The Doctor wrote:

> In article <xn0oim72hev7a6v002@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
> > The Last Doctor wrote:
> >>
> >> The episode was “Victory of the Daleks” and the new Daleks were
> >> larger and had a deeper rear half, and all in casings in bright
> >> primary colours. (I thought of them as Power Ranger Daleks at
> >> the time. They looked plasticky and designed specifically to
> >> become a line of toys.)
> >>
> >> The idea of the deep rear “hunchback” was that this would be
> >> storage for swappable arms / weapons but the “new paradigm
> >> Daleks” got such an adverse reaction that they never returned
> >> except as background props.
> >
> > They were a terrible idea. What was Moffat thinking?!!!
> >
> > If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
>
> Well I wonder how the nation Estate feels.

They must have okayed them...

In article <xn0oimgc8f7raoc002@reader.xsnews.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>The Doctor wrote:
>
>> In article <xn0oim72hev7a6v002@news.eternal-september.org>,
>> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>> > The Last Doctor wrote:
>> >>
>> >> The episode was “Victory of the Daleks” and the new Daleks were
>> >> larger and had a deeper rear half, and all in casings in bright
>> >> primary colours. (I thought of them as Power Ranger Daleks at
>> >> the time. They looked plasticky and designed specifically to
>> >> become a line of toys.)
>> >>
>> >> The idea of the deep rear “hunchback” was that this would be
>> >> storage for swappable arms / weapons but the “new paradigm
>> >> Daleks” got such an adverse reaction that they never returned
>> >> except as background props.
>> >
>> > They were a terrible idea. What was Moffat thinking?!!!
>> >
>> > If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
>>
>> Well I wonder how the nation Estate feels.
>
>They must have okayed them...
>

Any documentation to see on that?
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Blueshirt wrote on 29/2/24 2:56 am:
> Mickmane wrote:
>> On 28.02.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>>
>>> With the 11th Doctor it was the likes of Amy and Rory that spoilt
>>> that era for me... plus the multi-coloured humpback Daleks! I did
>>> like Matt's Doctor though.
>>
>> I didn't mind Amy. What did they do that bugged you?
>
> Amy started out fine in "The Eleventh Hour", but she turned out to
> be a selfish spoilt brat who treated Rory like shit as her arc
> developed. For me, Amy & Rory out-stayed their welcome and should
> have moved on a lot sooner. (Rory especially, his dying and coming
> back to life all the time was silly.)
>
> I love Karen Gillan though, she's hot!
>
>> Daleks always had some with different colours. I don't remember
>> humpbacks. :)
>
> Look again! :-)
>
> A re-design made solely to sell toys.
>
A lot of that could also apply to Clara and her boyfriend, whatever his
name was, you know, the one that was talking to Clara on the phone when
he stepped out from the Park onto a road .... and got mowed down!!

Hey, it just struck me .... was this really a Road Safety message
planted by the 'Doctor Who' Producers/Directors/Scriptwriters to get
people to concentrate on what they're doing whilst they are on their
phones?? ;-P
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In article <urphi8$ej5f$1@dont-email.me>,
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>Blueshirt wrote on 29/2/24 2:56 am:
>> Mickmane wrote:
>>> On 28.02.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>>>
>>>> With the 11th Doctor it was the likes of Amy and Rory that spoilt
>>>> that era for me... plus the multi-coloured humpback Daleks! I did
>>>> like Matt's Doctor though.
>>>
>>> I didn't mind Amy. What did they do that bugged you?
>>
>> Amy started out fine in "The Eleventh Hour", but she turned out to
>> be a selfish spoilt brat who treated Rory like shit as her arc
>> developed. For me, Amy & Rory out-stayed their welcome and should
>> have moved on a lot sooner. (Rory especially, his dying and coming
>> back to life all the time was silly.)
>>
>> I love Karen Gillan though, she's hot!
>>
>>> Daleks always had some with different colours. I don't remember
>>> humpbacks. :)
>>
>> Look again! :-)
>>
>> A re-design made solely to sell toys.
>>
>A lot of that could also apply to Clara and her boyfriend, whatever his
>name was, you know, the one that was talking to Clara on the phone when
>he stepped out from the Park onto a road .... and got mowed down!!
>

DAnny Pink.

>Hey, it just struck me .... was this really a Road Safety message
>planted by the 'Doctor Who' Producers/Directors/Scriptwriters to get
>people to concentrate on what they're doing whilst they are on their
>phones?? ;-P

Yes! Be careful and not be distracted.
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The Doctor wrote:

> In article <xn0oimgc8f7raoc002@reader.xsnews.nl>,
> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
> > The Doctor wrote:
> >> In article <xn0oim72hev7a6v002@news.eternal-september.org>,
> >> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
> >> > The Last Doctor wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> The episode was “Victory of the Daleks” and the new Daleks
> >> >> were larger and had a deeper rear half, and all in casings
> >> >> in bright primary colours. (I thought of them as Power
> >> >> Ranger Daleks at the time. They looked plasticky and
> >> >> designed specifically to become a line of toys.)
> >> >>
> >> >> The idea of the deep rear “hunchback” was that this would be
> >> >> storage for swappable arms / weapons but the “new paradigm
> >> >> Daleks” got such an adverse reaction that they never returned
> >> >> except as background props.
> >> >
> >> > They were a terrible idea. What was Moffat thinking?!!!
> >> >
> >> > If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
> >>
> >> Well I wonder how the nation Estate feels.
> >
> > They must have okayed them...
>
> Any documentation to see on that?

I'm sure there is somewhere, in offices. It's not going to be posted
on Usenet though is it?

But as the BBC only own 50% of the rights to the Daleks nothing is
going to happen unless the Hancock's agency agree to their use.
Ergo, they must have agreed to the plastic technicolour humpback
Daleks. As agents, their job is to get the most money they can
for Terry Nation's estate. So obviously, new Dalek design plus new
Dalek toys = £££.

In article <xn0oinkf8g8vwmv007@news.eternal-september.org>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>The Doctor wrote:
>
>> In article <xn0oimgc8f7raoc002@reader.xsnews.nl>,
>> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>> > The Doctor wrote:
>> >> In article <xn0oim72hev7a6v002@news.eternal-september.org>,
>> >> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>> >> > The Last Doctor wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The episode was “Victory of the Daleks” and the new Daleks
>> >> >> were larger and had a deeper rear half, and all in casings
>> >> >> in bright primary colours. (I thought of them as Power
>> >> >> Ranger Daleks at the time. They looked plasticky and
>> >> >> designed specifically to become a line of toys.)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The idea of the deep rear “hunchback” was that this would be
>> >> >> storage for swappable arms / weapons but the “new paradigm
>> >> >> Daleks” got such an adverse reaction that they never returned
>> >> >> except as background props.
>> >> >
>> >> > They were a terrible idea. What was Moffat thinking?!!!
>> >> >
>> >> > If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
>> >>
>> >> Well I wonder how the nation Estate feels.
>> >
>> > They must have okayed them...
>>
>> Any documentation to see on that?
>
>I'm sure there is somewhere, in offices. It's not going to be posted
>on Usenet though is it?
>
>But as the BBC only own 50% of the rights to the Daleks nothing is
>going to happen unless the Hancock's agency agree to their use.
>Ergo, they must have agreed to the plastic technicolour humpback
>Daleks. As agents, their job is to get the most money they can
>for Terry Nation's estate. So obviously, new Dalek design plus new
>Dalek toys = £££.

What about any e-mail proof?
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On 28.02.24, The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
> Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
>> On 28.02.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>>> Mickmane wrote:
>>>> On 27.02.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>>>>> The Doctor wrote:

>>>> I exclude the 11th Doctor. Starting with stuffing food into his
>>>> mouth and then spitting it out again, and then continuing to pull
>>>> a stupid face. That was not the Doctor!
>>
>>> Ha Ha... Matt Smith was good at the stupid face thing alright. He
>>> just has that sort of face! :-)
>>
>> Stupid face is not compatible with the Doctor!

> Patrick Troughton.

> Jon Pertwee when being physically attacked.

> Sylvester McCoy, even when trying not to look stupid, during his main
> stint as Doctor.

Nope, no stupid face that I see. Maybe you mean a different kind of
stupid face than I. :)

> It took me a while to warm to Matt Smith?s Doctor but I did
> eventually ?get? the portrayal. Still not sure I?m over the
> ?cliffhanger? in Dragonfire.

Will try to remember there was something you mentioned when I get there.
:)

>>> With the 11th Doctor it was the likes of Amy and Rory that spoilt
>>> that era for me... plus the multi-coloured humpback Daleks! I did
>>> like Matt's Doctor though.
>>
>> I didn't mind Amy. What did they do that bugged you?

> Rory?s revolving ticket to continued existence was annoying but as a
> character he was great.

Revolving ticket?

>> Daleks always had some with different colours. I don't remember
>> humpbacks. :)

> The episode was ?Victory of the Daleks? and the new Daleks were
> larger and had a deeper rear half, and all in casings in bright
> primary colours. (I thought of them as Power Ranger Daleks at the
> time. They looked plasticky and designed specifically to become a
> line of toys.)

Hm, will watch out for that. :)

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On 28.02.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
> Mickmane wrote:
>> On 28.02.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

>>> With the 11th Doctor it was the likes of Amy and Rory that spoilt
>>> that era for me... plus the multi-coloured humpback Daleks! I did
>>> like Matt's Doctor though.
>>
>> I didn't mind Amy. What did they do that bugged you?

> Amy started out fine in "The Eleventh Hour", but she turned out to
> be a selfish spoilt brat who treated Rory like shit as her arc
> developed. For me, Amy & Rory out-stayed their welcome and should
> have moved on a lot sooner. (Rory especially, his dying and coming
> back to life all the time was silly.)

Guess there was much I missed while I was trudging through that doctor's
episodes. :) I'm normally the first to complain about female characters
turning into spoiled brats. (Developed an allergy to them while reading
some fantasy series decades ago.)

Maybe he's the reason I currently have a break in rewatching, dreading
what's to come. (Had rewatched Donna's first appearance, before I turned
to have some documentary rambling on on TV while playing something on
the computer.)

Edit (was busy for a few days), am up to New New York with Martha is the
next episode by now.

>> Daleks always had some with different colours. I don't remember
>> humpbacks. :)

> Look again! :-)

> A re-design made solely to sell toys.

Will watch out for it.

Toy Daleks should look like the ones in the series! :)

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In article <GZiTg8U5czB@ATH>, Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
>On 28.02.24, The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>> Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
>>> On 28.02.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>>>> Mickmane wrote:
>>>>> On 27.02.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>>>>>> The Doctor wrote:
>
>>>>> I exclude the 11th Doctor. Starting with stuffing food into his
>>>>> mouth and then spitting it out again, and then continuing to pull
>>>>> a stupid face. That was not the Doctor!
>>>
>>>> Ha Ha... Matt Smith was good at the stupid face thing alright. He
>>>> just has that sort of face! :-)
>>>
>>> Stupid face is not compatible with the Doctor!
>
>> Patrick Troughton.
>
>> Jon Pertwee when being physically attacked.
>
>> Sylvester McCoy, even when trying not to look stupid, during his main
>> stint as Doctor.
>
>Nope, no stupid face that I see. Maybe you mean a different kind of
>stupid face than I. :)
>
>> It took me a while to warm to Matt Smith?s Doctor but I did
>> eventually ?get? the portrayal. Still not sure I?m over the
>> ?cliffhanger? in Dragonfire.
>
>Will try to remember there was something you mentioned when I get there.
>:)
>

Both are good.

>>>> With the 11th Doctor it was the likes of Amy and Rory that spoilt
>>>> that era for me... plus the multi-coloured humpback Daleks! I did
>>>> like Matt's Doctor though.
>>>
>>> I didn't mind Amy. What did they do that bugged you?
>
>> Rory?s revolving ticket to continued existence was annoying but as a
>> character he was great.
>
>Revolving ticket?
>

In and out sort of thing.

>>> Daleks always had some with different colours. I don't remember
>>> humpbacks. :)
>
>> The episode was ?Victory of the Daleks? and the new Daleks were
>> larger and had a deeper rear half, and all in casings in bright
>> primary colours. (I thought of them as Power Ranger Daleks at the
>> time. They looked plasticky and designed specifically to become a
>> line of toys.)
>
>Hm, will watch out for that. :)
>

Pleas do.

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>
>Mickmane
>

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In article <G$5Th6DqczB@ATH>, Mickmane <ATH@kruemel.org> wrote:
>On 28.02.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>> Mickmane wrote:
>>> On 28.02.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>
>>>> With the 11th Doctor it was the likes of Amy and Rory that spoilt
>>>> that era for me... plus the multi-coloured humpback Daleks! I did
>>>> like Matt's Doctor though.
>>>
>>> I didn't mind Amy. What did they do that bugged you?
>
>> Amy started out fine in "The Eleventh Hour", but she turned out to
>> be a selfish spoilt brat who treated Rory like shit as her arc
>> developed. For me, Amy & Rory out-stayed their welcome and should
>> have moved on a lot sooner. (Rory especially, his dying and coming
>> back to life all the time was silly.)
>
>Guess there was much I missed while I was trudging through that doctor's
>episodes. :) I'm normally the first to complain about female characters
>turning into spoiled brats. (Developed an allergy to them while reading
>some fantasy series decades ago.)
>
>Maybe he's the reason I currently have a break in rewatching, dreading
>what's to come. (Had rewatched Donna's first appearance, before I turned
>to have some documentary rambling on on TV while playing something on
>the computer.)
>
>Edit (was busy for a few days), am up to New New York with Martha is the
>next episode by now.
>

The good stuff

>>> Daleks always had some with different colours. I don't remember
>>> humpbacks. :)
>
>> Look again! :-)
>
>> A re-design made solely to sell toys.
>
>Will watch out for it.
>
>Toy Daleks should look like the ones in the series! :)
>

Oh?
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>

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Mickmane wrote:

> On 28.02.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
> > Mickmane wrote:
>
> >> Daleks always had some with different colours. I don't
> >> remember humpbacks. :)
>
> > Look again! :-)
> >
> > A re-design made solely to sell toys.
>
> Will watch out for it.
>
> Toy Daleks should look like the ones in the series! :)

The ones that were based on the plastic looking colour-coded
humpback Daleks seen in "Victory of the Daleks" did...

They were coloured plastic humpback toy Daleks!

In article <xn0oiumxkmfna2000@news.eternal-september.org>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>Mickmane wrote:
>
>> On 28.02.24, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>> > Mickmane wrote:
>>
>> >> Daleks always had some with different colours. I don't
>> >> remember humpbacks. :)
>>
>> > Look again! :-)
>> >
>> > A re-design made solely to sell toys.
>>
>> Will watch out for it.
>>
>> Toy Daleks should look like the ones in the series! :)
>
>The ones that were based on the plastic looking colour-coded
>humpback Daleks seen in "Victory of the Daleks" did...
>
>They were coloured plastic humpback toy Daleks!

Something you did not like I guess.
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