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| ||||| | `* alveyNoddy
| ||||| |  +- alveyKeithr0
| ||||| |  `- alveyClocky
| ||||| `* alveyalvey
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| || | `- alveyalvey
| || `- alveyXeno
| |`* alveyNoddy
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| | ||          |  || `* alveyNoddy
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From: meow@pussy.com (Mighty Mouse)
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 by: Mighty Mouse - Fri, 10 Nov 2023 08:29 UTC

https://tinyurl.com/btmes84z

I hope you were one of the lucky ones after having spent all night on
the pavement..

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From: notgonna@happen.com (Clocky)
Newsgroups: aus.cars
Subject: Re: alvey
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 by: Clocky - Fri, 10 Nov 2023 11:22 UTC

On 10/11/2023 4:29 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>
> https://tinyurl.com/btmes84z
>
> I hope you were one of the lucky ones after having spent all night on
> the pavement..
>

lol... or is this one of those Apple tricks where they pay people to
line up to as a marketing tool.

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"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

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Subject: Re: alvey
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 by: Trevor Wilson - Fri, 10 Nov 2023 23:46 UTC

On 10/11/2023 10:22 pm, Clocky wrote:
> On 10/11/2023 4:29 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>
>> https://tinyurl.com/btmes84z
>>
>> I hope you were one of the lucky ones after having spent all night on
>> the pavement..
>>
>
>
> lol... or is this one of those Apple tricks where they pay people to
> line up to as a marketing tool.
>

**Does Apple do that? Hardly surprising. Apple owners are just children.
Stupid ones at that. Almost every other brand offers better value for
money. It's always been that way.

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From: meow@pussy.com (Mighty Mouse)
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 by: Mighty Mouse - Sat, 11 Nov 2023 01:21 UTC

Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 10/11/2023 10:22 pm, Clocky wrote:
>> On 10/11/2023 4:29 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>
>>> https://tinyurl.com/btmes84z
>>>
>>> I hope you were one of the lucky ones after having spent all night
>>> on the pavement..
>>>
>>
>>
>> lol... or is this one of those Apple tricks where they pay people to
>> line up to as a marketing tool.
>>
>
> **Does Apple do that? Hardly surprising. Apple owners are just
> children. Stupid ones at that. Almost every other brand offers better
> value for money. It's always been that way.
>

non-techno ppl with money buy Apple stuff

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threat that Islam poses to human dignity and freedom

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From: xenolith@optusnet.com.au (Xeno)
Newsgroups: aus.cars
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 by: Xeno - Sat, 11 Nov 2023 01:40 UTC

On 11/11/2023 12:21 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 10/11/2023 10:22 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 10/11/2023 4:29 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>
>>>> https://tinyurl.com/btmes84z
>>>>
>>>> I hope you were one of the lucky ones after having spent all night
>>>> on the pavement..
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> lol... or is this one of those Apple tricks where they pay people to
>>> line up to as a marketing tool.
>>>
>>
>> **Does Apple do that? Hardly surprising. Apple owners are just
>> children. Stupid ones at that. Almost every other brand offers better
>> value for money. It's always been that way.
>>
>
> non-techno ppl with money buy Apple stuff
>
And techno ppl who just want their tech stuff to work.

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Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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 by: Noddy - Sat, 11 Nov 2023 02:53 UTC

On 11/11/2023 10:46 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 10/11/2023 10:22 pm, Clocky wrote:
>> On 10/11/2023 4:29 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>
>>> https://tinyurl.com/btmes84z
>>>
>>> I hope you were one of the lucky ones after having spent all night on
>>> the pavement..
>>>
>>
>>
>> lol... or is this one of those Apple tricks where they pay people to
>> line up to as a marketing tool.
>>
>
> **Does Apple do that? Hardly surprising. Apple owners are just children.
> Stupid ones at that. Almost every other brand offers better value for
> money. It's always been that way.

Just like Toyota for example :)

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 by: Noddy - Sat, 11 Nov 2023 02:58 UTC

On 11/11/2023 12:21 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:

>> **Does Apple do that? Hardly surprising. Apple owners are just
>> children. Stupid ones at that. Almost every other brand offers better
>> value for money. It's always been that way.
>>
>
> non-techno ppl with money buy Apple stuff

How would you know Felix? How many "non-tecno people with money" do you
know?

I can't speak for what the bulk of other individuals do and why, but I
know a couple of people with Iphones who I would consider to be both
"non tecno" and "without money", but they buy them anyway because they
*like* them.

I can also tell you that the Victorian public service uses Iphones
almost exclusively for no reason other than standardisation.

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 by: Mighty Mouse - Sat, 11 Nov 2023 03:13 UTC

Noddy wrote:
> On 11/11/2023 12:21 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>
>>> **Does Apple do that? Hardly surprising. Apple owners are just
>>> children. Stupid ones at that. Almost every other brand offers
>>> better value for money. It's always been that way.
>>>
>>
>> non-techno ppl with money buy Apple stuff
>
> How would you know Felix? How many "non-tecno people with money" do
> you know?

a few actually

>
> I can't speak for what the bulk of other individuals do and why, but I
> know a couple of people with Iphones who I would consider to be both
> "non tecno" and "without money", but they buy them anyway because they
> *like* them.

of course ppl buy what they like, but many ppl don't see the value in
iPhones and other istuff and consider them a waste of money, and others
simply can't afford them

>
> I can also tell you that the Victorian public service uses Iphones
> almost exclusively for no reason other than standardisation.
>

--
Have a nice day!.. except noddy

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
a non-political, fact-based site which examines the ideological
threat that Islam poses to human dignity and freedom

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 by: Mighty Mouse - Sat, 11 Nov 2023 03:15 UTC

Xeno wrote:
> On 11/11/2023 12:21 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 10/11/2023 10:22 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 10/11/2023 4:29 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/btmes84z
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope you were one of the lucky ones after having spent all night
>>>>> on the pavement..
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> lol... or is this one of those Apple tricks where they pay people
>>>> to line up to as a marketing tool.
>>>>
>>>
>>> **Does Apple do that? Hardly surprising. Apple owners are just
>>> children. Stupid ones at that. Almost every other brand offers
>>> better value for money. It's always been that way.
>>>
>>
>> non-techno ppl with money buy Apple stuff
>>
> And techno ppl who just want their tech stuff to work.
>

is there any evidence that Apple stuff is more reliable than PC and
Android products? but the really important question is.. did Alvey get
his Tay-Tay tickets??  :)

--
Have a nice day!.. except noddy

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
a non-political, fact-based site which examines the ideological
threat that Islam poses to human dignity and freedom

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 by: Clocky - Sat, 11 Nov 2023 03:28 UTC

On 11/11/2023 9:40 am, Xeno wrote:
> On 11/11/2023 12:21 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 10/11/2023 10:22 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 10/11/2023 4:29 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/btmes84z
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope you were one of the lucky ones after having spent all night
>>>>> on the pavement..
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> lol... or is this one of those Apple tricks where they pay people to
>>>> line up to as a marketing tool.
>>>>
>>>
>>> **Does Apple do that? Hardly surprising. Apple owners are just
>>> children. Stupid ones at that. Almost every other brand offers better
>>> value for money. It's always been that way.
>>>
>>
>> non-techno ppl with money buy Apple stuff
>>
> And techno ppl who just want their tech stuff to work.
>

A fallacious argument. Apple sheeple are locked in to a closed system
where they get to like what they served, don't ask questions and don't
have any other options.

--
In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

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 by: Clocky - Sat, 11 Nov 2023 03:30 UTC

On 11/11/2023 11:15 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> Xeno wrote:
>> On 11/11/2023 12:21 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>> On 10/11/2023 10:22 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>> On 10/11/2023 4:29 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/btmes84z
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hope you were one of the lucky ones after having spent all night
>>>>>> on the pavement..
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> lol... or is this one of those Apple tricks where they pay people
>>>>> to line up to as a marketing tool.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> **Does Apple do that? Hardly surprising. Apple owners are just
>>>> children. Stupid ones at that. Almost every other brand offers
>>>> better value for money. It's always been that way.
>>>>
>>>
>>> non-techno ppl with money buy Apple stuff
>>>
>> And techno ppl who just want their tech stuff to work.
>>
>
> is there any evidence that Apple stuff is more reliable than PC and
> Android products?

Nope, far from it and Apple also fight against a customers right to
repair which in itself is enough reason to never go anywhere crApple
products.

but the really important question is.. did Alvey get
> his Tay-Tay tickets??  :)
>

--
In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

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 by: Clocky - Sat, 11 Nov 2023 03:33 UTC

On 11/11/2023 11:13 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> Noddy wrote:
>> On 11/11/2023 12:21 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>
>>>> **Does Apple do that? Hardly surprising. Apple owners are just
>>>> children. Stupid ones at that. Almost every other brand offers
>>>> better value for money. It's always been that way.
>>>>
>>>
>>> non-techno ppl with money buy Apple stuff
>>
>> How would you know Felix? How many "non-tecno people with money" do
>> you know?
>
> a few actually
>

Me too. Quite a few.

>>
>> I can't speak for what the bulk of other individuals do and why, but I
>> know a couple of people with Iphones who I would consider to be both
>> "non tecno" and "without money", but they buy them anyway because they
>> *like* them.
>
> of course ppl buy what they like, but many ppl don't see the value in
> iPhones and other istuff and consider them a waste of money, and others
> simply can't afford them
>
>>
>> I can also tell you that the Victorian public service uses Iphones
>> almost exclusively for no reason other than standardisation.
>>

Get real, they're just brainless droids.

--
In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

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 by: Mighty Mouse - Sat, 11 Nov 2023 03:45 UTC

Clocky wrote:
> On 11/11/2023 9:40 am, Xeno wrote:
>> On 11/11/2023 12:21 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>> On 10/11/2023 10:22 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>> On 10/11/2023 4:29 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/btmes84z
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hope you were one of the lucky ones after having spent all
>>>>>> night on the pavement..
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> lol... or is this one of those Apple tricks where they pay people
>>>>> to line up to as a marketing tool.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> **Does Apple do that? Hardly surprising. Apple owners are just
>>>> children. Stupid ones at that. Almost every other brand offers
>>>> better value for money. It's always been that way.
>>>>
>>>
>>> non-techno ppl with money buy Apple stuff
>>>
>> And techno ppl who just want their tech stuff to work.
>>
>
>
> A fallacious argument. Apple sheeple are locked in to a closed system
> where they get to like what they served, don't ask questions and don't
> have any other options.
>
>
>

yep. but there's nothing wrong with ppl buying Apple stuff because they
like it, of course. and especially for the ease of use.

--
Have a nice day!.. except noddy

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
a non-political, fact-based site which examines the ideological
threat that Islam poses to human dignity and freedom

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 by: Noddy - Sat, 11 Nov 2023 04:17 UTC

On 11/11/2023 2:13 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> Noddy wrote:

>>> non-techno ppl with money buy Apple stuff
>>
>> How would you know Felix? How many "non-tecno people with money" do
>> you know?
>
> a few actually

Really? Lucky you. Not sure how that would allow you to speak for the
majority though which was what you seemed to be doing....

>> I can't speak for what the bulk of other individuals do and why, but I
>> know a couple of people with Iphones who I would consider to be both
>> "non tecno" and "without money", but they buy them anyway because they
>> *like* them.
>
> of course ppl buy what they like, but many ppl don't see the value in
> iPhones and other istuff and consider them a waste of money, and others
> simply can't afford them

I don't know about other "Istuff" (which is a pretty good term actually
:), but the phone market is reasonably competitive. Iphones are pretty
expensive, but it's not like all of the competing Android stuff is
shitloads cheaper. For example, a current Iphone 15 Pro Max 512gb is
$2549 outright from JB, whereas a Samsung S23 Ultra 512gb is $2249 from
the same place. Yes, the Samsung is cheaper, but not by a hell of a lot
and *both* of them are massively over priced in my opinion.

Both of them also sell just about as fast as Apple and Samsung can make
them, and if you find yourself in that kind of position where people are
prepared to throw whatever money you want at you to buy your Ishit as
soon as you release it then why would you price it at anything other
than "stupid"?

There is a reason why Apple and Microsoft are the two wealthiest
companies on the planet, and that generally is because a hell of a lot
of people seem to have more money than sense.

--
--
--
Regards,
Noddy.

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 by: Xeno - Sat, 11 Nov 2023 05:22 UTC

On 11/11/2023 1:53 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 11/11/2023 10:46 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 10/11/2023 10:22 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 10/11/2023 4:29 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>
>>>> https://tinyurl.com/btmes84z
>>>>
>>>> I hope you were one of the lucky ones after having spent all night
>>>> on the pavement..
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> lol... or is this one of those Apple tricks where they pay people to
>>> line up to as a marketing tool.
>>>
>>
>> **Does Apple do that? Hardly surprising. Apple owners are just
>> children. Stupid ones at that. Almost every other brand offers better
>> value for money. It's always been that way.
>
> Just like Toyota for example :)
>
>
Ah, the jealousy's big in this one!

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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 by: Xeno - Sat, 11 Nov 2023 05:24 UTC

On 11/11/2023 2:13 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> Noddy wrote:
>> On 11/11/2023 12:21 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>
>>>> **Does Apple do that? Hardly surprising. Apple owners are just
>>>> children. Stupid ones at that. Almost every other brand offers
>>>> better value for money. It's always been that way.
>>>>
>>>
>>> non-techno ppl with money buy Apple stuff
>>
>> How would you know Felix? How many "non-tecno people with money" do
>> you know?
>
> a few actually
>
>>
>> I can't speak for what the bulk of other individuals do and why, but I
>> know a couple of people with Iphones who I would consider to be both
>> "non tecno" and "without money", but they buy them anyway because they
>> *like* them.
>
> of course ppl buy what they like, but many ppl don't see the value in
> iPhones and other istuff and consider them a waste of money, and others
> simply can't afford them

And then there are those of us who buy what we like, buy what suits our
needs, don't consider them a waste of money and, most importantly, can
afford them.
>
>>
>> I can also tell you that the Victorian public service uses Iphones
>> almost exclusively for no reason other than standardisation.
>>
>
>
>

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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 by: Xeno - Sat, 11 Nov 2023 05:26 UTC

On 11/11/2023 2:15 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> Xeno wrote:
>> On 11/11/2023 12:21 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>> On 10/11/2023 10:22 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>> On 10/11/2023 4:29 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/btmes84z
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hope you were one of the lucky ones after having spent all night
>>>>>> on the pavement..
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> lol... or is this one of those Apple tricks where they pay people
>>>>> to line up to as a marketing tool.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> **Does Apple do that? Hardly surprising. Apple owners are just
>>>> children. Stupid ones at that. Almost every other brand offers
>>>> better value for money. It's always been that way.
>>>>
>>>
>>> non-techno ppl with money buy Apple stuff
>>>
>> And techno ppl who just want their tech stuff to work.
>>
>
> is there any evidence that Apple stuff is more reliable than PC and
> Android products? but the really important question is.. did Alvey get

From my own personal experience - you can stick your Android phones up
your arse. My phone woes went away when Android/Samsung got out of my life.

> his Tay-Tay tickets??  :)
>
I hope so!

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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 by: Xeno - Sat, 11 Nov 2023 05:27 UTC

On 11/11/2023 2:28 pm, Clocky wrote:
> On 11/11/2023 9:40 am, Xeno wrote:
>> On 11/11/2023 12:21 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>> On 10/11/2023 10:22 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>> On 10/11/2023 4:29 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/btmes84z
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hope you were one of the lucky ones after having spent all night
>>>>>> on the pavement..
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> lol... or is this one of those Apple tricks where they pay people
>>>>> to line up to as a marketing tool.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> **Does Apple do that? Hardly surprising. Apple owners are just
>>>> children. Stupid ones at that. Almost every other brand offers
>>>> better value for money. It's always been that way.
>>>>
>>>
>>> non-techno ppl with money buy Apple stuff
>>>
>> And techno ppl who just want their tech stuff to work.
>>
>
>
> A fallacious argument. Apple sheeple are locked in to a closed system
> where they get to like what they served, don't ask questions and don't
> have any other options.
>
And the closed system works just fine for me and millions of others.

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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 by: Xeno - Sat, 11 Nov 2023 05:32 UTC

On 11/11/2023 3:17 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 11/11/2023 2:13 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>> Noddy wrote:
>
>>>> non-techno ppl with money buy Apple stuff
>>>
>>> How would you know Felix? How many "non-tecno people with money" do
>>> you know?
>>
>> a few actually
>
> Really? Lucky you. Not sure how that would allow you to speak for the
> majority though which was what you seemed to be doing....
>
>>> I can't speak for what the bulk of other individuals do and why, but
>>> I know a couple of people with Iphones who I would consider to be
>>> both "non tecno" and "without money", but they buy them anyway
>>> because they *like* them.
>>
>> of course ppl buy what they like, but many ppl don't see the value in
>> iPhones and other istuff and consider them a waste of money, and
>> others simply can't afford them
>
> I don't know about other "Istuff" (which is a pretty good term actually
> :), but the phone market is reasonably competitive. Iphones are pretty
> expensive, but it's not like all of the competing Android stuff is
> shitloads cheaper. For example, a current Iphone 15 Pro Max 512gb is
> $2549 outright from JB, whereas a Samsung S23 Ultra 512gb is $2249 from
> the same place. Yes, the Samsung is cheaper, but not by a hell of a lot
> and *both* of them are massively over priced in my opinion.
>
> Both of them also sell just about as fast as Apple and Samsung can make
> them, and if you find yourself in that kind of position where people are
> prepared to throw whatever money you want at you  to buy your Ishit as
> soon as you release it then why would you price it at anything other
> than "stupid"?
>
> There is a reason why Apple and Microsoft are the two wealthiest
> companies on the planet, and that generally is because a hell of a lot
> of people seem to have more money than sense.
>
Nah Darren, it's not the money, it's the *reliability* of the product.
That's why you can buy Heap of shit Nissans off the showroom floor
currently but will wait 6-18 months to get a Toyota.

--
Xeno

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(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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 by: Xeno - Sat, 11 Nov 2023 05:33 UTC

On 11/11/2023 2:45 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> Clocky wrote:
>> On 11/11/2023 9:40 am, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 11/11/2023 12:21 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>> On 10/11/2023 10:22 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/11/2023 4:29 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/btmes84z
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hope you were one of the lucky ones after having spent all
>>>>>>> night on the pavement..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> lol... or is this one of those Apple tricks where they pay people
>>>>>> to line up to as a marketing tool.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> **Does Apple do that? Hardly surprising. Apple owners are just
>>>>> children. Stupid ones at that. Almost every other brand offers
>>>>> better value for money. It's always been that way.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> non-techno ppl with money buy Apple stuff
>>>>
>>> And techno ppl who just want their tech stuff to work.
>>>
>>
>>
>> A fallacious argument. Apple sheeple are locked in to a closed system
>> where they get to like what they served, don't ask questions and don't
>> have any other options.
>>
>>
>>
>
> yep. but there's nothing wrong with ppl buying Apple stuff because they
> like it, of course. and especially for the ease of use.
>
Gee, isn't it amazing how you can so easily stir the possum up in here!

;-)

--
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(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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 by: Clocky - Sat, 11 Nov 2023 06:51 UTC

On 11/11/2023 11:45 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> Clocky wrote:
>> On 11/11/2023 9:40 am, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 11/11/2023 12:21 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>> On 10/11/2023 10:22 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/11/2023 4:29 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/btmes84z
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hope you were one of the lucky ones after having spent all
>>>>>>> night on the pavement..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> lol... or is this one of those Apple tricks where they pay people
>>>>>> to line up to as a marketing tool.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> **Does Apple do that? Hardly surprising. Apple owners are just
>>>>> children. Stupid ones at that. Almost every other brand offers
>>>>> better value for money. It's always been that way.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> non-techno ppl with money buy Apple stuff
>>>>
>>> And techno ppl who just want their tech stuff to work.
>>>
>>
>>
>> A fallacious argument. Apple sheeple are locked in to a closed system
>> where they get to like what they served, don't ask questions and don't
>> have any other options.
>>
>>
>>
>
> yep. but there's nothing wrong with ppl buying Apple stuff because they
> like it, of course. and especially for the ease of use.
>

Some people need to be lead by the nose and clearly there is a market
for that.

--
In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
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 by: Clocky - Sat, 11 Nov 2023 06:58 UTC

On 11/11/2023 1:32 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 11/11/2023 3:17 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 11/11/2023 2:13 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>> Noddy wrote:
>>
>>>>> non-techno ppl with money buy Apple stuff
>>>>
>>>> How would you know Felix? How many "non-tecno people with money" do
>>>> you know?
>>>
>>> a few actually
>>
>> Really? Lucky you. Not sure how that would allow you to speak for the
>> majority though which was what you seemed to be doing....
>>
>>>> I can't speak for what the bulk of other individuals do and why, but
>>>> I know a couple of people with Iphones who I would consider to be
>>>> both "non tecno" and "without money", but they buy them anyway
>>>> because they *like* them.
>>>
>>> of course ppl buy what they like, but many ppl don't see the value in
>>> iPhones and other istuff and consider them a waste of money, and
>>> others simply can't afford them
>>
>> I don't know about other "Istuff" (which is a pretty good term
>> actually :), but the phone market is reasonably competitive. Iphones
>> are pretty expensive, but it's not like all of the competing Android
>> stuff is shitloads cheaper. For example, a current Iphone 15 Pro Max
>> 512gb is $2549 outright from JB, whereas a Samsung S23 Ultra 512gb is
>> $2249 from the same place. Yes, the Samsung is cheaper, but not by a
>> hell of a lot and *both* of them are massively over priced in my opinion.
>>
>> Both of them also sell just about as fast as Apple and Samsung can
>> make them, and if you find yourself in that kind of position where
>> people are prepared to throw whatever money you want at you  to buy
>> your Ishit as soon as you release it then why would you price it at
>> anything other than "stupid"?
>>
>> There is a reason why Apple and Microsoft are the two wealthiest
>> companies on the planet, and that generally is because a hell of a lot
>> of people seem to have more money than sense.
>>
> Nah Darren, it's not the money, it's the *reliability* of the product.

That's pure nonsense. Watch the youtube channel of Louis Rossman, a guy
who makes a living fixing iCrap and his struggles against Apple and
their attempts to prevent people having the devices they own repaired.

> That's why you can buy Heap of shit Nissans off the showroom floor
> currently but will wait 6-18 months to get a Toyota.
>

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In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
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 by: Clocky - Sat, 11 Nov 2023 07:00 UTC

On 11/11/2023 1:26 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 11/11/2023 2:15 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>> Xeno wrote:
>>> On 11/11/2023 12:21 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>> On 10/11/2023 10:22 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/11/2023 4:29 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/btmes84z
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hope you were one of the lucky ones after having spent all
>>>>>>> night on the pavement..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> lol... or is this one of those Apple tricks where they pay people
>>>>>> to line up to as a marketing tool.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> **Does Apple do that? Hardly surprising. Apple owners are just
>>>>> children. Stupid ones at that. Almost every other brand offers
>>>>> better value for money. It's always been that way.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> non-techno ppl with money buy Apple stuff
>>>>
>>> And techno ppl who just want their tech stuff to work.
>>>
>>
>> is there any evidence that Apple stuff is more reliable than PC and
>> Android products? but the really important question is.. did Alvey get
>
> From my own personal experience - you can stick your Android phones up
> your arse. My phone woes went away when Android/Samsung got out of my life.
>

That just comes down to user error. Apple will hold your hand and show
you what they will allow you to do :-)

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In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

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From: xenolith@optusnet.com.au (Xeno)
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Subject: Re: alvey
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2023 19:05:21 +1100
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 by: Xeno - Sat, 11 Nov 2023 08:05 UTC

On 11/11/2023 5:58 pm, Clocky wrote:
> On 11/11/2023 1:32 pm, Xeno wrote:
>> On 11/11/2023 3:17 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>> On 11/11/2023 2:13 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>> Noddy wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> non-techno ppl with money buy Apple stuff
>>>>>
>>>>> How would you know Felix? How many "non-tecno people with money" do
>>>>> you know?
>>>>
>>>> a few actually
>>>
>>> Really? Lucky you. Not sure how that would allow you to speak for the
>>> majority though which was what you seemed to be doing....
>>>
>>>>> I can't speak for what the bulk of other individuals do and why,
>>>>> but I know a couple of people with Iphones who I would consider to
>>>>> be both "non tecno" and "without money", but they buy them anyway
>>>>> because they *like* them.
>>>>
>>>> of course ppl buy what they like, but many ppl don't see the value
>>>> in iPhones and other istuff and consider them a waste of money, and
>>>> others simply can't afford them
>>>
>>> I don't know about other "Istuff" (which is a pretty good term
>>> actually :), but the phone market is reasonably competitive. Iphones
>>> are pretty expensive, but it's not like all of the competing Android
>>> stuff is shitloads cheaper. For example, a current Iphone 15 Pro Max
>>> 512gb is $2549 outright from JB, whereas a Samsung S23 Ultra 512gb is
>>> $2249 from the same place. Yes, the Samsung is cheaper, but not by a
>>> hell of a lot and *both* of them are massively over priced in my
>>> opinion.
>>>
>>> Both of them also sell just about as fast as Apple and Samsung can
>>> make them, and if you find yourself in that kind of position where
>>> people are prepared to throw whatever money you want at you  to buy
>>> your Ishit as soon as you release it then why would you price it at
>>> anything other than "stupid"?
>>>
>>> There is a reason why Apple and Microsoft are the two wealthiest
>>> companies on the planet, and that generally is because a hell of a
>>> lot of people seem to have more money than sense.
>>>
>> Nah Darren, it's not the money, it's the *reliability* of the product.
>
>
> That's pure nonsense. Watch the youtube channel of Louis Rossman, a guy
> who makes a living fixing iCrap and his struggles against Apple and
> their attempts to prevent people having the devices they own repaired.

Playing games with operant conditioning is such fun!
>
>> That's why you can buy Heap of shit Nissans off the showroom floor
>> currently but will wait 6-18 months to get a Toyota.
>>
>
>

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(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

Re: alvey

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From: meow@pussie.com (Mighty Mouse)
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 by: Mighty Mouse - Sat, 11 Nov 2023 10:09 UTC

Noddy wrote:
> On 11/11/2023 2:13 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>> Noddy wrote:
>
>>>> non-techno ppl with money buy Apple stuff
>>>
>>> How would you know Felix? How many "non-tecno people with money" do
>>> you know?
>>
>> a few actually
>
> Really? Lucky you. Not sure how that would allow you to speak for the
> majority though which was what you seemed to be doing....

actually I wasn't speaking for anyone, just making a statement

>
>>> I can't speak for what the bulk of other individuals do and why, but
>>> I know a couple of people with Iphones who I would consider to be
>>> both "non tecno" and "without money", but they buy them anyway
>>> because they *like* them.
>>
>> of course ppl buy what they like, but many ppl don't see the value in
>> iPhones and other istuff and consider them a waste of money, and
>> others simply can't afford them
>
> I don't know about other "Istuff" (which is a pretty good term
> actually :), but the phone market is reasonably competitive. Iphones
> are pretty expensive, but it's not like all of the competing Android
> stuff is shitloads cheaper. For example, a current Iphone 15 Pro Max
> 512gb is $2549 outright from JB, whereas a Samsung S23 Ultra 512gb is
> $2249 from the same place. Yes, the Samsung is cheaper, but not by a
> hell of a lot and *both* of them are massively over priced in my opinion.
>
> Both of them also sell just about as fast as Apple and Samsung can
> make them, and if you find yourself in that kind of position where
> people are prepared to throw whatever money you want at you  to buy
> your Ishit as soon as you release it then why would you price it at
> anything other than "stupid"?

I'm not up with current pricing but in the past I recall that an android
phone with approx the same features as an equivalent iPhone was roughly
half or two thirds the price

>
> There is a reason why Apple and Microsoft are the two wealthiest
> companies on the planet, and that generally is because a hell of a lot
> of people seem to have more money than sense.
>

or ppl are prepared to sacrifice spending on other things to get what
they want

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