On 9/10/2023 3:59 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> Noddy wrote:
>> On 9/10/2023 2:00 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>> Noddy wrote:
>>
>>>> For a bloke who recently looked at cars with the idea of buying a
>>>> new one for himself, I find your lack of awareness of the various
>>>> makes and models in your price range to be somewhat staggering :)
>>>
>>> none of the ones we've been discussing are anything like the ZS numbnuts
>>
>> Lol :)
>>
>> The Kia Stonic and Hyundai Venue both compete directly against the ZS,
>
> I had looked at both Hyundai and Kia websites briefly and noted none of
> their models were comparatively priced with the ZS which at the time was
> $22,990 for the 2022 model iirc
>
>> and it was only a few short days ago that you claimed you weren't
>> aware of either of them. This was *after* you'd made your purchase,
>> which suggests to me that your "awareness" is extremely limited :)
>>
>>
>>>> As I said I would be genuinely surprised if you, or whomever you're
>>>> looking for, didn't think it was a great little car. Very solid,
>>>> very good build quality,
>>>
>>> Really? So what objective "quality" tests have you carried out, and
>>> on what makes and models have you run those tests in order to reach
>>> your conclusions?
>>
>> Two things here Felix.
>
> yes boss, I'm all ears..
>
I'm surprised Darren can count to two!
>>
>> Firstly, I guarantee you as sure as I'm sitting here that I've spent a
>> hell of a lot more time in a hell of a lot more cars than you have,

And Darren's spun a whole lot more bullshit than just about anyone on
the planet.

>> and have a hell of a lot more experience in picking the difference
>> between well made and poorly built cars than you could ever hope to.
>>
>> I don't expect you to buy that Felix, but that's the reality whether

Given Darren's track record of *bullshit*, I don't expect anyone to buy
that!

>> you like it or not. Of course I could say something completely
>> nonsensical like "Being a mechanic makes me intuitively aware of
>> things like build quality (or switch locations)", but I'm not a clog
>> wearing fucktard and couldn't make such insane claims in good
>> conscience :)
>>
>> Secondly, I'm not making claims like "The quality is as good as
>> anything else", which is an utterly ridiculous statement to make when

Hmmm, Darren made claims of 3 apprenticeships, they were utter bullshit.

>> you *clearly* have no experience with everything else. All *I* said
>> was that the build quality was good, and made no reference how it
>> compares to anything else one way or the other.
>
> by claiming the build quality is good, the reader can rightly assume you
> are comparing it to other cars. it's implied in your claim. or else by
> what measure are you determining the build quality to make any judgment
> about it? the build quality is good relative to the Sydney Harbour
> Bridge maybe?
>
>>
>> You *really* need to brush up on your language skills, as your
>> comprehension is *appalling*.
>>
>>
>
> you *really* need to brush up on your logic skills, as your reasoning is
> *appalling*.
>
>
>

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On 9/10/2023 4:44 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 9/10/2023 3:59 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>> Noddy wrote:
>
>>>> none of the ones we've been discussing are anything like the ZS
>>>> numbnuts
>>>
>>> Lol :)
>>>
>>> The Kia Stonic and Hyundai Venue both compete directly against the ZS,
>>
>> I had looked at both Hyundai and Kia websites briefly and noted none
>> of their models were comparatively priced with the ZS which at the
>> time was $22,990 for the 2022 model iirc
>
> Bullshit :)

Does that serve as a warning to readers that all you follow up with is
bullshit? Well done - if that's the case.
>
> You stated in earlier posts that you didn't even know these models
> existed before you bought your car, not that you were aware of them and
> they were out of your price range. But even if you *had* been aware the
> price difference between the base model ZS and the Stonic is a thousand
> bucks.
>
> For the extra grand, I know which one I would prefer.
>
>>>> Really? So what objective "quality" tests have you carried out, and
>>>> on what makes and models have you run those tests in order to reach
>>>> your conclusions?
>>>
>>> Two things here Felix.
>>
>> yes boss, I'm all ears..
>
> I don't think you are Felix,  and that's your problem. You're all too
> keen to listen to the people who do nothing but piss in your pocket.
>
>>> Secondly, I'm not making claims like "The quality is as good as
>>> anything else", which is an utterly ridiculous statement to make when
>>> you *clearly* have no experience with everything else. All *I* said
>>> was that the build quality was good, and made no reference how it
>>> compares to anything else one way or the other.
>>
>> by claiming the build quality is good, the reader can rightly assume
>> you are comparing it to other cars. it's implied in your claim.
>
> Fucking rubbish. It means no such nonsense at all. The only thing being
> "implied" here is your inability comprehend what's being said to you.
>
>> or else by what measure are you determining the build quality to make
>> any judgment about it? the build quality is good relative to the
>> Sydney Harbour Bridge maybe?
>
> There is something wrong with you if you can't look at something and
> tell if it's free of blemishes or faults, and appears to be well put
> together. You don't need to make comparisons to anything else, and I
> wasn't doing that. *You* were.
>
> By your logic it's apparently impossible to make assessments in
> isolation :)
>
>>> You *really* need to brush up on your language skills, as your
>>> comprehension is *appalling*.
>>
>> you *really* need to brush up on your logic skills, as your reasoning
>> is *appalling*.
>
> You're operating *way* above your competency level here pal.

Darren, in automotive, you have *always* been operating way above your
competency level. You didn't even *qualify* to enter into any
apprenticeship ever, remember? Minimum year 9 passes - and you skipped
that exam along with the last 2 or 3 months of year 9. Your own words
condemn you there. Yet here you were, trying to convince people that you
were signed up to an AME apprenticeship at *technician level* with year
10 entry levels. You must have big feet - you keep tripping up over your
own bullshit *all the time*.

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Noddy wrote:
> On 9/10/2023 3:59 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>> Noddy wrote:
>
>>>> none of the ones we've been discussing are anything like the ZS
>>>> numbnuts
>>>
>>> Lol :)
>>>
>>> The Kia Stonic and Hyundai Venue both compete directly against the ZS,
>>
>> I had looked at both Hyundai and Kia websites briefly and noted none
>> of their models were comparatively priced with the ZS which at the
>> time was $22,990 for the 2022 model iirc
>
> Bullshit :)

exactly as I said. I looked online, just didn't take note of the models

>
> You stated in earlier posts that you didn't even know these models
> existed before you bought your car, not that you were aware of them
> and they were out of your price range. But even if you *had* been
> aware the price difference between the base model ZS and the Stonic is
> a thousand bucks.

the Stonic is smaller

>
> For the extra grand, I know which one I would prefer.
>
>>>> Really? So what objective "quality" tests have you carried out, and
>>>> on what makes and models have you run those tests in order to reach
>>>> your conclusions?
>>>
>>> Two things here Felix.
>>
>> yes boss, I'm all ears..
>
> I don't think you are Felix,  and that's your problem. You're all too
> keen to listen to the people who do nothing but piss in your pocket.
>
>>> Secondly, I'm not making claims like "The quality is as good as
>>> anything else", which is an utterly ridiculous statement to make
>>> when you *clearly* have no experience with everything else. All *I*
>>> said was that the build quality was good, and made no reference how
>>> it compares to anything else one way or the other.
>>
>> by claiming the build quality is good, the reader can rightly assume
>> you are comparing it to other cars. it's implied in your claim.
>
> Fucking rubbish. It means no such nonsense at all. The only thing
> being "implied" here is your inability comprehend what's being said to
> you.
>
>> or else by what measure are you determining the build quality to make
>> any judgment about it? the build quality is good relative to the
>> Sydney Harbour Bridge maybe?
>
> There is something wrong with you if you can't look at something and
> tell if it's free of blemishes or faults, and appears to be well put
> together. You don't need to make comparisons to anything else, and I
> wasn't doing that. *You* were.
>
> By your logic it's apparently impossible to make assessments in
> isolation :)

it is. you cannot decide what is good or bad without a standard of some sort

>
>>> You *really* need to brush up on your language skills, as your
>>> comprehension is *appalling*.
>>
>> you *really* need to brush up on your logic skills, as your reasoning
>> is *appalling*.
>
> You're operating *way* above your competency level here pal.
>
>

you've never had any

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On 9/10/2023 5:45 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> Noddy wrote:
>> On 9/10/2023 3:59 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>> Noddy wrote:
>>
>>>>> none of the ones we've been discussing are anything like the ZS
>>>>> numbnuts
>>>>
>>>> Lol :)
>>>>
>>>> The Kia Stonic and Hyundai Venue both compete directly against the ZS,
>>>
>>> I had looked at both Hyundai and Kia websites briefly and noted none
>>> of their models were comparatively priced with the ZS which at the
>>> time was $22,990 for the 2022 model iirc
>>
>> Bullshit :)
>
> exactly as I said. I looked online, just didn't take note of the models
>
>>
>> You stated in earlier posts that you didn't even know these models
>> existed before you bought your car, not that you were aware of them
>> and they were out of your price range. But even if you *had* been
>> aware the price difference between the base model ZS and the Stonic is
>> a thousand bucks.
>
> the Stonic is smaller
>
Having seen the Hyundai Venue recently, I'd have said they were pretty
small also.
>>
>> For the extra grand, I know which one I would prefer.
>>
>>>>> Really? So what objective "quality" tests have you carried out, and
>>>>> on what makes and models have you run those tests in order to reach
>>>>> your conclusions?
>>>>
>>>> Two things here Felix.
>>>
>>> yes boss, I'm all ears..
>>
>> I don't think you are Felix,  and that's your problem. You're all too
>> keen to listen to the people who do nothing but piss in your pocket.
>>
>>>> Secondly, I'm not making claims like "The quality is as good as
>>>> anything else", which is an utterly ridiculous statement to make
>>>> when you *clearly* have no experience with everything else. All *I*
>>>> said was that the build quality was good, and made no reference how
>>>> it compares to anything else one way or the other.
>>>
>>> by claiming the build quality is good, the reader can rightly assume
>>> you are comparing it to other cars. it's implied in your claim.
>>
>> Fucking rubbish. It means no such nonsense at all. The only thing
>> being "implied" here is your inability comprehend what's being said to
>> you.
>>
>>> or else by what measure are you determining the build quality to make
>>> any judgment about it? the build quality is good relative to the
>>> Sydney Harbour Bridge maybe?
>>
>> There is something wrong with you if you can't look at something and
>> tell if it's free of blemishes or faults, and appears to be well put
>> together. You don't need to make comparisons to anything else, and I
>> wasn't doing that. *You* were.
>>
>> By your logic it's apparently impossible to make assessments in
>> isolation :)
>
> it is. you cannot decide what is good or bad without a standard of some
> sort
>
>>
>>>> You *really* need to brush up on your language skills, as your
>>>> comprehension is *appalling*.
>>>
>>> you *really* need to brush up on your logic skills, as your reasoning
>>> is *appalling*.
>>
>> You're operating *way* above your competency level here pal.
>>
>>
>
> you've never had any
>
>

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(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 9/10/2023 5:45 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
> Noddy wrote:

>>>
>>> I had looked at both Hyundai and Kia websites briefly and noted none
>>> of their models were comparatively priced with the ZS which at the
>>> time was $22,990 for the 2022 model iirc
>>
>> Bullshit :)
>
> exactly as I said. I looked online, just didn't take note of the models

Then how did you know what they were priced at? :)

Don't worry about it Felix.

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Noddy.

Noddy wrote:
> On 9/10/2023 5:45 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>> Noddy wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>> I had looked at both Hyundai and Kia websites briefly and noted
>>>> none of their models were comparatively priced with the ZS which at
>>>> the time was $22,990 for the 2022 model iirc
>>>
>>> Bullshit :)
>>
>> exactly as I said. I looked online, just didn't take note of the models
>
> Then how did you know what they were priced at? :)

it tells you. see for yourself .. https://www.hyundai.com/au/en/cars

>
> Don't worry about it Felix.
>
>
>

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On 9/10/2023 10:52 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 9/10/2023 8:31 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>
>>> The one we rented recently was brand new so less than 800km when we
>>> gave it back and whilst I would say that it was economical it wasn't
>>> as good as our Golf and that averages 5.0lts/100km on mixed use.
>>
>> **In fairness, there's not much bumper-to-bumper traffic in Cairns.
>> However, I did cane the shit out of the Swift going up and down the
>> mountain. It returned VERY impressive economy.
>
> As I said the Swift is a great little car, but I can't imagine the
> "worst" economy one could return would be 4.5l/100km having the shit
> caned out of it :)
>

**I did say: "up and DOWN the mountain". The up trip would have consumed
a fair chunk of fuel and the down trip, significantly less. That said, I
showed the Swift no mercy and it simply went about it's business very
competently indeed and by using a lot less fuel than I expected it to
use. I did the same trip in the MG HS (admittedly a bigger, heavier
car), but without driving particularly hard and the fuel consumption was
around double that of the Swift. And, without the fun. Oh and the MG
demanded 95RON too. Th Swift drank whatever I happened to find at the
pump (91RON).

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On 9/10/2023 8:31 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 9/10/2023 8:20 am, Daryl wrote:
>> On 9/10/2023 8:02 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 2/10/2023 12:57 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>
>>>> what's a good new car to buy that's not too small and is user
>>>> friendly? (not MG I'm familiar with those). thanks,
>>>>
>>>
>>> **Suzuki Swift. Brilliant car. Cheap to run, fun to drive and was
>>> even able to accommodate a 6'4" friend and a bunch of luggage.
>>> Despite driving the thing pretty hard up and down the mountain from
>>> Cairns to Kuranda every day, the worst fuel consumption I could
>>> manage was 4.5L/100km. Did I mention that it was a hoot to drive? So
>>> much fun in a practical package.
>>>
>>
>> How many kms had the Swift done?
>
> **I can't recall, but I reckon at least 20,000km.
>
>> The one we rented recently was brand new so less than 800km when we
>> gave it back and whilst I would say that it was economical it wasn't
>> as good as our Golf and that averages 5.0lts/100km on mixed use.
>
> **In fairness, there's not much bumper-to-bumper traffic in Cairns.
> However, I did cane the shit out of the Swift going up and down the
> mountain. It returned VERY impressive economy.

Its possible that the one we had may improve significantly after its
done a lot more km and the engine frees up which is why I asked about
the km.

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On 9/10/2023 2:38 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
> On 8/10/2023 9:01 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 8/10/2023 8:38 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>> On 8/10/2023 5:19 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>> On 8/10/2023 4:29 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>> On 8/10/2023 4:09 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>> Daryl wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep and its not getting any better.
>>>>>>> A couple of days ago there was an article in the news about the
>>>>>>> road toll increasing and they can't seem to figure out why, FFS
>>>>>>> all they need to do is go for a drive anywhere to find out why,
>>>>>>> the standard of driving of a lot of people is appalling.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> how often these days do we see a truck hit one of Melbs low
>>>>>> bridges? rarely happened many decades ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know where you've been hiding, but it's been happening for
>>>>> as long as there have been morons driving trucks with loads higher
>>>>> than the bridges they try to get under.
>>>>>
>>>>> The only real difference today is the reporting of it.
>>>>>
>>>> Exactly, when I was a courier from the mid 80's to the early 90s our
>>>> depot was near the Montague St bridge and some one hit that bridge
>>>> at least once a month, I've even witnessed it being hit a couple of
>>>> times.
>>>
>>> It's been famous for it for decades.
>>>
>>>> Funniest one I saw was when a small furniture van hit the bridge,
>>>> the funny part was that there was a car tailgating the truck and the
>>>> truck stopped in a very short distance after the impact and the car
>>>> slammed into the back of the truck, no one was injured but there was
>>>> a lot of damage to both vehicles, both drivers were idiots, (one for
>>>> ignoring the numerous warning signs and the other for tailgating) so
>>>> I don't have any sympathy for either of them.
>>>
>>> I wouldn't either :)
>>>
>>>> Another time even earlier we loaded a forklift onto the back of a
>>>> flat bed truck, we warned the driver to not use Montague St but half
>>>> an hour later he came back with a damaged forklift and a damaged
>>>> truck after hitting the very same bridge we warned him about.
>>>
>>> For fuck's sake :)
>>>
>>> There's a few famous ones around that have claimed a few scalps over
>>> the years. Lloyd Street Kensington was a trap for young players, and
>>> I've seen a few morons get stuck under the low sides of Dudley Street
>>> bridge in West Melbourne.
>>>
>>> People are stupid.
>>>
>>>
>> Certainly are.
>> Back when I used to drive the 5 tonne Isuzu delivering to Toyota I had
>> some time off when Toyota were shut down so I dropped the truck off at
>> our company workshop in Richmond to be serviced.
>> When I was supposed to go back to work my boss called me and said my
>> truck was damaged so I had to use a different truck, apparently the
>> workshop manager decided to take my truck for a test drive after it
>> was serviced, he stopped for a low bridge, got out of the truck and
>> had a look deciding that the truck would fit under the bridge then
>> drove off smashing straight into the bridge which was about a foot
>> lower than the truck.
>> I've also gotten into arguments with customers complaining why a job
>> took longer than the expected, the dumb pricks couldn't get it through
>> their heads that a 4.3mt high truck wouldn't fit under certain low
>> bridges so I had to take the long way around.
>
> There, at least used to be a truckers edition of the Sydney street
> directory marking all the low bridges, and showing safe routes. I'd have
> thought that these day there would be truckers GPS units doing the same
> thing with an alarm if you were approaching one.

Pretty sure that there is such a GPS but trouble is only the smart
operators would use one and the dumb ones will continue to be dumb.

>
> The favourite Sydney trick was to take a high vehicle through the
> harbour tunnel despite the warning lights and signs.
>
LOL, sounds a bit naughty.
Max height through the tunnels in Melb is 4.6mtrs, I've towed a trailer
that height through the tunnels and the first time I was rather nervous.

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On 9/10/2023 3:10 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
> On Monday, 9 October 2023 at 14:38:18 UTC+11, Keithr0 wrote:
>> On 8/10/2023 9:01 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>> On 8/10/2023 8:38 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>> On 8/10/2023 5:19 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>>> On 8/10/2023 4:29 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/10/2023 4:09 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>> Daryl wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yep and its not getting any better.
>>>>>>>> A couple of days ago there was an article in the news about the
>>>>>>>> road toll increasing and they can't seem to figure out why, FFS
>>>>>>>> all they need to do is go for a drive anywhere to find out why,
>>>>>>>> the standard of driving of a lot of people is appalling.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> how often these days do we see a truck hit one of Melbs low
>>>>>>> bridges? rarely happened many decades ago.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know where you've been hiding, but it's been happening for
>>>>>> as long as there have been morons driving trucks with loads higher
>>>>>> than the bridges they try to get under.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The only real difference today is the reporting of it.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Exactly, when I was a courier from the mid 80's to the early 90s our
>>>>> depot was near the Montague St bridge and some one hit that bridge at
>>>>> least once a month, I've even witnessed it being hit a couple of times.
>>>>
>>>> It's been famous for it for decades.
>>>>
>>>>> Funniest one I saw was when a small furniture van hit the bridge, the
>>>>> funny part was that there was a car tailgating the truck and the
>>>>> truck stopped in a very short distance after the impact and the car
>>>>> slammed into the back of the truck, no one was injured but there was
>>>>> a lot of damage to both vehicles, both drivers were idiots, (one for
>>>>> ignoring the numerous warning signs and the other for tailgating) so
>>>>> I don't have any sympathy for either of them.
>>>>
>>>> I wouldn't either :)
>>>>
>>>>> Another time even earlier we loaded a forklift onto the back of a
>>>>> flat bed truck, we warned the driver to not use Montague St but half
>>>>> an hour later he came back with a damaged forklift and a damaged
>>>>> truck after hitting the very same bridge we warned him about.
>>>>
>>>> For fuck's sake :)
>>>>
>>>> There's a few famous ones around that have claimed a few scalps over
>>>> the years. Lloyd Street Kensington was a trap for young players, and
>>>> I've seen a few morons get stuck under the low sides of Dudley Street
>>>> bridge in West Melbourne.
>>>>
>>>> People are stupid.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Certainly are.
>>> Back when I used to drive the 5 tonne Isuzu delivering to Toyota I had
>>> some time off when Toyota were shut down so I dropped the truck off at
>>> our company workshop in Richmond to be serviced.
>>> When I was supposed to go back to work my boss called me and said my
>>> truck was damaged so I had to use a different truck, apparently the
>>> workshop manager decided to take my truck for a test drive after it was
>>> serviced, he stopped for a low bridge, got out of the truck and had a
>>> look deciding that the truck would fit under the bridge then drove off
>>> smashing straight into the bridge which was about a foot lower than the
>>> truck.
>>> I've also gotten into arguments with customers complaining why a job
>>> took longer than the expected, the dumb pricks couldn't get it through
>>> their heads that a 4.3mt high truck wouldn't fit under certain low
>>> bridges so I had to take the long way around.
>> There, at least used to be a truckers edition of the Sydney street
>> directory marking all the low bridges, and showing safe routes. I'd have
>> thought that these day there would be truckers GPS units doing the same
>> thing with an alarm if you were approaching one.
>>
>> The favourite Sydney trick was to take a high vehicle through the
>> harbour tunnel despite the warning lights and signs.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> For some strange reason, the drovers that manage that sort of thing, (and capable of driving a tri-axle trailer setup with flat tyres, and buckled rims), wear turbans and (usually) have limited english.

LOL.

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Noddy wrote:
> On 9/10/2023 12:39 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:

>
> As I said I would be genuinely surprised if you, or whomever you're
> looking for, didn't think it was a great little car. Very solid, very
> good build quality, and very reliable. I've helped a couple of people
> buy one and they've been delighted with them.

Sure you did Fraudster.
Got any proof?

alvey

Noddy wrote:
> On 9/10/2023 2:00 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>> Noddy wrote:
>
>>> For a bloke who recently looked at cars with the idea of buying a new
>>> one for himself, I find your lack of awareness of the various makes
>>> and models in your price range to be somewhat staggering :)
>>
>> none of the ones we've been discussing are anything like the ZS numbnuts
>
> Lol :)
>
> The Kia Stonic and Hyundai Venue both compete directly against the ZS,
> and it was only a few short days ago that you claimed you weren't aware
> of either of them. This was *after* you'd made your purchase, which
> suggests to me that your "awareness" is extremely limited :)
>
>
>>> As I said I would be genuinely surprised if you, or whomever you're
>>> looking for, didn't think it was a great little car. Very solid, very
>>> good build quality,
>>
>> Really? So what objective "quality" tests have you carried out, and on
>> what makes and models have you run those tests in order to reach your
>> conclusions?
>
> Two things here Felix.
>
> Firstly, I guarantee you as sure as I'm sitting here that I've spent a
> hell of a lot more time in a hell of a lot more cars than you have,

That may well be so, however I doubt *very* much that you've sat in the
number that you claim.

A few simple reasons for my serious doubts (Recent times only);

1. You've been living in Bumhole (Vic), pop. bugger all for a dozen years.
2. Where do these people come from?
You have no friends and you have no real business.
3. There's this new thing called 'the internet'. Ppl do their own
research on it.
4. You've repeatedly claimed that you don't read car magazines.

And there was one other thing... Oh yes!
5. You are a proven, congenital liar.

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alvey

Noddy wrote:
> On 9/10/2023 3:59 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>> Noddy wrote:
>
>>>> none of the ones we've been discussing are anything like the ZS
>>>> numbnuts
>>>
>>> Lol :)
>>>
>>> The Kia Stonic and Hyundai Venue both compete directly against the ZS,
>>
>> I had looked at both Hyundai and Kia websites briefly and noted none
>> of their models were comparatively priced with the ZS which at the
>> time was $22,990 for the 2022 model iirc
>
> Bullshit :)
>
> You stated in earlier posts that you didn't even know these models
> existed before you bought your car, not that you were aware of them and
> they were out of your price range. But even if you *had* been aware the
> price difference between the base model ZS and the Stonic is a thousand
> bucks.
>
> For the extra grand, I know which one I would prefer.
>
>>>> Really? So what objective "quality" tests have you carried out, and
>>>> on what makes and models have you run those tests in order to reach
>>>> your conclusions?
>>>
>>> Two things here Felix.
>>
>> yes boss, I'm all ears..
>
> I don't think you are Felix,  and that's your problem. You're all too
> keen to listen to the people who do nothing but piss in your pocket.
>
>>> Secondly, I'm not making claims like "The quality is as good as
>>> anything else", which is an utterly ridiculous statement to make when
>>> you *clearly* have no experience with everything else. All *I* said
>>> was that the build quality was good, and made no reference how it
>>> compares to anything else one way or the other.
>>
>> by claiming the build quality is good, the reader can rightly assume
>> you are comparing it to other cars. it's implied in your claim.
>
> Fucking rubbish. It means no such nonsense at all. The only thing being
> "implied" here is your inability comprehend what's being said to you.
>
>> or else by what measure are you determining the build quality to make
>> any judgment about it? the build quality is good relative to the
>> Sydney Harbour Bridge maybe?
>
> There is something wrong with you if you can't look at something and
> tell if it's free of blemishes or faults, and appears to be well put
> together. You don't need to make comparisons to anything else, and I
> wasn't doing that. *You* were.
>
> By your logic it's apparently impossible to make assessments in
> isolation :)
>
>>> You *really* need to brush up on your language skills, as your
>>> comprehension is *appalling*.
>>
>> you *really* need to brush up on your logic skills, as your reasoning
>> is *appalling*.
>
> You're operating *way* above your competency level here pal.

And you're a Floundering Fraudster.

Still haven't seen the "...objective "quality" tests have you carried
out, and on what makes and models have you run those tests in order to
reach your conclusions?".

alvey

Mighty Mouse wrote:
> Noddy wrote:

>>
>> By your logic it's apparently impossible to make assessments in
>> isolation :)
>
> it is. you cannot decide what is good or bad without a standard of some
> sort

lol.
He's nailed you again Fraudster.

alvey

alvey wrote:
> Noddy wrote:
>> On 9/10/2023 2:00 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>> Noddy wrote:
>>
>>>> For a bloke who recently looked at cars with the idea of buying a
>>>> new one for himself, I find your lack of awareness of the various
>>>> makes and models in your price range to be somewhat staggering :)
>>>
>>> none of the ones we've been discussing are anything like the ZS
>>> numbnuts
>>
>> Lol :)
>>
>> The Kia Stonic and Hyundai Venue both compete directly against the
>> ZS, and it was only a few short days ago that you claimed you weren't
>> aware of either of them. This was *after* you'd made your purchase,
>> which suggests to me that your "awareness" is extremely limited :)
>>
>>
>>>> As I said I would be genuinely surprised if you, or whomever you're
>>>> looking for, didn't think it was a great little car. Very solid,
>>>> very good build quality,
>>>
>>> Really? So what objective "quality" tests have you carried out, and
>>> on what makes and models have you run those tests in order to reach
>>> your conclusions?
>>
>> Two things here Felix.
>>
>> Firstly, I guarantee you as sure as I'm sitting here that I've spent
>> a hell of a lot more time in a hell of a lot more cars than you have,
>
> That may well be so, however I doubt *very* much that you've sat in
> the number that you claim.
>
> A few simple reasons for my serious doubts (Recent times only);
>
> 1. You've been living in Bumhole (Vic), pop. bugger all for a dozen
> years.
> 2. Where do these people come from?
>    You have no friends and you have no real business.
> 3. There's this new thing called 'the internet'. Ppl do their own
> research on it.
> 4. You've repeatedly claimed that you don't read car magazines.
>
> And there was one other thing... Oh yes!
> 5. You are a proven, congenital liar.
>
> snip unread
>

LOL

>
> alvey
>
>

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