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* De Facto publishing.Peter Jason
+* Re: De Facto publishing.Rod Speed
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| `* Re: De Facto publishing.Rod Speed
|  `* Re: De Facto publishing.Daniel65
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`* Re: De Facto publishing.Ozix
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De Facto publishing.

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Subject: De Facto publishing.
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 by: Peter Jason - Sat, 6 Apr 2024 03:18 UTC

Would publishing on uTube carry the same weight as on Scientific
Journals, like Jstor?

That is, could any discovery reported on uTube rank above the
equivalents on all other Journals?

Re: De Facto publishing.

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From: rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com (Rod Speed)
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Subject: Re: De Facto publishing.
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 by: Rod Speed - Sat, 6 Apr 2024 08:57 UTC

Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

> Would publishing on uTube carry the sameweight as on Scientific
> Journals, like Jstor?

Corse not given that there has been no peer review.

> That is, could any discovery reported on uTuberank above the
> equivalents on all other Journals?

Corse not given that there has been no peer review.

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 by: Ozix - Sat, 6 Apr 2024 11:03 UTC

Peter Jason wrote:
> Would publishing on uTube carry the same weight as on Scientific
> Journals, like Jstor?
>
> That is, could any discovery reported on uTube rank above the
> equivalents on all other Journals?
>

Nah. Consider for example the back-propagation algorithm, that made
neural networks possible. It was discovered by half a dozen different
researchers, but the trio who got published in prestige journal Nature
got all the credit.

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 by: Peter Jason - Sun, 7 Apr 2024 21:02 UTC

On Sat, 06 Apr 2024 19:57:38 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>
>> Would publishing on uTube carry the sameweight as on Scientific
>> Journals, like Jstor?
>
>Corse not given that there has been no peer review.

The peers can review it all they like!

>> That is, could any discovery reported on uTuberank above the
>> equivalents on all other Journals?
>
>Corse not given that there has been no peer review.

Are not all uTube subscribers "peers"?

Re: De Facto publishing.

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 by: Peter Jason - Sun, 7 Apr 2024 21:03 UTC

On Sat, 6 Apr 2024 19:03:00 +0800, Ozix <ozix@xizo.am> wrote:

>Peter Jason wrote:
>> Would publishing on uTube carry the same weight as on Scientific
>> Journals, like Jstor?
>>
>> That is, could any discovery reported on uTube rank above the
>> equivalents on all other Journals?
>>
>
>Nah. Consider for example the back-propagation algorithm, that made
>neural networks possible. It was discovered by half a dozen different
>researchers, but the trio who got published in prestige journal Nature
>got all the credit.

Well, that's just alarming! Papers are not like patents, I suppose?

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From: rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com (Rod Speed)
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 by: Rod Speed - Sun, 7 Apr 2024 23:12 UTC

On Mon, 08 Apr 2024 07:02:36 +1000, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 06 Apr 2024 19:57:38 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>
>>> Would publishing on uTube carry the sameweight as on Scientific
>>> Journals, like Jstor?
>>
>> Corse not given that there has been no peer review.
>
> The peers can review it all they like!
>
>>> That is, could any discovery reported on uTuberank above the
>>> equivalents on all other Journals?
>>
>> Corse not given that there has been no peer review.
>
> Are not all uTube subscribers "peers"?

Not the sense that that term is used with peer reviewed scientific journals

Re: De Facto publishing.

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From: daniel47@nomail.afraid.org (Daniel65)
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 by: Daniel65 - Mon, 8 Apr 2024 09:04 UTC

Rod Speed wrote on 8/4/24 9:12 am:
> On Mon, 08 Apr 2024 07:02:36 +1000, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com>
> wrote:
>> On Sat, 06 Apr 2024 19:57:38 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>
>>>> Would publishing on uTube carry the sameweight as on
>>>> Scientific Journals, like Jstor?
>>>
>>> Corse not given that there has been no peer review.
>>
>> The peers can review it all they like!
>>
>>>> That is, could any discovery reported on uTuberank above the
>>>> equivalents on all other Journals?
>>>
>>> Corse not given that there has been no peer review.
>>
>> Are not all uTube subscribers "peers"?
>
> Not the sense that that term is used with peer reviewed scientific
> journals

"scientific journals" are 'peer reviewed' by peers, i.e. Scientists ....
so couldn't e.g. Politicians writings be 'peer reviewed' by politicians??
--
Daniel

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 by: Rod Speed - Mon, 8 Apr 2024 09:16 UTC

On Mon, 08 Apr 2024 19:04:28 +1000, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org>
wrote:

> Rod Speed wrote on 8/4/24 9:12 am:
>> On Mon, 08 Apr 2024 07:02:36 +1000, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com>
>> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 06 Apr 2024 19:57:38 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>
>>>>> Would publishing on uTube carry the sameweight as on
>>>>> Scientific Journals, like Jstor?
>>>> Corse not given that there has been no peer review.
>>> The peers can review it all they like!
>>>
>>>>> That is, could any discovery reported on uTuberank above the
>>>>> equivalents on all other Journals?
>>>> Corse not given that there has been no peer review.
>>> Are not all uTube subscribers "peers"?

>> Not the sense that that term is used with peer reviewed scientific
>> journals

> "scientific journals" are 'peer reviewed' by peers, i.e. Scientists ....

Irrelevant to youtube and youtube doesnt even let 'peers' decide what can
be published.

> so couldn't e.g. Politicians writings be 'peer reviewed' by politicians??

Corse not when they are political enemys

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