon trying to
>>> find anything to deflect over.
>>
>>
>> Your claim was that Biden was dismantling the wall that Trump had
>> built:
>>
>> "Then Xiden tore them down, traitor"...
>
> So true:
>
> https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/after-federal-face-off-arizona-to-remove-shipping-container-wall-from-mexico-border
>
> PHOENIX (AP) — Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey will take down a makeshift wall made of shipping containers at the Mexico border, settling a lawsuit and political tussle with the U.S. government over trespassing on federal lands.
>
> The Biden administration and the Republican governor entered into an agreement that Arizona will cease installing the containers in any national forest, according to court documents filed Wednesday in U.S. District Court in Phoenix.
>
>
> The agreement also calls for Arizona to remove the containers that were already installed in the remote San Rafael Valley, in southeastern Cochise County, by Jan. 4 without damaging any natural resources. State agencies will have to consult with U.S. Forest Service representatives.
>
> The resolution comes two weeks before Democrat Katie Hobbs, who opposes the construction, takes over as governor.
>
> The federal government filed a lawsuit last week against Ducey’s
> administration on behalf of the Bureau of Reclamation, the Department
> of Agriculture and the Forest Service.
>
>
>> ...where "them" refers to "Over 400 miles of it were built."...
>
> If it did I'd have said so, that's your obfuscation, not mine.
>
>> ...where "it" refers to Trump's wall.
>>
>> This is not that.
>
>
> That's what happens when you try and redefine terms for others, you
> deceitful little shitbag.
>
>


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