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* Why Fighting Continues In “Already-Cleared” Areas Of GazaLawrence D'Oliveiro
`* Re: Why Fighting Continues In “Already-Cleared” Areas Of GazaRod Speed
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 `* Re: Why Fighting Continues In “Already-Cleared Areas Of GazaLawrence D'Oliveiro
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Why Fighting Continues In “Already-Cleared” Areas Of Gaza

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From: ldo@nz.invalid (Lawrence D'Oliveiro)
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Subject: Why Fighting Continues In “Already-Cleared”
Areas Of Gaza
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 by: Lawrence D'Oliv - Tue, 27 Feb 2024 01:36 UTC

You know how Tzahal keeps claiming that they have “taken control” of
some part of Gaza, only for fighting to resume there again, until they
claim they have “taken control” of it again? And then the fighting
starts over?

No, it doesn’t make sense. Netanyahu’s Government is good at
massacring civilians, not so good at actually achieving any military
objectives. From
<https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/2/24/israels-war-on-gaza-live-unrwa-no-longer-functional-in-north-gaza>,
here is an attempt by an Israeli army chief to explain why they have
to keep fighting in areas they “control”:

Herzi Halevi ... spoke in vague terms about why intense clashes
continue in northern and central Gaza, areas that Israel’s
military swept through in earlier days of the war during ground
operations.

“There are areas we have already been to, and we are returning
with better intelligence and making an achievement that is much
higher and much deeper, literally, even into the ground, as well
in hitting the enemy,” he said in a video address.

“There are places we passed through at a very high rate of combat,
and we are returning to places to purify space at a very, very
high level. These things bring another level of operatives,
another level of commanders, more destruction of infrastructure.”

Clear as mud? “Purify at a very, very high level ... returning with
better intelligence and making an achievement that is much higher and
much deeper”. As if they already “achieved” something when they first
went in and destroyed those areas, that they have to come back and
destroy them some more.

It was clear from the beginning that Netanyahu will not be the one to
lead Israel to any kind of military “victory” in Gaza. I see that the
protests by his own citizens against his conduct of the war are
getting more frequent and harder to suppress.

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 by: Rod Speed - Tue, 27 Feb 2024 03:14 UTC

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote

> You know how Tzahal keeps claiming that they have “taken control” of
> some part of Gaza, only for fighting to resume there again, until they
> claim they have “taken control” of it again? And then the fighting
> starts over?

Nope.

> No, it doesn’t make sense. Netanyahu’s Government is good at
> massacring civilians, not so good at actually achieving any military
> objectives.

BULLSHIT.

> From
> <https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/2/24/israels-war-on-gaza-live-unrwa-no-longer-functional-in-north-gaza>,
> here is an attempt by an Israeli army chief to explain why they have
> to keep fighting in areas they “control”:

Nope, controlling an area isnt the same thing as killing all the Hamas
there.

> Herzi Halevi ... spoke in vague terms about why intense clashes
> continue in northern and central Gaza, areas that Israel’s
> military swept through in earlier days of the war during ground
> operations.

> “There are areas we have already been to, and we are returning
> with better intelligence and making an achievement that is much
> higher and much deeper, literally, even into the ground, as well
> in hitting the enemy,” he said in a video address.

Nothing wrong with that.

> “There are places we passed through at a very high rate of combat,
> and we are returning to places to purify space at a very, very
> high level. These things bring another level of operatives,
> another level of commanders, more destruction of infrastructure.”

Or that either.

> Clear as mud? “Purify at a very, very high level ...

Killing Hamas, stupid.

> returning with better intelligence

Should be obvious

> and making an achievement that ismuch higher and much deeper”..

Should be obvious even to someone as stupid as you.

> As if they already “achieved” something when they first went in

Corse they did. Lots of dead Palestinians.

> and destroyed those areas,

Never happened.

> that they have to come back and destroy them some more.

Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.

> It was clear from the beginning that Netanyahu will not be theone to
> lead Israel to any kind of military “victory” in Gaza.

We'll see...

> I see that the protests by his own citizens against his conductof the
> war are getting more frequent and harder to suppress.

Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.

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 by: Lawrence D'Oliv - Thu, 29 Feb 2024 23:54 UTC

On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 14:14:45 +1100, Rod Speed wrote:

> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote
>
>> Netanyahu’s Government is good at
>> massacring civilians, not so good at actually achieving any military
>> objectives.
>
> BULLSHIT.

Over 30,000 dead so far, and counting.

> Nope, controlling an area isnt the same thing as killing all the Hamas
> there.

So what are they “controlling”, then, if they are letting some of those
attacking them live?

>> Clear as mud? “Purify at a very, very high level ...
>
> Killing Hamas, stupid.

But you just said they were letting some live.

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 by: Rod Speed - Fri, 1 Mar 2024 09:06 UTC

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote

>>> Netanyahu’s Government is good at
>>> massacring civilians, not so good atactually achieving any military
>>> objectives.

>> BULLSHIT.

> Over 30,000 dead so far, and counting.

That's the Hamas CLAIM, fuckwit.

And that's a tiny subset of those in Gaza, fuckwit.

>> Nope, controlling an area isnt the samething as killing all the Hamas
>> there.

> So what are they “controlling”, then, if theyare letting some of those
> attacking them live?

Even a terminal fuckwit such as yourself should have
noticed that Hamas hasnt done another Oct 7, fuckwit.

>>> Clear as mud? “Purify at a very, very high level ...

>> Killing Hamas, stupid.

> But you just said they were letting some live.

I never said anything of the sort, Pinocchio.

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