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* MT VOID, 04/12/24 -- Vol. 42, No. 41, Whole Number 2323Evelyn C. Leeper
+* Re: MT VOID, 04/12/24 -- Vol. 42, No. 41, Whole Number 2323Gary McGath
|`* Re: MT VOID, 04/12/24 -- Vol. 42, No. 41, Whole Number 2323Scott Dorsey
| `- Re: MT VOID, 04/12/24 -- Vol. 42, No. 41, Whole Number 2323Keith F. Lynch
`- Re: MT VOID, 04/12/24 -- Vol. 42, No. 41, Whole Number 2323Cryptoengineer

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 by: Evelyn C. Leeper - Sun, 14 Apr 2024 13:48 UTC

THE MT VOID
04/12/24 -- Vol. 42, No. 41, Whole Number 2323

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Topics:
Supermarkets (comments by Evelyn C. Leeper)
All Eclipses in an Hour (comments by Evelyn C. Leeper)
How to Shop in Used-Book Stores: 14 Tips from a Bibliophile
This Week's Reading (JAMES)
(book comments by Evelyn C. Leeper)

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TOPIC: Supermarkets (comments by Evelyn C. Leeper)

Evelyn here, returning to the old tradition of the MT VOID leading
with an editorial (rather than an endless stream of movie
reviews). But I hope you're not expecting something deep and
philosophical. No, my comments are about my local supermarket
(and its suppliers).

My first comment--okay, complaint--is the whole system of
discounts. An item has a regular price. Sometimes it has a sale
price. So far, so good. But then there are *better* sale prices
if you have an affinity card. The supermarket sends a circular in
the mail on Fridays. It often has coupons for additional
discounts. Sometimes these coupons can instead be loaded onto
your affinity card using their app--but not until Sunday, by which
point you have forgotten them. But sometimes they are not
digital, and must be clipped and handed in. There are also
digital discounts which have no coupons, but have a "digital
coupon" notation on the item in the circular. (Finding them and
loading them is also a problem; the "free matzo" digital coupon
could not be found by searching on "matzo", "matzoh", or "Yehuda"
[one of the brands included]. It was listed only as "Osem"
[another brand].)

But when you get to the store, there is *another* flyer at the
entrance, with another dozen or so "super-coupons" which have not
appeared in the circular. These are fairly small, but if you want
to use some of them, you somehow have to tear them out of the
sheet.

But now come the pitfalls. Some coupons require you buy two, or
three, or some other multiple of the item. Some have limits in
how many you can buy. Some are for specific sizes--and not all of
that brand qualify (e.g., only certain sizes of a given brand of
potato chips). Most are good all week, but some are good for only
two or three days. Some require you spend a certain minimum. And
all of this information requires a magnifying glass to read (the
section with the minimum purchase info is 5 lines of print in a
space 3/8" high).

And now I'll complain about the Passover food. The big complaint
this year is not aimed at the store, but the matzo manufacturers.
For years ... decades, even ... Passover matzo came in five-packs
of one-pound boxes. No more--they're now four-packs. (There are
a few hold-outs: Osem and Streit's, I think.)

To get a free pack, it used to require spending $25, then $50, and
now $75.

The free holiday entree (Easter ham or turkey, kosher chicken,
etc.) now requires $400 of purchases in the four weeks preceding
Easter, which is normally the four weeks preceding Passover. Not
this year. So if you want the kosher chicken, you have to spend
$400 even before they have put out the Passover food (which
definitely boosted your spending). The one bright point is they
will let people redeem their points for the kosher chicken until
Passover, even though the usual deadline is Easter.

(This part is not the supermarket's fault; blame Pope Gregory
XIII.)

[-ecl]

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TOPIC: All Eclipses in an Hour (comments by Evelyn C. Leeper)

In our part of New Jersey, Eclipse Day dawned bright and sunny.
Right about the time the eclipse was due to start, clouds drifted
in and covered the sun such that at maximum eclipse, no shadows
were being cast (so I'm pretty sure the sun wasn't even visible).
After the eclipse ended, the clouds went away and it was sunny
again.

ObSF: "All Summer in a Day" by Ray Bradbury

[-ecl]

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TOPIC: How to Shop in Used-Book Stores: 14 Tips from a Bibliophile

Michael Dirda gives us advice on shopping in used bookstores
(non-paywalled URL):

<https://wapo.st/4cOWLoH>

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TOPIC: This Week's Reading (book comments by Evelyn C. Leeper)

There seems to be a recent increase in "Rashomon"-type books. By
that I mean books that tell the story told in a famous work from a
different point of view. You might think of Tom Stoppard's
ROSENCRANTZ AND GUILDENSTERN ARE DEAD (1966) as an early example,
but this is actually pre-dated by nearly a century by W. S.
Gilbert's comedy ROSENCRANTZ AND GUILDENSTERN (1874).

(I am not talking about the stories of side characters, such as
stories featuring Mycroft Holmes or Mrs. Hudson, or prequels or
sequels such as WIDE SARGASSO SEA by Jean Rhys, or even alternate
histories such as THE EYRE AFFAIR by Jasper Fforde.)

We also had GRENDEL by John Gardner (1971), WICKED (1995) (and its
sequels), and various works based on fairy tales, by Gregory
Maguire.

The genre got a big boost from Alice Randall's THE WIND DONE GONE
(2001), with the attendant publicity it received from a lawsuit by
Margaret Mitchell's estate. (The lawsuit was eventually dropped.)

Erring on the side of caution, Sandra Newman got authorization
from George Orwell's estate for JULIA (an alternate 1984). But
most authors have stuck to works in the public domain as their
inspiration. So we have seen LONGBOURN by Jo Baker and THE OTHER
BENNET SISTER by Janice Hadlow (alternate tellings of PRIDE AND
PREJUDICE). Nghi Vo waited until the year that THE GREAT GATSBY
came into public domain before publishing THE CHOSEN AND THE
BEAUTIFUL (2021). And now we have JAMES by Percival Everett (an
alternate HUCKLEBERRY FINN).

JAMES starts out with telling the same story as Mark Twain from
Jim's point of view, and we quickly learn that Jim is not how he
is depicted in Twain's book. He is literate, articulate, and most
definitely not satisified with his enslavement. (How he became
literate is not clear; he is apparently self-taught, as unlikely
as that seems.) As for articulate, it turns out that Jim (or
James, as he prefers) is bilingual: he speaks "slave" and also
standard English. Actually, most slaves are bilingual in this
way. So Twain's having Jim speak "slave" reflects the fact that
"slave" would be all that Twain ever heard slaves speak.

JAMES then has a long section in which he is separated from Huck
(as also happens in Twain's version), and this gives Everett a
chance to show more of the conditions of slavery and the South
than Twain could--or wanted to--show. (If Twain is "Gone with the
Wind", then Everett is "12 Years a Slave".)

[SLIGHT SPOILER] JAMES does eventually become an alternate
HUCKLEBERRY FINN, as the events towards the end of the book
diverge from Twain's telling. For starters, the story runs into
the Civil War, while Twain stays about a decade earlier.
James/Jim's story also takes a different, more realistic, turn, as
he increasingly becomes the "master of [his own] fate," to borrow
a phrase from William Ernest Henley. (It also has a somewhat
unrealistic plot twist, which is apparently there to serve an
underlying message.)

[If anyone has an "official" name for such novels, please let me
know.]

[-ecl]

===================================================================

Mark Leeper
mleeper@optonline.net

The fundamental laws necessary for the mathematical
treatment of a large part of physics and the whole of
chemistry are thus completely known, and the difficulty
lies only in the fact that application of these laws
leads to equations that are too complex to be solved.
--Paul Dirac

Re: MT VOID, 04/12/24 -- Vol. 42, No. 41, Whole Number 2323

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 by: Gary McGath - Sun, 14 Apr 2024 14:29 UTC

On 4/14/24 9:48 AM, Evelyn C. Leeper wrote:
>
> The free holiday entree (Easter ham or turkey, kosher chicken,
> etc.) now requires $400 of purchases in the four weeks preceding
> Easter, which is normally the four weeks preceding Passover.  Not
> this year.  So if you want the kosher chicken, you have to spend
> $400 even before they have put out the Passover food (which
> definitely boosted your spending).  The one bright point is they
> will let people redeem their points for the kosher chicken until
> Passover, even though the usual deadline is Easter.
>
> (This part is not the supermarket's fault; blame Pope Gregory
> XIII.)

The Greek Orthodox church has an extra rule that Easter must come after
Passover.

--
Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com

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 by: Scott Dorsey - Sun, 14 Apr 2024 16:28 UTC

In article <uvgp7l$3m52c$2@dont-email.me>,
Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:
>On 4/14/24 9:48 AM, Evelyn C. Leeper wrote:
>>
>> The free holiday entree (Easter ham or turkey, kosher chicken,
>> etc.) now requires $400 of purchases in the four weeks preceding
>> Easter, which is normally the four weeks preceding Passover.  Not
>> this year.  So if you want the kosher chicken, you have to spend
>> $400 even before they have put out the Passover food (which
>> definitely boosted your spending).  The one bright point is they
>> will let people redeem their points for the kosher chicken until
>> Passover, even though the usual deadline is Easter.
>>
>> (This part is not the supermarket's fault; blame Pope Gregory
>> XIII.)
>
>The Greek Orthodox church has an extra rule that Easter must come after
>Passover.

What if I want both options so I can cook the kosher chicken with the
easter ham inside?
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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Subject: Re: MT VOID, 04/12/24 -- Vol. 42, No. 41, Whole Number 2323
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 by: Keith F. Lynch - Sun, 14 Apr 2024 17:32 UTC

Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
> Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:
>> The Greek Orthodox church has an extra rule that Easter must come
>> after Passover.

> What if I want both options so I can cook the kosher chicken with
> the easter ham inside?

Sorry, but that isn't halal. Especially not during Ramadan.
--
Keith F. Lynch - http://keithlynch.net/
Please see http://keithlynch.net/email.html before emailing me.

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 by: Cryptoengineer - Wed, 24 Apr 2024 03:00 UTC

Evelyn C. Leeper <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> There seems to be a recent increase in "Rashomon"-type books. By
> that I mean books that tell the story told in a famous work from a
> different point of view.

Niven's (with Fred Lerner) Rashomons most of his own Known
Space stories in the '...of Worlds' books.

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