This is what a *proper* MG looks like!. Nothing chinese here.

https://scontent.fsyd11-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/360123973_6795196723848324_3865062020800100082_n.jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg&_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=bNHIUFraDlAAX_kq0Cp&_nc_ht=scontent.fsyd11-2.fna&oh=00_AfA56lyo9HhJdCwtuDGQ3h9zRs45xNQdwIxZcjABEvhAoA&oe=653A7BD9

On 23/10/2023 5:13 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
> This is what a *proper* MG looks like!. Nothing chinese here.
>
> https://scontent.fsyd11-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/360123973_6795196723848324_3865062020800100082_n.jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg&_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=bNHIUFraDlAAX_kq0Cp&_nc_ht=scontent.fsyd11-2.fna&oh=00_AfA56lyo9HhJdCwtuDGQ3h9zRs45xNQdwIxZcjABEvhAoA&oe=653A7BD9

**One of my clients has one. I reckon a motor bike is safer. That old MG
is diabolically flimsy. No collapsible steering column either.

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On Tuesday, 24 October 2023 at 08:22:44 UTC+11, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 23/10/2023 5:13 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
> > This is what a *proper* MG looks like!. Nothing chinese here.
> >
> > https://scontent.fsyd11-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/360123973_6795196723848324_3865062020800100082_n.jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg&_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=bNHIUFraDlAAX_kq0Cp&_nc_ht=scontent.fsyd11-2.fna&oh=00_AfA56lyo9HhJdCwtuDGQ3h9zRs45xNQdwIxZcjABEvhAoA&oe=653A7BD9
> **One of my clients has one. I reckon a motor bike is safer. That old MG
> is diabolically flimsy. No collapsible steering column either.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Don`t think I`ve *ever* owned a car with a collapsible steering column..
I`d own an old MG in an instant!. Guess it`ll be the bike for now. (for safety) ;)
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On 24/10/2023 9:42 am, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, 24 October 2023 at 08:22:44 UTC+11, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 23/10/2023 5:13 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>> This is what a *proper* MG looks like!. Nothing chinese here.
>>>
>>> https://scontent.fsyd11-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/360123973_6795196723848324_3865062020800100082_n.jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg&_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=bNHIUFraDlAAX_kq0Cp&_nc_ht=scontent.fsyd11-2.fna&oh=00_AfA56lyo9HhJdCwtuDGQ3h9zRs45xNQdwIxZcjABEvhAoA&oe=653A7BD9
>> **One of my clients has one. I reckon a motor bike is safer. That old MG
>> is diabolically flimsy. No collapsible steering column either.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Don`t think I`ve *ever* owned a car with a collapsible steering column..
> I`d own an old MG in an instant!. Guess it`ll be the bike for now. (for safety) ;)

**Good plan. A motor bike is MUCH safer. You've never owned a car with a
collapsible steering column? Even my ancient 1972 Ford Escort had one.
They've been around for a very long time.

In the US, it was mandatory from 1968:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steering_wheel

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Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 23/10/2023 5:13 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>> This is what a *proper* MG looks like!. Nothing chinese here.
>>
>> https://scontent.fsyd11-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/360123973_6795196723848324_3865062020800100082_n.jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg&_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=bNHIUFraDlAAX_kq0Cp&_nc_ht=scontent.fsyd11-2.fna&oh=00_AfA56lyo9HhJdCwtuDGQ3h9zRs45xNQdwIxZcjABEvhAoA&oe=653A7BD9
>
> **One of my clients has one. I reckon a motor bike is safer. That old
> MG is diabolically flimsy. No collapsible steering column either.
>

it's a death trap

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Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 24/10/2023 9:42 am, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>> On Tuesday, 24 October 2023 at 08:22:44 UTC+11, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 23/10/2023 5:13 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>>> This is what a *proper* MG looks like!. Nothing chinese here.
>>>>
>>>> https://scontent.fsyd11-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/360123973_6795196723848324_3865062020800100082_n.jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg&_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=bNHIUFraDlAAX_kq0Cp&_nc_ht=scontent.fsyd11-2.fna&oh=00_AfA56lyo9HhJdCwtuDGQ3h9zRs45xNQdwIxZcjABEvhAoA&oe=653A7BD9
>>>>
>>> **One of my clients has one. I reckon a motor bike is safer. That
>>> old MG
>>> is diabolically flimsy. No collapsible steering column either.
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Don`t think I`ve *ever* owned a car with a collapsible steering column..
>>   I`d own an old MG in an instant!. Guess it`ll be the bike for now.
>> (for safety) ;)
>
> **Good plan. A motor bike is MUCH safer.

I don't know how you can say that

> You've never owned a car with a collapsible steering column? Even my
> ancient 1972 Ford Escort had one. They've been around for a very long
> time.
>
> In the US, it was mandatory from 1968:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steering_wheel
>
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On 24/10/2023 10:46 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 23/10/2023 5:13 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>> This is what a *proper* MG looks like!. Nothing chinese here.
>>>
>>> https://scontent.fsyd11-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/360123973_6795196723848324_3865062020800100082_n.jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg&_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=bNHIUFraDlAAX_kq0Cp&_nc_ht=scontent.fsyd11-2.fna&oh=00_AfA56lyo9HhJdCwtuDGQ3h9zRs45xNQdwIxZcjABEvhAoA&oe=653A7BD9
>>
>> **One of my clients has one. I reckon a motor bike is safer. That old
>> MG is diabolically flimsy. No collapsible steering column either.
>>
>
> it's a death trap
>

**Yeah, it sure is. Kinda reminds me of the time one of my tech mates
ran up the arse of a Triumph Herald, whilst riding his motor bike. The
Triumph was a write-off and had to be towed. My mate rode his bike home.
Old Pommy cars were not great. The MG TC was a seriously flimsy car.

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On 24/10/2023 10:49 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 24/10/2023 9:42 am, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, 24 October 2023 at 08:22:44 UTC+11, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>> On 23/10/2023 5:13 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>>>> This is what a *proper* MG looks like!. Nothing chinese here.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://scontent.fsyd11-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/360123973_6795196723848324_3865062020800100082_n.jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg&_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=bNHIUFraDlAAX_kq0Cp&_nc_ht=scontent.fsyd11-2.fna&oh=00_AfA56lyo9HhJdCwtuDGQ3h9zRs45xNQdwIxZcjABEvhAoA&oe=653A7BD9
>>>> **One of my clients has one. I reckon a motor bike is safer. That
>>>> old MG
>>>> is diabolically flimsy. No collapsible steering column either.
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>> Don`t think I`ve *ever* owned a car with a collapsible steering column..
>>>   I`d own an old MG in an instant!. Guess it`ll be the bike for now.
>>> (for safety) ;)
>>
>> **Good plan. A motor bike is MUCH safer.
>
> I don't know how you can say that
>

**No steering column to spear through the chest of the driver.

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On 24/10/2023 8:22 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 23/10/2023 5:13 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>> This is what a *proper* MG looks like!. Nothing chinese here.
>>
>>
>> https://scontent.fsyd11-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/360123973_6795196723848324_3865062020800100082_n.jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg&_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=bNHIUFraDlAAX_kq0Cp&_nc_ht=scontent.fsyd11-2.fna&oh=00_AfA56lyo9HhJdCwtuDGQ3h9zRs45xNQdwIxZcjABEvhAoA&oe=653A7BD9
>
> **One of my clients has one. I reckon a motor bike is safer. That old MG
> is diabolically flimsy. No collapsible steering column either.

Interesting. I don't see some of these posts originally. I suspect
Eternal September is having some issues picking up posts, and has been
for a while.

Not that I'm a huge MG fan, but I liked some. The V8 MG-B's were kinda
cool, and the MG-A was a very nice looking car. Not sure on what model
this is. Maybe a TD? Don't know why you'd want an MG that didn't have
wire wheels with knock offs.

Also, your comment that a motorbike would be safer is absolutely
ludicrous. Ask me how I know :)

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On 24/10/2023 9:42 am, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, 24 October 2023 at 08:22:44 UTC+11, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 23/10/2023 5:13 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>> This is what a *proper* MG looks like!. Nothing chinese here.
>>>
>>> https://scontent.fsyd11-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/360123973_6795196723848324_3865062020800100082_n.jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg&_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=bNHIUFraDlAAX_kq0Cp&_nc_ht=scontent.fsyd11-2.fna&oh=00_AfA56lyo9HhJdCwtuDGQ3h9zRs45xNQdwIxZcjABEvhAoA&oe=653A7BD9
>> **One of my clients has one. I reckon a motor bike is safer. That old MG
>> is diabolically flimsy. No collapsible steering column either.

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Don`t think I`ve *ever* owned a car with a collapsible steering column..

Your Jeep would have one.

> I`d own an old MG in an instant!. Guess it`ll be the bike for now. (for safety) ;)

Lol :)

Just thinking of the list of injuries I've suffered because of the
inherent "built in safety" features of your average motorcycle:

Fractured skull.
Broken Jaw.
Broken cheekbone.
Broken arm.
Broken leg.
Broken collarbones.
Broken ribs.
Fractured wrists.
Fractured Pelvis.
Broken back.
Fractured ankle.
Various cuts, lacerations and contusions.

Oh yeah. I can see how someone could look at even the most rickety old
car and conclude that a bike was a safer option.

For fuck's sake.... :)

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On 24/10/2023 9:51 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 24/10/2023 9:42 am, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>> On Tuesday, 24 October 2023 at 08:22:44 UTC+11, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 23/10/2023 5:13 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>>> This is what a *proper* MG looks like!. Nothing chinese here.
>>>>
>>>> https://scontent.fsyd11-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/360123973_6795196723848324_3865062020800100082_n.jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg&_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=bNHIUFraDlAAX_kq0Cp&_nc_ht=scontent.fsyd11-2.fna&oh=00_AfA56lyo9HhJdCwtuDGQ3h9zRs45xNQdwIxZcjABEvhAoA&oe=653A7BD9
>>> **One of my clients has one. I reckon a motor bike is safer. That old MG
>>> is diabolically flimsy. No collapsible steering column either.
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Don`t think I`ve *ever* owned a car with a collapsible steering column..
>>   I`d own an old MG in an instant!. Guess it`ll be the bike for now.
>> (for safety) ;)
>
> **Good plan. A motor bike is MUCH safer.

Hahahahaha :)
>

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On 24/10/2023 10:49 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 24/10/2023 9:42 am, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:

>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>> Don`t think I`ve *ever* owned a car with a collapsible steering column..
>>>   I`d own an old MG in an instant!. Guess it`ll be the bike for now.
>>> (for safety) ;)
>>
>> **Good plan. A motor bike is MUCH safer.
>
> I don't know how you can say that

Yeah, I don't know either. I think he's away with the fairies.

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On 24/10/2023 10:46 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 23/10/2023 5:13 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>> This is what a *proper* MG looks like!. Nothing chinese here.
>>>
>>> https://scontent.fsyd11-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/360123973_6795196723848324_3865062020800100082_n.jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg&_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=bNHIUFraDlAAX_kq0Cp&_nc_ht=scontent.fsyd11-2.fna&oh=00_AfA56lyo9HhJdCwtuDGQ3h9zRs45xNQdwIxZcjABEvhAoA&oe=653A7BD9
>>
>> **One of my clients has one. I reckon a motor bike is safer. That old
>> MG is diabolically flimsy. No collapsible steering column either.
>>
>
> it's a death trap

Just to clue you in here Felix, there is no such thing as a "safe car".
Only varying degrees of "less safe".

The old MG would not be anywhere near as safe as anything made today,
but that doesn't mean you're automatically going to die just by driving it.

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On 24/10/2023 11:10 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 24/10/2023 10:49 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:

>>>>   I`d own an old MG in an instant!. Guess it`ll be the bike for now.
>>>> (for safety) ;)
>>>
>>> **Good plan. A motor bike is MUCH safer.
>>
>> I don't know how you can say that
>>
>
> **No steering column to spear through the chest of the driver.

No, that's right. There's not. There's only every solid object you hit,
both moving and stationary, when you get chucked over the bars instead.

Sometimes I think you and Felix are in a secret competition to see who
can come up with the most ridiculous statements :)

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On Tuesday, 24 October 2023 at 09:51:59 UTC+11, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 24/10/2023 9:42 am, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 24 October 2023 at 08:22:44 UTC+11, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> >> On 23/10/2023 5:13 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
> >>> This is what a *proper* MG looks like!. Nothing chinese here.
> >>>
> >>> https://scontent.fsyd11-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/360123973_6795196723848324_3865062020800100082_n.jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg&_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=bNHIUFraDlAAX_kq0Cp&_nc_ht=scontent.fsyd11-2.fna&oh=00_AfA56lyo9HhJdCwtuDGQ3h9zRs45xNQdwIxZcjABEvhAoA&oe=653A7BD9
> >> **One of my clients has one. I reckon a motor bike is safer. That old MG
> >> is diabolically flimsy. No collapsible steering column either.
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Don`t think I`ve *ever* owned a car with a collapsible steering column...
> > I`d own an old MG in an instant!. Guess it`ll be the bike for now. (for safety) ;)

> **Good plan. A motor bike is MUCH safer. You've never owned a car with a
> collapsible steering column? Even my ancient 1972 Ford Escort had one.
> They've been around for a very long time.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
As I said I dont think so. Maybe i did, wasn`t something that concerned me enough to find out.
A lot of cars i`ve owned were 30`s to 50`s...
I`ve never owned a MG, but, have ridden in plenty. (and driven a few.)
Great little cars for mine. My dad had one....
Well, i`m off for coffee, (on the Yammy) ;)
>
> In the US, it was mandatory from 1968:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steering_wheel
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On 24/10/2023 8:46 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 24/10/2023 9:42 am, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>> On Tuesday, 24 October 2023 at 08:22:44 UTC+11, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 23/10/2023 5:13 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>>> This is what a *proper* MG looks like!. Nothing chinese here.
>>>>
>>>> https://scontent.fsyd11-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/360123973_6795196723848324_3865062020800100082_n.jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg&_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=bNHIUFraDlAAX_kq0Cp&_nc_ht=scontent.fsyd11-2.fna&oh=00_AfA56lyo9HhJdCwtuDGQ3h9zRs45xNQdwIxZcjABEvhAoA&oe=653A7BD9
>>>>
>>> **One of my clients has one. I reckon a motor bike is safer. That old MG
>>> is diabolically flimsy. No collapsible steering column either.
>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Don`t think I`ve *ever* owned a car with a collapsible steering column..
>
> Your Jeep would have one.
>
>
>>   I`d own an old MG in an instant!. Guess it`ll be the bike for now.
>> (for safety) ;)
>
> Lol :)
>
> Just thinking of the list of injuries I've suffered because of the
> inherent "built in safety" features of your average motorcycle:
>
> Fractured skull.
> Broken Jaw.
> Broken cheekbone.
> Broken arm.
> Broken leg.
> Broken collarbones.
> Broken ribs.
> Fractured wrists.
> Fractured Pelvis.
> Broken back.
> Fractured ankle.
> Various cuts, lacerations and contusions.
>

and an ABI...

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On 24/10/2023 9:51 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 24/10/2023 9:42 am, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>> On Tuesday, 24 October 2023 at 08:22:44 UTC+11, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 23/10/2023 5:13 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>>> This is what a *proper* MG looks like!. Nothing chinese here.
>>>>
>>>> https://scontent.fsyd11-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/360123973_6795196723848324_3865062020800100082_n.jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg&_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=bNHIUFraDlAAX_kq0Cp&_nc_ht=scontent.fsyd11-2.fna&oh=00_AfA56lyo9HhJdCwtuDGQ3h9zRs45xNQdwIxZcjABEvhAoA&oe=653A7BD9
>>> **One of my clients has one. I reckon a motor bike is safer. That old MG
>>> is diabolically flimsy. No collapsible steering column either.
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Don`t think I`ve *ever* owned a car with a collapsible steering column..
>>   I`d own an old MG in an instant!. Guess it`ll be the bike for now.
>> (for safety) ;)
>
> **Good plan. A motor bike is MUCH safer. You've never owned a car with a
> collapsible steering column? Even my ancient 1972 Ford Escort had one.
> They've been around for a very long time.
>
> In the US, it was mandatory from 1968:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steering_wheel
>
Hmmm, he claims to own a Jeep Cherokee. It has a collapsible steering
column. The double u-jointed steering shaft gives it away. Designed upon
frontal impact to allow the steering box to twist which will, in turn,
swing the steering wheel up towards the windscreen. IIRC, they also have
an upper collapsible shaft. Pretty much every car had something like
that from the 80s or thereabouts. Became an absolute necessity to use a
steering wheel puller when removing the steering wheel from the column
else you would damage the collapsible shaft.

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On 24/10/2023 10:46 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 23/10/2023 5:13 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>> This is what a *proper* MG looks like!. Nothing chinese here.
>>>
>>> https://scontent.fsyd11-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/360123973_6795196723848324_3865062020800100082_n.jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg&_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=bNHIUFraDlAAX_kq0Cp&_nc_ht=scontent.fsyd11-2.fna&oh=00_AfA56lyo9HhJdCwtuDGQ3h9zRs45xNQdwIxZcjABEvhAoA&oe=653A7BD9
>>
>> **One of my clients has one. I reckon a motor bike is safer. That old
>> MG is diabolically flimsy. No collapsible steering column either.
>>
>
> it's a death trap
>
The interesting thing about old MGs like the TC models, was that the
exposed front wheels tended to climb up on any other vehicle hit in a
1/4 collision, then roll over. The Jeep Wranglers continue the tradition
to this very day - even when the wheel on the accident side is ripped
clean off.

https://www.corywatson.com/blog/jeep-wrangler-rollover-accident-dangers/

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On 24/10/2023 11:40 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 24/10/2023 8:22 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 23/10/2023 5:13 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>> This is what a *proper* MG looks like!. Nothing chinese here.
>>>
>>> https://scontent.fsyd11-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/360123973_6795196723848324_3865062020800100082_n.jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg&_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=bNHIUFraDlAAX_kq0Cp&_nc_ht=scontent.fsyd11-2.fna&oh=00_AfA56lyo9HhJdCwtuDGQ3h9zRs45xNQdwIxZcjABEvhAoA&oe=653A7BD9
>>
>> **One of my clients has one. I reckon a motor bike is safer. That old
>> MG is diabolically flimsy. No collapsible steering column either.
>
> Interesting. I don't see some of these posts originally. I suspect
> Eternal September is having some issues picking up posts, and has been
> for a while.
>
> Not that I'm a huge MG fan, but I liked some. The V8 MG-B's were kinda
> cool, and the MG-A was a very nice looking car. Not sure on what model
> this is. Maybe a TD? Don't know why you'd want an MG that didn't have
> wire wheels with knock offs.
>
> Also, your comment that a motorbike would be safer is absolutely
> ludicrous. Ask me how I know :)
>
Darren, just because *you* have no clue how to operate a motorcycle
safely does not mean everyone else is like you. You're a fool when it
comes to motorcycles and you proved it.

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On 24/10/2023 11:46 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 24/10/2023 9:42 am, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>> On Tuesday, 24 October 2023 at 08:22:44 UTC+11, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 23/10/2023 5:13 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>>> This is what a *proper* MG looks like!. Nothing chinese here.
>>>>
>>>> https://scontent.fsyd11-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/360123973_6795196723848324_3865062020800100082_n.jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg&_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=bNHIUFraDlAAX_kq0Cp&_nc_ht=scontent.fsyd11-2.fna&oh=00_AfA56lyo9HhJdCwtuDGQ3h9zRs45xNQdwIxZcjABEvhAoA&oe=653A7BD9
>>> **One of my clients has one. I reckon a motor bike is safer. That old MG
>>> is diabolically flimsy. No collapsible steering column either.
>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Don`t think I`ve *ever* owned a car with a collapsible steering column..
>
> Your Jeep would have one.
>
>
>>   I`d own an old MG in an instant!. Guess it`ll be the bike for now.
>> (for safety) ;)
>
> Lol :)
>
> Just thinking of the list of injuries I've suffered because of the
> inherent "built in safety" features of your average motorcycle:
>
> Fractured skull.

That's the origin of your ABI right there!

> Broken Jaw.
> Broken cheekbone.
> Broken arm.
> Broken leg.
> Broken collarbones.
> Broken ribs.
> Fractured wrists.
> Fractured Pelvis.
> Broken back.
> Fractured ankle.
> Various cuts, lacerations and contusions.
>
> Oh yeah. I can see how someone could look at even the most rickety old
> car and conclude that a bike was a safer option.
>
> For fuck's sake.... :)
>

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On Tuesday, 24 October 2023 at 11:10:27 UTC+11, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 24/10/2023 10:49 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> > Trevor Wilson wrote:
> >> On 24/10/2023 9:42 am, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, 24 October 2023 at 08:22:44 UTC+11, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> >>>> On 23/10/2023 5:13 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
> >>>>> This is what a *proper* MG looks like!. Nothing chinese here.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://scontent.fsyd11-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/360123973_6795196723848324_3865062020800100082_n.jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg&_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=bNHIUFraDlAAX_kq0Cp&_nc_ht=scontent.fsyd11-2.fna&oh=00_AfA56lyo9HhJdCwtuDGQ3h9zRs45xNQdwIxZcjABEvhAoA&oe=653A7BD9
> >>>> **One of my clients has one. I reckon a motor bike is safer. That
> >>>> old MG
> >>>> is diabolically flimsy. No collapsible steering column either.
> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>> Don`t think I`ve *ever* owned a car with a collapsible steering column..
> >>> I`d own an old MG in an instant!. Guess it`ll be the bike for now.
> >>> (for safety) ;)
> >>
> >> **Good plan. A motor bike is MUCH safer.
> >
> > I don't know how you can say that
> >
> **No steering column to spear through the chest of the driver.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
maybe not, but a crash that would spear yer chest, is going to *seriously* fuck up, or unalive you anyhoo......
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Xeno wrote:
> On 24/10/2023 10:46 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 23/10/2023 5:13 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>>> This is what a *proper* MG looks like!. Nothing chinese here.
>>>>
>>>> https://scontent.fsyd11-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/360123973_6795196723848324_3865062020800100082_n.jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg&_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=bNHIUFraDlAAX_kq0Cp&_nc_ht=scontent.fsyd11-2.fna&oh=00_AfA56lyo9HhJdCwtuDGQ3h9zRs45xNQdwIxZcjABEvhAoA&oe=653A7BD9
>>>>
>>>
>>> **One of my clients has one. I reckon a motor bike is safer. That
>>> old MG is diabolically flimsy. No collapsible steering column either.
>>>
>>
>> it's a death trap
>>
> The interesting thing about old MGs like the TC models, was that the
> exposed front wheels tended to climb up on any other vehicle hit in a
> 1/4 collision, then roll over. The Jeep Wranglers continue the
> tradition to this very day - even when the wheel on the accident side
> is ripped clean off.
>
> https://www.corywatson.com/blog/jeep-wrangler-rollover-accident-dangers/
>
>
>

interesting

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Xeno wrote:
> On 24/10/2023 11:40 am, Noddy wrote:
>> On 24/10/2023 8:22 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 23/10/2023 5:13 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>>> This is what a *proper* MG looks like!. Nothing chinese here.
>>>>
>>>> https://scontent.fsyd11-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/360123973_6795196723848324_3865062020800100082_n.jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg&_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=bNHIUFraDlAAX_kq0Cp&_nc_ht=scontent.fsyd11-2.fna&oh=00_AfA56lyo9HhJdCwtuDGQ3h9zRs45xNQdwIxZcjABEvhAoA&oe=653A7BD9
>>>>
>>>
>>> **One of my clients has one. I reckon a motor bike is safer. That
>>> old MG is diabolically flimsy. No collapsible steering column either.
>>
>> Interesting. I don't see some of these posts originally. I suspect
>> Eternal September is having some issues picking up posts, and has
>> been for a while.
>>
>> Not that I'm a huge MG fan, but I liked some. The V8 MG-B's were
>> kinda cool, and the MG-A was a very nice looking car. Not sure on
>> what model this is. Maybe a TD? Don't know why you'd want an MG that
>> didn't have wire wheels with knock offs.
>>
>> Also, your comment that a motorbike would be safer is absolutely
>> ludicrous. Ask me how I know :)
>>
> Darren, just because *you* have no clue how to operate a motorcycle
> safely does not mean everyone else is like you. You're a fool when it
> comes to motorcycles and you proved it.
>

if you're a safe rider, the biggest danger with motorcycles is being hit
by a motorist. I recall some time ago on the news a motorbike rider was
stopped at traffic lights in a line of cars and was hit and killed by
the car behind, who failed to stop and squashed him into the the car
infront. you don't even need to be riding to be killed!

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On 24/10/2023 1:59 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> Xeno wrote:

> if you're a safe rider, the biggest danger with motorcycles is being hit
> by a motorist. I recall some time ago on the news a motorbike rider was
> stopped at traffic lights in a line of cars and was hit and killed by
> the car behind, who failed to stop and squashed him into the the car
> infront. you don't even need to be riding to be killed!

Being a safe rider is no different to being a safe driver. You can do
everything within your power to minimise your chances of coming to
grief, but you have zero control of the morons around you. The problem
there for bike riders is because they are not as obvious on the road as
your average car/van/truck they are statistically more likely to be
involved in a collision.

I used to love bike riding, but it comes at a price. It makes no
difference how cautious a rider you are, you're always at the mercy of
the idiots you share the road with and there are some total whackjobs
out there these days. Most of my bike injuries come from off road use,
but the more serious ones are the result if idiots not paying attention.
Like people who drive through stop signs or pull out of kerbside parks
without looking, or just generally being blissfully unaware of the world
around them.

As you mentioned, you can be doing everything right and be taken out by
some moron who's texting on their phone and not paying attention. That
has nothing to do with how good a rider you are, and everything to do
with being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

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On Tuesday, 24 October 2023 at 12:37:50 UTC+11, Xeno wrote:
> On 24/10/2023 9:51 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> > On 24/10/2023 9:42 am, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, 24 October 2023 at 08:22:44 UTC+11, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> >>> On 23/10/2023 5:13 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
> >>>> This is what a *proper* MG looks like!. Nothing chinese here.
> >>>>
> >>>> https://scontent.fsyd11-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/360123973_6795196723848324_3865062020800100082_n.jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg&_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=bNHIUFraDlAAX_kq0Cp&_nc_ht=scontent.fsyd11-2.fna&oh=00_AfA56lyo9HhJdCwtuDGQ3h9zRs45xNQdwIxZcjABEvhAoA&oe=653A7BD9
> >>> **One of my clients has one. I reckon a motor bike is safer. That old MG
> >>> is diabolically flimsy. No collapsible steering column either.
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >> Don`t think I`ve *ever* owned a car with a collapsible steering column...

*That* was an out-of-brain moment.....My Bad.

> >> I`d own an old MG in an instant!. Guess it`ll be the bike for now.
> >> (for safety) ;)
> >
> > **Good plan. A motor bike is MUCH safer. You've never owned a car with a
> > collapsible steering column? Even my ancient 1972 Ford Escort had one.
> > They've been around for a very long time.
> >
> > In the US, it was mandatory from 1968:
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steering_wheel
> >
> Hmmm, he claims to own a Jeep Cherokee.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Oh no, Sprung Its all FLC type imagination! <G>

It has a collapsible steering
> column. The double u-jointed steering shaft gives it away. Designed upon
> frontal impact to allow the steering box to twist which will, in turn,
> swing the steering wheel up towards the windscreen. IIRC, they also have
> an upper collapsible shaft.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

You were carrying all that (useless to you) information around in yer melon eh?
Ya know, All this googling just shows you up as a twat...
Pretty much every car had something like
> that from the 80s or thereabouts.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
AND?.
Became an absolute necessity to use a
> steering wheel puller when removing the steering wheel from the column
> else you would damage the collapsible shaft.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

*AN absolute necessity*, Nup, ive had the wheel off mine. The parts car one was better!.
Used the tried and true method. (Not that you would know *what
* that may be.)

Forget my Jeep for a minute, Are you really saying *every* car since the `80s* needs a puller to remove the steering wheel???
Not so, Take yer theory and *shove* it...Yer *inexperience* is showing.. (relying on *transferred* knowledge wiil show you up every time.. )
>
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>
>
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