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* It should be legal to shoot anyone operating a motor vehicle in autopilot mode.Harry Humboldt
+* Re: It should be legal to shoot anyone operating a motor vehicle in autopilot moRod Speed
|+* Re: It should be legal to shoot anyone operating a motor vehicle in autopilot moPetzl
||+* Re: It should be legal to shoot anyone operating a motor vehicle in autopilot moRod Speed
|||`* Re: It should be legal to shoot anyone operating a motor vehicle in autopilot moPetzl
||| `- Re: It should be legal to shoot anyone operating a motor vehicle in autopilot moRod Speed
||+* Re: It should be legal to shoot anyone operating a motor vehicle in autopilot moBenny
|||`- Re: It should be legal to shoot anyone operating a motor vehicle in autopilot moPetzl
||`- Re: It should be legal to shoot anyone operating a motor vehicle in autopilot moGovernor Swill
|`* Re: It should be legal to shoot anyone operating a motor vehicle in autopilot moPeter Jason
| `- Re: It should be legal to shoot anyone operating a motor vehicle in autopilot moRod Speed
`- Re: It should be legal to shoot anyone operating a motor vehicle in autopilot moGovernor Swill

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 by: Harry Humboldt - Mon, 4 Mar 2024 08:38 UTC

Tesla, Cadillac, GMC drivers are all risking the lives of others
by playing with phones and tablets as their vehicle travels
public roads.

They do not have their hands on the steering wheel and they are
not in control of their vehicle.

These people should be shot and left to rot on the side of the
road.

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 by: Rod Speed - Mon, 4 Mar 2024 09:16 UTC

Harry Humboldt <hh@email.me> wrote

It is legal to shoot you.

> Tesla, Cadillac, GMC drivers are all risking
the > lives of others by playing with phones and
> tablets as their vehicle travels public roads.

Not when the autopilot is smarter than the driver.

Its been like that with aircraft for decades now.

> They do not have their hands on the steering wheeland they are not in
> control of their vehicle.

Dont need to be when the autopilot is smarter than the driver.

> These people should be shot andleft to rot on the side of the road.

That's what we do with luddites like you.

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 by: Petzl - Mon, 4 Mar 2024 20:44 UTC

On Mon, 04 Mar 2024 20:16:25 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Harry Humboldt <hh@email.me> wrote
>
>It is legal to shoot you.
>
>> Tesla, Cadillac, GMC drivers are all risking
>the > lives of others by playing with phones and
>> tablets as their vehicle travels public roads.
>
>Not when the autopilot is smarter than the driver.
>
>Its been like that with aircraft for decades now.
>
>> They do not have their hands on the steering wheeland they are not in
>> control of their vehicle.
>
>Dont need to be when the autopilot is smarter than the driver.
>
>> These people should be shot andleft to rot on the side of the road.
>
>That's what we do with luddites like you.
>
Also the Auto pilot is still smarter than the driver.
All accidents I have seen were caused by another person.
Last one was a uber electric Volvo driver hitting a person who wheel a
bike in front of the auto piloted car without looking.
That person wpould of been hit by any unfortunate actual driver.
--
Petzl
The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other
people's money.

On March fourteenth, in the year of our Lord. Eighteen eighty three
Karl Marx made his most important contribution to mankind...
He died

There is no difference between communism and socialism,
except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end:
communism proposes to enslave men by force,
socialism - by vote.
It is merely the difference between murder and suicide
#Margaret Thatcher

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 by: Rod Speed - Mon, 4 Mar 2024 21:02 UTC

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Harry Humboldt <hh@email.me> wrote

>> It is legal to shoot you.

>>> Tesla, Cadillac, GMC drivers are all risking
>>> the lives of others by playing with phones and
>>> tablets as their vehicle travels public roads.

>> Not when the autopilot is smarter than the driver.

>> Its been like that with aircraft for decades now.

>>> They do not have their hands on the steering wheel
>>> and they are not in control of their vehicle.

>> Dont need to be when the autopilot is smarter than the driver.

>>> These people should be shot andleft to rot on the side of the road.

>> That's what we do with luddites like you.

> Also the Auto pilot is still smarter than the driver.

And doesnt ever doze off either.

> All accidents I have seen were caused by another person.

Not all, most obviously with motorbikes and
when you have a blowout or a wheel coming off.

> Last one was a uber electric Volvo driver hitting a personwho wheel a
> bike in front of the auto piloted car without looking.
> That person wpould of been hit by any unfortunate actual driver.

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 by: Petzl - Mon, 4 Mar 2024 21:19 UTC

On Tue, 05 Mar 2024 08:02:56 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Harry Humboldt <hh@email.me> wrote
>
>>> It is legal to shoot you.
>
>>>> Tesla, Cadillac, GMC drivers are all risking
>>>> the lives of others by playing with phones and
>>>> tablets as their vehicle travels public roads.
>
>>> Not when the autopilot is smarter than the driver.
>
>>> Its been like that with aircraft for decades now.
>
>>>> They do not have their hands on the steering wheel
>>>> and they are not in control of their vehicle.
>
>>> Dont need to be when the autopilot is smarter than the driver.
>
>>>> These people should be shot andleft to rot on the side of the road.
>
>>> That's what we do with luddites like you.
>
>> Also the Auto pilot is still smarter than the driver.
>
>And doesnt ever doze off either.
>
>> All accidents I have seen were caused by another person.
>
>Not all, most obviously with motorbikes and
>when you have a blowout or a wheel coming off.
>
Motorbikes are aptly named suicide jockeys long before autopilot cars.
Not heard of a wheel coming off a electric car, let alone on
autopilot.
Ehe upmarket ones would detect that and stop?
>
>> Last one was a uber electric Volvo driver hitting a personwho wheel a
>> bike in front of the auto piloted car without looking.
>> That person wpould of been hit by any unfortunate actual driver.
--
Petzl
The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other
people's money.

On March fourteenth, in the year of our Lord. Eighteen eighty three
Karl Marx made his most important contribution to mankind...
He died

There is no difference between communism and socialism,
except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end:
communism proposes to enslave men by force,
socialism - by vote.
It is merely the difference between murder and suicide
#Margaret Thatcher

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 by: Rod Speed - Mon, 4 Mar 2024 21:48 UTC

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Harry Humboldt <hh@email.me> wrote

>>>> It is legal to shoot you.

>>>>> Tesla, Cadillac, GMC drivers are all risking
>>>>> the lives of others by playing with phones and
>>>>> tablets as their vehicle travels public roads.

>>>> Not when the autopilot is smarter than the driver.

>>>> Its been like that with aircraft for decades now.

>>>>> They do not have their hands on the steering wheel
>>>>> and they are not in control of their vehicle.

>>>> Dont need to be when the autopilot is smarter than the driver.

>>>>> These people should be shot andleft to rot on the side of the road.

>>>> That's what we do with luddites like you.

>>> Also the Auto pilot is still smarter than the driver.

>> And doesnt ever doze off either.

>>> All accidents I have seen were caused by another person.

>> Not all, most obviously with motorbikes and
>> when you have a blowout or a wheel coming off.

> Motorbikes are aptly named suicide jockeys long before autopilot cars.

I was commenting on what causes accidents.

> Not heard of a wheel coming off a electric car,

Doesn't matter what vehicle it comes off when its the cause of the
accident.

> let alone on autopilot.

Ditto.

> Ehe upmarket ones would detect that and stop?

But the wheel carreering down the road at speed
may well cause an accident, not the other driver.

>>> Last one was a uber electric Volvo driver hitting a personwho wheel a
>>> bike in front of the auto piloted car without looking.

>>> That person wpould of been hit by any unfortunate actual driver.

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On 04 Mar 2024, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> posted some
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> On Mon, 04 Mar 2024 20:16:25 +1100, "Rod Speed"
><rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Harry Humboldt <hh@email.me> wrote
>>
>>It is legal to shoot you.
>>
>>> Tesla, Cadillac, GMC drivers are all risking
>>the > lives of others by playing with phones and
>>> tablets as their vehicle travels public roads.
>>
>>Not when the autopilot is smarter than the driver.
>>
>>Its been like that with aircraft for decades now.
>>
>>> They do not have their hands on the steering wheeland they are not
>>> in control of their vehicle.
>>
>>Dont need to be when the autopilot is smarter than the driver.
>>
>>> These people should be shot andleft to rot on the side of the road.
>>
>>That's what we do with luddites like you.
>>
> Also the Auto pilot is still smarter than the driver.

On what planet?

> All accidents I have seen were caused by another person.

You're blind in one eye and can't see out the other.

> Last one was a uber electric Volvo driver hitting a person who wheel a
> bike in front of the auto piloted car without looking.
> That person wpould of been hit by any unfortunate actual driver.

One stupid progressive city in the land of fruits and nuts.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/projects/2023/self-driving-car-crashes/

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 by: Petzl - Mon, 4 Mar 2024 23:02 UTC

On Mon, 4 Mar 2024 22:25:08 -0000 (UTC), Benny <bennym@live.com>
wrote:

>On 04 Mar 2024, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> posted some
>news:89ccuil13blkr4jtsdrdtjmt902s8dl0o8@4ax.com:
>
>> On Mon, 04 Mar 2024 20:16:25 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>><rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Harry Humboldt <hh@email.me> wrote
>>>
>>>It is legal to shoot you.
>>>
>>>> Tesla, Cadillac, GMC drivers are all risking
>>>the > lives of others by playing with phones and
>>>> tablets as their vehicle travels public roads.
>>>
>>>Not when the autopilot is smarter than the driver.
>>>
>>>Its been like that with aircraft for decades now.
>>>
>>>> They do not have their hands on the steering wheeland they are not
>>>> in control of their vehicle.
>>>
>>>Dont need to be when the autopilot is smarter than the driver.
>>>
>>>> These people should be shot andleft to rot on the side of the road.
>>>
>>>That's what we do with luddites like you.
>>>
>> Also the Auto pilot is still smarter than the driver.
>
>On what planet?
>
Well not yours
>
>> All accidents I have seen were caused by another person.
>
>You're blind in one eye and can't see out the other.
>
Should of said read about, Electric cars in Sydney not that common
>
>> Last one was a uber electric Volvo driver hitting a person who wheel a
>> bike in front of the auto piloted car without looking.
>> That person wpould of been hit by any unfortunate actual driver.
>
>One stupid progressive city in the land of fruits and nuts.
>
>https://www.sfchronicle.com/projects/2023/self-driving-car-crashes/
>
You are referring to San Francisco media, where pot is legal.
Insurance fraud, and ambulance chasers have taken over.
--
Petzl
Barack Obama once warned not to underestimate
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Trump was never running against Biden.
He was running against voter fraud.
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Fraudulent Election Maneuvers and Steal Elections in Perpetuity

The left loathes Trump so much it totally blinds them
to anything he says, even when what he says
could potentially save thousands of lives.

Amazing where in America a lifetime of corruption, gutless, lying, thieving,
fraud, cheating, Propagandist' and 'Bigot will take you in politics?
https://youtu.be/D1j0FS0Z6ho
Joe Biden's son, zero track record, for jobs in languages
he don't speak thrown out of navy for doing coke,
turned in a rental car with crack pipes in it,
hid from a process server for getting a girl pregnant
to avoid child support.
And now he's a high paid artist with no discernible talent.

Five days with dad on Chinese trip was paid US$1.5 billion dollars?
Corruption by proxy,a new corruption that is difficult to detect

Joe Biden had a little boy
his nose was white with snow
And everywhere Joe Biden went
his son was sure to go
He followed to Ukraine one day
and scored a lot of dough
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 by: Peter Jason - Mon, 4 Mar 2024 23:24 UTC

On Mon, 04 Mar 2024 20:16:25 +1100, "Rod Speed"

There's one person here who should be shot anyway.

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 by: Rod Speed - Tue, 5 Mar 2024 01:51 UTC

Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

> There's one person here who should be shot anyway.

Yep, you, byeee

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 by: Governor Swill - Tue, 5 Mar 2024 03:47 UTC

On Mon, 4 Mar 2024 09:38:59 +0100 (CET), "Harry Humboldt" <hh@email.me> wrote:

>Tesla, Cadillac, GMC drivers are all risking the lives of others
>by playing with phones and tablets as their vehicle travels
>public roads.
>
>They do not have their hands on the steering wheel and they are
>not in control of their vehicle.
>
>These people should be shot and left to rot on the side of the
>road.

The only thing conservatives fear more than change is technology - because it brings
change.

Swill
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 by: Governor Swill - Tue, 5 Mar 2024 04:50 UTC

On Tue, 05 Mar 2024 07:44:05 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

>Also the Auto pilot is still smarter than the driver.
>All accidents I have seen were caused by another person.
>Last one was a uber electric Volvo driver hitting a person who wheel a
>bike in front of the auto piloted car without looking.
>That person wpould of been hit by any unfortunate actual driver.

I recently watched a YouTube video of a city bus turning short and cutting the corner off
an AV that was parked at the curb.

AVs are safer than human driven cars.

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